10/26 Bama Kitty AMPS 222 + 2 240 +3.5 293 +7 321; PMPS 371 +2 389

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Bama Kitty Mom (GA)

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Last night: 10/25 Bama Kitty PMPS 171 +1 177 +2 142 +3 117 +4 118 +5 128 +6 147 +8 137 +10.25 205

In the overnight hours, PM+8, Bama ate some kibble and I took a reading @ +10.25 which showed him starting to rise. AMPS he did not take his customary dip but rose a little more to 222. I fed LC FF + Dr. Elsey's salmon kibble and he ate well. I need to study more about using food on the upswings to control the bounce which I believe @Wendy&Neko addressed in a recent post to someone else's condo.
 
I’m glad Bama is eating. I hope he will not rise too high and that he will come back down today. I’m not accustomed to hearing about feeding on the upswing of a bounce…. only feeding to keep them surfing or, of course, to keep them from dropping too low/bring up the BG. I hope you find the post so we can all read it! :)
 
Summer and Susie (GA) said:
I agree with Carla. You don't want to feed h/c when his numbers are rising.

What an incredible day you had yesterday. Congrats, Gina. You handled it very well!
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Hard to remember what I fed in the sleepless haze of last night but I think I only fed HC from +3 to + 4.5 when he was basically steady at 118 to 122. And it may have actually been a high medium @ 19. I am not clear on the cutoff point. Anyway he got Dr. Elsey’s Salmon kibble @ +8. Although dry, still considered LC.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
I’m glad Bama is eating. I hope he will not rise too high and that he will come back down today. I’m not accustomed to hearing about feeding on the upswing of a bounce…. only feeding to keep them surfing or, of course, to keep them from dropping too low/bring up the BG. I hope you find the post so we can all read it! :)
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Best I recall, she may have pointed someone to a sticky and I stumbled into it from there. The gist of the info was to feed 8 mini-meals— PS, +1, +2, +3– to control the BG early in the cycle. Some discussion on carb sensitive kitties, bouncers. Believe the condo was this:
8/10 TASHIE pmps=HIGH! +Questions***
Discussion in 'Lantus / Basaglar (glargine) and Levemir (detemir)' started by BorisV, Aug 10, 2013.

Although that said, I don't think Wendy even posted on that one.
 
carfurby said:
Nice numbers last night. I hope Bama Kitty comes back down today. I think if you feed HC once the numbers start going up it contributes to higher numbers. It's a balancing act.
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@carfurby
Thanks, Carla, that is important to keep in mind for future reference and I need to pin down what is HC and what is MC. I can't remember the cutoff points. I use the online calculator at scheyderweb.com to determine dry matter carbs for foods not found in the list at catinfo.org and I need to review the list to find the actual names of the FF HC [22 or more carbs] before I shop this week so I will be prepared for below 50 numbers if and when they arise. I appreciate that you visit my condo each day and offer encouragement, especially important for those cycles when you feel like you are just shuffling through. :bighug:
 
Bama Kitty Mom said:
Good-bye to the blues for now and soon to be so long to the yellows. We’ll be back!
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That is the spirit! Someone sent me the carb list. They said low carb is generally considered under 10%. Medium carb is 11% to 17%. 18% and higher is high carb. I wonder where that leaves 10%.

The FF Medleys Tuscanys are all high carb (20%-23%). I always used the FF Gravy Lovers Gourmet Beef Feast in Gravy as my high carb. It is 20%. Definitely check out the Cat Food Nutritional Composition list for additional carb percentages.
 
Bama Kitty Mom said:
I need to study more about using food on the upswings to control the bounce which I believe @Wendy&Neko addressed in a recent post to someone else's condo.
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The answer is to NOT feed once he's past nadir. You aren't feeding to control the bounce, but rather to prevent shortening duration. After nadir, the insulin effect has started to fade. If you add carbs after nadir, you are making it fade away even faster, resulting in higher preshots. So as long as he's on his way up, either remove the food or if you have to feed due to "starving kitty syndrome", find something really low or preferably zero carb.

As for LC, MC, HC definitions, check out our The Official Lantus, Basaglar, & Levemir ISG Slang Dictionary You will see that LC includes 10%, HC is 16% and above and MC everything in between. However, cats do differ on how carb sensitive they are, so you do have to experiment to see what food gives you the bump you need, at a particular time in the cycle. Higher carbs might be needed earlier in the cycle when the insulin is stronger, less carbs later.

The other discussion you were referring to, to prevent steep drops, is Using Food to Manipulate the Curve
 
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