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I would caution you to be very careful with the insulin at this point. Just because she had a reading in the 400s doesn’t mean she needs an increase in dose just yet. That was a catastrophic hypo situation, and depending on how often you were testing before and whether you were adjusting dose according to a slow and methodical protocol, it’s possible that she was being overdosed for quite some time and her body’s compensatory defenses were overwhelmed. I’m not saying that happened, but without comprehensive data, it’s possible. We’ve seen it before.

What insulin are you using? What is the strength? What syringes are you using? Photos are great if you can post them (copy/paste into the message if you can because the upload function is broken). I believe I saw reference to Lantus (100 mg/ml is typical strength) but it’s worth verifying. In some countries, we’ve seen vets prescribe insulins that are harsh and not really appropriate for cats as well as syringes that aren’t ideal for drawing small doses.

It’s important to have a clear understanding of what insulin you’re using as well as the syringe type in order to understand what “one line” means as far as units of insulin. Also, different insulins have different “action” and that matters too. You’re working with a very delicate situation so details really matter right now. And the more BG values you can collect over the next few days, the better it will help paint the picture of what’s happening.

Again, please be very, very careful about increasing the dose just yet. Especially if she’s on Lantus, you’ll want to allow time for the depot to fill. You absolutely don’t want to find yourself in another hypo situation. I doubt she’d have the strength to survive it.

It sounds positive that you’re seeing little improvements. Recovery takes a very long time, and we just don’t know what’s possible if we don’t try. She’s obviously wrung out from the experience but it doesn’t sound like she’s suffering, so if she continues to be stable, and if you have the time and resources to see how this plays out, I don’t think it’s wrong. You can always make the decision to let her go if things start going the wrong direction.

We had a cat on the board many years ago who was massively overdosed (30x normal dose) by a worker at a vet clinic. Toonces seized for hours while no one was around and nearly died. He recovered up to a point but did have permanent injuries as a result. I don’t think Stefani comes around much these days (Toonces passed away approx 15 years ago) but she moved heaven and earth to help Toonces and she might be able to provide insight into what the recovery looked like and how long things took to happen. @Stefani Olsen

Best wishes. I’m pulling for you.

sassy has been diabetic almost 9 years. 6 years she was tight regiment, with regular check in with de Pierson. She is 12/12 dosage with 0.5 needle and lantus 100 (bottle). Last few years still 12/12 but just normal. Always check number and adjust before giving dose. Her range over the years was 1.5-3.25 lines. Never more.

The doctors gave her 1.0 2 days ago (but 1 x in 24 hour). Her numbers were 112 (she wasn’t eating at this time). Yesterday with the kitten food (1st day of eating since hypo….her numbers were 400/500 with a low at +6 of 330). I will give the shot again in the next 3 hours. Yesterday’s dose was 1.5 see below).
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Can you ask about a feeding tube or can’t they do that there?
Wonderful she peed on her own. I think she just needs time……when a human has a brain injury …which is what has happened to Sassy with those seizures……it can take quite a while for things to settle down.
The kitten food should be fine. It’s just a bit higher in fat than ordinary cat food.
You could ask the vets if they have any Hills a/d canned food which is a recovery food which can be syringed
Love the photo of you and Sassy,
 
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Thank you for the updates. She is such a beautiful girl and needs lots of time and patience. I know you give her your all, you look so tired, understandably. I pray she recovers with minimal brain damage. She’s been through a lot. You both have. She peed, what a victory. We will all be thinking of and praying for both you snd Sassy. Reach out if you need help, 911 if you have an emergency or take her back to the hospital if needed. Take good care of yourself. I know you will take good care of Sassy ❤️:bighug:
 
Can you ask about a feeding tube or can’t they do that there?
Wonderful she peed on her own. I think she just needs time……when a human has a brain injury …which is what has happened to Sassy with those seizures……it can take quite a while for things to settle down.
The kitten food should be fine. It’s just a bit higher in fat than ordinary cat food.
You could ask the vets if they have any Hills a/d canned food which is a recovery food which can be syringed
Love the photo of you and Sassy,
They said they were out of the recovery food
 
I am so happy to hear this news! Like Jodey said, Sassy seems to be a fighter. Wants to live. I'm so glad you are giving her the chance. You are really doing a wonderful job - pulling out all the stops to help your kitty. God bless you. I wish I knew your first name. I would like to properly pray for your Sassy and for you.
 
Are you still considering taking Sassy to Bangkok? It seems like the intermittent veterinary care she is getting is not perhaps enough for what she needs right now. That is NOT to say that you are not doing a good job under very difficult circumstances - because you are so dedicated to Sassy and you are truly inspiring!
 
Are you still considering taking Sassy to Bangkok? It seems like the intermittent veterinary care she is getting is not perhaps enough for what she needs right now. That is NOT to say that you are not doing a good job under very difficult circumstances - because you are so dedicated to Sassy and you are truly inspiring!
Yes I am thinking about going to Bangkok. Just because then I know for sure if there is anything we can do or if it brain damage too much. But it is a 12 hour journey. 3 hours on a boat and 9 hours driving. But I am not sure if I have the heart to put her to sleep without this information. Because now she has no change in 4 days....still cannot move any part of her body...just a little head and her tail sometimes. And she blinks. It turns out the hand/foot movement i thought was her trying to move was mini seizures.
 
You've had such a difficult journey in these past days. It is touching to read the love an care you pour into Sassy. It is devastating to read all you've had to go through. No matter what happens you have done such a good job fighting for her. It sounds so hard. I'm sorry.
 
Yes I am thinking about going to Bangkok. Just because then I know for sure if there is anything we can do or if it brain damage too much. But it is a 12 hour journey. 3 hours on a boat and 9 hours driving. But I am not sure if I have the heart to put her to sleep without this information. Because now she has no change in 4 days....still cannot move any part of her body...just a little head and her tail sometimes. And she blinks. It turns out the hand/foot movement i thought was her trying to move was mini seizures.

Hi Cassie @ThailandKitty
I've just been reading your thread and my heart goes out to you and Sassy, what a heck of a ride you've had and i pray she recovers.
If you are thinking of going to Bangkok have you considered a boat to Samui and a flight to Bangkok, probably more expensive but it would cut your time in half, just a thought.
 
I have an appointment tomorrow with a Neurological specialist in bangkok on the phone. So hopefully he can give me the answers I need.
Also found the ketones stripes! But now she isnt peeing....lol
Hi Cassie, reading your updates. I’m so sorry there is no real change yet for Sassy. You have lots of prayers being sent to both of you. Miracles do happen. I hope the Neurologist is able to give you some answers. You have given Sassy your heart and all of your energy in the hope that there is still HOPE for her. If you have to let her go, always know you gave her everything and did everything you could possibly do to help her heal. You are such a special mom and Sassy knows it as we all do. Sending prayers for you both. :bighug::bighug:
 
Hi Cassie @ThailandKitty
I've just been reading your thread and my heart goes out to you and Sassy, what a heck of a ride you've had and i pray she recovers.
If you are thinking of going to Bangkok have you considered a boat to Samui and a flight to Bangkok, probably more expensive but it would cut your time in half, just a thought.
Yes Bangkok Airways...doesnt allow pets on the plane. Just below in cargo. And they did have a no pets rule at all until end of Oct 2021...but havent checked since then. Guess I couldn try
 
Yes I am thinking about going to Bangkok. Just because then I know for sure if there is anything we can do or if it brain damage too much. But it is a 12 hour journey. 3 hours on a boat and 9 hours driving. But I am not sure if I have the heart to put her to sleep without this information. Because now she has no change in 4 days....still cannot move any part of her body...just a little head and her tail sometimes. And she blinks. It turns out the hand/foot movement i thought was her trying to move was mini seizures.
Oh dear, Cassie. My heart really goes out to you and Sassy. I am going to go to sleep now, but before I do, I am going to pray for Cassie. Lots of love to you both! ❤️
 
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