Callie 8/8, PMPS, 186 +2.5 , 130 +3.75, 75 + 5, 70 +8.5, 176 +9, 206 +10

My CALI and your CALLIE could swap some secrets. Let’s hope they achieve remission and can share an OJT celebration east coast to west coast.
 
Carla, ha ha yes, I think they could! So nice to meet another calico mom :) I'm there hoping with you - definitely up for a coast to coast party!
 
It looks like Callie's numbers are starting to drop (and/or possibly the libre was giving crazy numbers for a while?)... it was working until +2 tonight and then gave us a few error messages before we decided to manually test at 2.5. (Of course, this is also the first time Callie gave us trouble when we tried to get a drop of blood from her ear....) The number we got using the one-touch ultra 2 at + 2.5 was 186. So my question: do you think we need to try to test every hour tonight if the libre doesn't start working again (or maybe even if it does if the libre numbers could be totally off?) My reading of Callie's last few days is that her nadir is generally +5/+6 so maybe we just need to watch her and make sure we test then? But I am not sure if we can go by the last few days since her numbers really weren't moving much.

Please let me know what you all think. We will of course do whatever we have to do to keep her safe but since she had such a negative reaction to the manual test this time, we would prefer to avoid doing it hourly if it isn't necessary and I am just not sure I understand her numbers well enough to judge that myself... Also trying to figure out sleep schedule (if there is to be any...) Thanks!
 
Update: we got a reading from the libre: 130 at +3.75 . We made sure that Callie ate some LC food (it was already out but we brought it to her and she ate some.) Will keep trying to get readings from libre. Still unsure if we should try to test manually hourly if the libre gives us errors again and also when it would be considered safe to get some sleep. It is about midnight here now and Callie's PM +6 is 2am. Thanks.
 
Jessica A said:
It looks like Callie's numbers are starting to drop (and/or possibly the libre was giving crazy numbers for a while?)... it was working until +2 tonight and then gave us a few error messages before we decided to manually test at 2.5. (Of course, this is also the first time Callie gave us trouble when we tried to get a drop of blood from her ear....) The number we got using the one-touch ultra 2 at + 2.5 was 186. So my question: do you think we need to try to test every hour tonight if the libre doesn't start working again (or maybe even if it does if the libre numbers could be totally off?) My reading of Callie's last few days is that her nadir is generally +5/+6 so maybe we just need to watch her and make sure we test then? But I am not sure if we can go by the last few days since her numbers really weren't moving much.

Please let me know what you all think. We will of course do whatever we have to do to keep her safe but since she had such a negative reaction to the manual test this time, we would prefer to avoid doing it hourly if it isn't necessary and I am just not sure I understand her numbers well enough to judge that myself... Also trying to figure out sleep schedule (if there is to be any...) Thanks!
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I would test her at +5 manually if you can and take it from there. If she’s still dropping, test her again at +6 or +7 depending on how fast she’s dropping. You’ll have to play it by ear I’m afraid.

I never was comfortable going to sleep for the night if the BG was still dropping so we’d get up and test until the first rising BG. The +5 will tell you if you need to test every hour or can drop to every couple hours.
 
Hi - just had a little scare (for us. I know we are going to have to get used to navigating lower numbers...) We got a low BG alarm from the libre just before +5. BG = 75 w downward arrow. We gave Callie some LC food with a tiny bit of her old HC food and tested on the one touch. At 1:05am one touch read 94 and libre read 93 at 1:07am so they are very close. We just tested again using libre and she is 82 at 1:17am. Should we give her more higher-carb food? Sit tight?
 
Jessica A said:
Hi - just had a little scare (for us. I know we are going to have to get used to navigating lower numbers...) We got a low BG alarm from the libre just before +5. BG = 75 w downward arrow. We gave Callie some LC food with a tiny bit of her old HC food and tested on the one touch. At 1:05am one touch read 94 and libre read 93 at 1:07am so they are very close. We just tested again using libre and she is 82 at 1:17am. Should we give her more higher-carb food? Sit tight?
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You could give her some LC but HC is not needed now.
 
Ok, she did eat quite a bit of LC about 15 mins ago so I expect she'll go up at least a little at her next reading/ test. How will I know if/when it is just a food bump and if/when it is safe to let her be for a couple of hours?
 
These are very good numbers and still gives you some room to react. I will let Marje give advice on how to proceed just wanted to reassure you, you want to keep her above 50 :bighug: when you have some time/sleep please mark the +5 cell in dark green, congratulations on the green value :)

this is called an active cycle and now you have to make sure she surfs the green without dropping too much more.
 
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Thanks so much Marina. I made that color change on the ss (sorry - wasn't thinking straight at all!)

My head knows that these are good numbers but honestly, this is all still a little scary. We got another low reading alarm from the libre (80 or under) after which both the reader and sensor started giving error messages only. I gave Callie more LC food and we will try another manual test if the next attempt at getting a libre reading doesn't work.
 
Update: Just got 107 on libre +6:17. Unsure if that is just a food boost or maybe she was headed up from nadir anyway. Will keep monitoring.
 
When was the 80? 107 seems too much for a food bump so most probably she is headed up, because she is new to these numbers i would test at +7 just to be sure and if she is higher than that would be it. Maybe @Bandit's Mom would jump in with her more experienced eye.
When is the last food you fed?
 
The 80 or lower alarm was about 45 mins ago. We fed her more food then (it was 99% LC but I had mixed a tiny bit of her HC in it earlier in the evening when we got the first alarm and forgot to replace it with only LC when I got the second alarm) and the reading 20 mins or so later was 107. That was the last food we fed her.

We had also given her quite a bit of food when we got the first alarm an hour or so before this.
 
Another update: 147 @ +7:15 (l), 110 @ +7:45 (l) - just now. I fed Callie some more (only LC) food after the 110 because it dropped from the 147 and the libre reader had an arrow sloping down. Hope I am doing the right thing. It is almost 4am here and I am going to stay up with Callie to continue to monitor her but my partner takes medication that makes him drowsy at night so he had to go to sleep a couple of hours ago. I've only ever done manual BGs with him (one of us sticks her and the other holds/ treats her) so I am worried that if it starts to really drop again and the libre stops working again it is going to be hard for me to get a manual BG myself... figured better safe feeding her more than sorry not feeding her and ending up hypo. I know that this will get easier to make sense of and to do but it is hard to fathom that now. Will continue to update....
 
California Cali here with you. We had to wake her dad for 1am test. Your Callie could probably hear her growl and attack. A snack/treat ploy and it worked. Our first greens today after extended bounces. Meeting your beautiful girl must have been an inspiration to her. Good luck and tiny bit of good sleep. Now it already tomorrow here too. Take care
 
911 Update - another low alarm just before I checked libre reading at +8.5 = 70 and sloping down. Pushing another LC snack on her. Is this correct?
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Do you have a human meter you can verify the low Libre readings with? We have seen Libres give some wonky low readings.

70 is a safe number and LC should be enough this late in the cycle.
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Thanks. I do have a one touch ultra meter and we checked both when she was in the low 90s earlier and they were almost identical at that number. My partner is asleep now and I am not sure I can take manual BG on my own because Callie has been fighting us with it today. I can try to wake him or try myself if you think it is urgent.
 
Marina & Chico said:
Thank you Bhooma for stepping in, I was just writing a message to tag you :)
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Thank you both. I really hope I'm not keeping/waking anyone up. This is just all very new to us and definitely more frightening in the middle of the night with no sleep... I really appreciate the help.
 
Jessica A said:
I can try to wake him or try myself if you think it is urgent
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Not urgent so don't bother waking him up.

Jessica A said:
Thank you both. I really hope I'm not keeping/waking anyone up. This is just all very new to us and definitely more frightening in the middle of the night with no sleep... I really appreciate the help.
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I'm in India and it's the afternoon for me. So you aren't keeping me up. Happy to help :-)
 
Jessica A said:
Thanks. I do have a one touch ultra meter and we checked both when she was in the low 90s earlier and they were almost identical at that number. My partner is asleep now and I am not sure I can take manual BG on my own because Callie has been fighting us with it today. I can try to wake him or try myself if you think it is urgent.
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the reason for a second test is that sometimes meters give wrong readings, we have the habit to double check if the number seems a bit off, in this case a drop of 80 points in half an hour at +8 seemed a bit weird. I see that you changed the value, did you manage to get a second test?

Jessica A said:
Thank you both. I really hope I'm not keeping/waking anyone up. This is just all very new to us and definitely more frightening in the middle of the night with no sleep... I really appreciate the help.
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i am as well on the other side of the world :) in Czech Republic so it's lunch for me, so no worries. You did great today hope you manage to get some sleep :bighug:
 
Bandit's Mom said:
I'm in India and it's the afternoon for me. So you aren't keeping me up. Happy to help :)
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Ok, I feel a little better then but I still REALLY REALLY appreciate your help! :bighug:

Just a quick update - BG back up to 176 (l) @ + 9 and libre indicates an upward slope arrow. Are swings between 70s and 170s common? (Obviously the snacks I kept feeding her in my panic had something to do with it but just wondering if the jumping around Callie is doing is to be expected generally.)
 
Marina & Chico said:
the reason for a second test is that sometimes meters give wrong readings, we have the habit to double check if the number seems a bit off, in this case a drop of 80 points in half an hour at +8 seemed a bit weird. I see that you changed the value, did you manage to get a second test?


i am as well on the other side of the world :) in Czech Republic so it's lunch for me, so no worries. You did great today hope you manage to get some sleep :bighug:
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Ok good but ditto what I wrote to Bhooma. No, no second test those are all libre numbers. I moved the lower number I got at + 8.5 to the notes section since it was a different color than the +8. Sorry to confuse things. She is bouncing around quite a bit - up 80+ and down 80+ but she has been eating quite a bit when her numbers go lower.
 
Update - 206 @ +10 with an arrow straight up on the libre so I think it is probably okay for me to try to take a quick nap before morning insulin (in less than 2 hours.) I still have the libre's low alarm on high volume in case there is any funny business between now and then but given this number and how late in the cycle we are, I am sure it will be fine. I'll start a new thread with Callie's AMPS. Huge thank you again to Marina, Marje and Bhooma for helping us get through tonight. Without you all, I would have lost it completely. :bighug:
 
Jessica A said:
Ok good but ditto what I wrote to Bhooma. No, no second test those are all libre numbers. I moved the lower number I got at + 8.5 to the notes section since it was a different color than the +8. Sorry to confuse things. She is bouncing around quite a bit - up 80+ and down 80+ but she has been eating quite a bit when her numbers go lower.
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I understood that you didn’t take a second test at +8.5, i was just trying to explain the reason behind it so next time you understand the reason of the question :)
Regarding the 70, it is actually recommended you put it in the same cell as the +8 and color the cell in the color belonging to the lowest value you measured.
Jessica A said:
Update - 206 @ +10 with an arrow straight up on the libre so I think it is probably okay for me to try to take a quick nap before morning insulin (in less than 2 hours.) I still have the libre's low alarm on high volume in case there is any funny business between now and then but given this number and how late in the cycle we are, I am sure it will be fine. I'll start a new thread with Callie's AMPS. Huge thank you again to Marina, Marje and Bhooma for helping us get through tonight. Without you all, I would have lost it completely. :bighug:
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It is definitely safe to sleep the 2 hours now you poor being :bighug:
Glad we were helpful and hopefully tomorrow she will continue the progress but in less adventurous drops :rolleyes:
 
Marina & Chico said:
Regarding the 70, it is actually recommended you put it in the same cell as the +8 and color the cell in the color belonging to the lowest value you measured.

It is definitely safe to sleep the 2 hours now you poor being :bighug:
Glad we were helpful and hopefully tomorrow she will continue the progress but in less adventurous drops :rolleyes:
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Got it re: adding the 70 back to the +8 cell and coloring the cell based on the lowest number. Good to know that - done for last night and will do in the future. Also, understood about the wonky libre readings at lower numbers so helpful to get manual readings to confirm where possible.

I was able to get about an hour of sleep (yay!) and Callie was back in yellows at AMPS (will start new thread now.) Hopefully Callie will listen to you, Marina! I would LOVE a day with less adventurous drops :) I might even try to sneak in a couple hours more sleep if that's where we are headed. We'll see...
 
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