10/15 JILL AMPS 198 / +2.5 115 / +4 72 / PMPS 52, 51 / + 1.25 60 / +4 75

I don't know what has happened! She's never been this low pre-shot before. Now I feel terrible that I didn't test her more this afternoon, but I never expected she would drop lower than she was at +4. Who knows how much lower she dropped without me knowing. I think she hates this dose - I do - it's making everything totally unpredictable.

What do I do? She's having a mc snack now but I can't shoot, right? I definitely don't feel comfortable shooting and I can't move my shot times around too much this weekend because on Sunday we have to be gone for most of the day.

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Should I have not fed her? Now I feel like I should have waited 15-20 mins and tested again but I also think I remember a time when she was dropping because I didn't feed her at pre-shot. I think that was on 8/10. I suck at this.
 
The first time this happened to me, I auto fed too, you don’t suck!
I’m trying to remember what Bhooma told me when I got 51 as well. Let me look up that thread. I think as long as can monitor you can shoot.
 
smorgasbord said:
The first time this happened to me, I auto fed too, you don’t suck!
I’m trying to remember what Bhooma told me when I got 51 as well. Let me look up that thread. I think as long as can monitor you can shoot.
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I can monitor but her nadir tends to be so early in the cycle. Thanks for responding btw :)
 
smorgasbord said:
Ok, what I’m remembering is don’t shoot if you fed HC, bc then you have to wait for it to wear off.
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/8-13-templeton-pmbg-45-5-79-1-51-2-45-2-5-72-3-5-96.251347/
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I think we are just skipping tonight. I was going to move her shot back a little this weekend anyway so I’ll start earlier tomorrow morning and — should I reduce the dose? I bet she went under 50 sometime this afternoon but who knows for sure. I was so hopeful, things were looking good early this afternoon.
 
Hey, if you don’t feel comfortable shooting this low, don’t do it!

Added bonus of moving it back an hour, vs being an hour late. I think you don’t reduce. I was told recently it’s based on numbers we see. And we didn’t see a lime.
 
I should be around most of the day tomorrow so I can test more often. Every time i think I’m going to do a curve Jill does something unexpected. Does doing a curve when you know something unusual is happening make sense or does it not matter because she’s still kind of all over the place?
 
Debra and Jill (the cat) said:
I should be around most of the day tomorrow so I can test more often. Every time i think I’m going to do a curve Jill does something unexpected. Does doing a curve when you know something unusual is happening make sense or does it not matter because she’s still kind of all over the place?
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Waste of a curve if you ask me. Kind of like doing a curve on a day they are bouncing. Not good data at all.
Just test more tomorrow/when you can and a pattern *should* emerge.
 
Sorry nobody was around. You could have shot time if she just got a teaspoon of lc. It’s actually fine to shoot a 51 as well with TR and feeding mc since over 50 was fine.
 
Hi Debra, it would be good if you got late cycle tests. I know most of the time it doesn't tell you much, but if you get in the habit you can avoid the panic at shot time. Any number over 50 is good to shoot. Lantus keeps low numbers steady. That's where "shoot low to stay low" comes from.

ETA: Jill is still a little bouncy and as you noted, unpredictable. That's why late cycle testing will be your best friend.

Here's the sticky you should read and re-read:
Tight Regulation: Becoming Data Ready to Shoot / Handle Lower Pre-shot Numbers
 
PerfumedCatMom said:
Hi Debra, it would be good if you got late cycle tests. I know most of the time it doesn't tell you much, but if you get in the habit you can avoid the panic at shot time. Any number over 50 is good to shoot. Lantus keeps low numbers steady. That's where "shoot low to stay low" comes from.
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I will try to get more later in the cycle. I’m not sure how to get comfortable shooting in the 50s though. Guess I have to try it and see?
 
If it makes you feel any better, Ruby often nadirs well past shot time these days. The great thing about Lantus is that it doesn't kick in for 2-3 hours after shot time, so you have plenty of time to feed MC or HC after the shot if you feel like it to make sure she stays up. I break out the MC when she's a lower number than I am used to seeing and keep feeding her small amounts of it. She loves the gravy, will lap it up, and she stays safe.
 
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