HELP!! Stalling again low numbers at shot time

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at 10 minutes past shot time up to 190. Scared. Janet says safe over 200 to shoot. Do not know what to do. HELP
 
If you have plenty of supplies (medium and high carb food, Karo/honey/syrup and test strips) and can test as long as might be necessary tonight, I'd go ahead with the 3.25U dose

You can put both the 170 and 190 in the same cell. Like 170 @ +12, 190 @ +12.5 ....that lets us know that you stalled (you have to color code it yourself)

The numbers are going up....that's what the stall is for....to see if the last shot is starting to wear off without food influencing the number
 
Don't panic. You know what to do. Trust your gut. You can always stall for up to an hour past shot time to see the numbers move.
 
How glad are you that you got a +10 to know it was rising, and at what rate?!

And seriously, the frantic feeling, it's as if time starts to go by in slow motion, and your heart is going to explode. Happy to hear you were able to give the shot and his +2 looks nice and safe.
 
smorgasbord said:
How glad are you that you got a +10 to know it was rising, and at what rate?!

And seriously, the frantic feeling, it's as if time starts to go by in slow motion, and your heart is going to explode. Happy to hear you were able to give the shot and his +2 looks nice and safe.
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yes, very glad. I am starting to be able to tell by his demeanor how things are going for him.
 
JanetNJ said:
I was on vacation this week so didn't check the boards as often. Distracted at hershey park. Lol
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WHAT? On vacation?? Not allowed. You are supposed to be at my beck and call!
Just kidding.
It was probably good for me to walk myself through the crisis.
I get it now, we are not allowed to have anything that resembles a life ourselves. Our patient can jump around numbers-wise and no matter what we had planned for the evening, it might all go by the wayside while we play the game of "stick kitty in the ear and withhold his dinner until he is grumpy as heck"
 
Susan Pomo said:
I get it now, we are not allowed to have anything that resembles a life ourselves.
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Ha ha not true. And to clarify, there was no crisis. Lol. A crisis is hypo, not "my cat is in awesome numbers for a preshot ". Ha ha if my cat was a little low at a preshot but close to a shootable number but I really had to leave the house i would reduce the dose a little and leave out food that was 9-12 carb just in case.
 
JanetNJ said:
if my cat was a little low at a preshot but close to a shootable number but I really had to leave the house i would reduce the dose a little and leave out food that was 9-12 carb just in case.
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Last night I was searching for your words because I thought you had said somewhere when it was OK to shoot. (If number is over 200 and rising) I was frantic.
YES, I did need to leave the house because my other passion, aside from Joe, is TNR and our local spay/neuter clinic has given me and my friend, our own day (Friday ) to bring 5 feral cats in traps. So Thursday is trapping night and I knew where I needed to put fully loaded (with Mackeral) traps and it was getting close to prime time to get some of the feral cats that are out and about.
 
Susan Pomo said:
OK! Something eelse to bookmark.
Last night I was searching for your words because I thought you had said somewhere when it was OK to shoot. (If number is over 200 and rising) I was frantic.
YES, I did need to leave the house because my other passion, aside from Joe, is TNR and our local spay/neuter clinic has given me and my friend, our own day (Friday ) to bring 5 feral cats in traps. So Thursday is trapping night and I knew where I needed to put fully loaded (with Mackeral) traps and it was getting close to prime time to get some of the feral cats that are out and about.
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You are correct. If the number is going up over 200 is generally safe. Once you have more experience you can shoot lower.


How did trapping day go? Did you get 5? That's great work. I've done a bit of it just with cats around me. Probably 20-24 cats. Thankfully there are a lot less around now, and there are some people a few blocks away that also tnr so our area area a lot less kittens. The last kittens I saw in the immediate area by me were the ones born in my garage 6 years ago. I used to feed about 8 cats in my yard. And some have come and gone... Some leave and new ones came. Currently We are now down to 3 outside. Some moved. Some were hit by cars. :( some died of other causes. My five inside cats were all at one time outside finds.
 
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JanetNJ said:
You are correct. If the number is going up over 200 is generally safe. Once you have more experience you can shoot lower.


How did trapping day go? Did you get 5? That's great work. I've done a bit of it just with cats around me. Probably 20-24 cats. Thankfully there are a lot less around now, and there are some people a few blocks away that also tnr so our area area a lot less kittens. The last kittens I saw in the immediate area by me were the ones born in my garage 6 years ago. I used to feed about 8 cats in my yard. And some have come and gone... Some leave and new ones came. Currently We are now down to 3 outside. Some moved. Some were hit by cars. :( some died of other causes. My five inside cats were all at one time outside finds.
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We did not get our five. The first time we did not get any at all. Just a big mean raccoon. I have let many a possum and groundhog out of a trap but this guy caused me to catch my breath when I released. Living in rural Georgia there are so many ferals you can usually catch anywhere you set a trap. We are low on funds anyway so it might have been for a reason that we came up empty-handed.
My 3 are all outside rescues too and my baby girl Cheddar was a feral kitten that I socialized. Joe and Julie were just homeless strays that nobody wanted and I was stuck with them.
 
Susan Pomo said:
We did not get our five. The first time we did not get any at all. Just a big mean raccoon. I have let many a possum and groundhog out of a trap but this guy caused me to catch my breath when I released. Living in rural Georgia there are so many ferals you can usually catch anywhere you set a trap. We are low on funds anyway so it might have been for a reason that we came up empty-handed.
My 3 are all outside rescues too and my baby girl Cheddar was a feral kitten that I socialized. Joe and Julie were just homeless strays that nobody wanted and I was stuck with them.
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The garden apartments next to my house allow pets. It's common for them to just let the cats loose if they move to a less pet friendly place. Terrible. And of course they are never spayed /neutered. We are trying to convince Gnocchi, one of the ones we feed, to come inside. She will let my partner pick her up and pet her, and let's my son pet her and licks his toes. She will sometimes go in our kitchen but usually less than 10 seconds she freaks out and runs back out. Lol she's been outside about 7 years now so she is just not wanting to be in. BUT we have a pet door in our garage with blankets and heated beds and tents. I'm just afraid she will be hit by a car. They drive SO FAST down my street. We've had 3 ferals killed in front of our house.
 
Bless the both of you for doing TNR! We have a few around our town that I try to take care of, but it's hard to tell if they're actually strays or people's pets. It's how I ended up with Nico though. :joyful:. We found him down at a sandwich shop, the owner was giving him scraps and told us how loving he was. Poor guy was so sick, vet told us he wouldn't make it past a year but we continued to care for him. With Lots of love and multiple trips to the vet, he turned around within a year. I think that's why I'm so adamant that I'm going to help him through his diabetes. Tough cat made it this far.
 
BellaBlue82 said:
Bless the both of you for doing TNR! We have a few around our town that I try to take care of, but it's hard to tell if they're actually strays or people's pets. It's how I ended up with Nico though. :joyful:. We found him down at a sandwich shop, the owner was giving him scraps and told us how loving he was. Poor guy was so sick, vet told us he wouldn't make it past a year but we continued to care for him. With Lots of love and multiple trips to the vet, he turned around within a year. I think that's why I'm so adamant that I'm going to help him through his diabetes. Tough cat made it this far.
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Well he's very pretty. Does he have other health issues besides diabetes
 
JanetNJ said:
Well he's very pretty. Does he have other health issues besides diabetes
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Thank you!! He is nothing but a big love bug lol. We lucked out, he doesn't have any other health issues other than the recent DM diagnosis in April. No FIV, FIP, FeLV, nothing!
He was just so sick when we first found him, mites, fleas, yeast infection, respiratory infection, parasites, you name it. He made it through all that, so we know he's a tough guy! And he's happy to be loved.
 
BellaBlue82 said:
Thank you!! He is nothing but a big love bug lol. We lucked out, he doesn't have any other health issues other than the recent DM diagnosis in April. No FIV, FIP, FeLV, nothing!
He was just so sick when we first found him, mites, fleas, yeast infection, respiratory infection, parasites, you name it. He made it through all that, so we know he's a tough guy! And he's happy to be loved.
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You should show a pic to the sandwich shop guy so he can see how great he looks
 
JanetNJ said:
You should show a pic to the sandwich shop guy so he can see how great he looks
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Lol well I ended up becoming friends with the lady that worked there, and now all we talk about is Nico. Of course, we had to pick an Italian-ish name because he was found at an Italian sandwich shop. :joyful:
I sent her pictures all the time, she gets such a kick out of it!
 
BellaBlue82 said:
Lol well I ended up becoming friends with the lady that worked there, and now all we talk about is Nico. Of course, we had to pick an Italian-ish name because he was found at an Italian sandwich shop. :joyful:
I sent her pictures all the time, she gets such a kick out of it!
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Nico is a handsome guy. His name could be Nico Salami.

Joe was a stray living in a trailer park that I trapped at. He just latched on to me and almost seemed to be begging for someone to love. He was a little guy with huge feet. I knew he would be a big guy someday. He did not like anybody else and growled a lot but he loved me. Julie was living with some "ladies of the night" in a tent, near a truck stop in Atlanta and they were feeding her Cheetos. I worked nearby and would see her when I drove to work and started giving her a can of food. Then she would wait for me in the morning each day. I had to take her home.
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Susan Pomo said:
Nico is a handsome guy. His name could be Nico Salami.

Joe was a stray living in a trailer park that I trapped at. He just latched on to me and almost seemed to be begging for someone to love. He was a little guy with huge feet. I knew he would be a big guy someday. He did not like anybody else and growled a lot but he loved me. Julie was living with some "ladies of the night" in a tent, near a truck stop in Atlanta and they were feeding her Cheetos. I worked nearby and would see her when I drove to work and started giving her a can of food. Then she would wait for me in the morning each day. I had to take her home.
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Oh, they are so beautiful Susan!! It's amazing how they pick us lol. And Nico (who's nickname became Bubba because he was such a big fluffy kitty) has huge paws too! We thought he was a full grown cat when we found him... Nope lol. We think he's part Maine coon.
 
Susan Pomo said:
It was probably good for me to walk myself through the crisis.
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It's funny how as we get more experience, our crisis levels change. Like that WAS completely a crisis for you, and I'm sure you were terrified. And soon you'll be shooting at 100 and that will feel just as panicky as 200.
A few months ago I would have been in crisis panic mode if I got a 250!
I just looked at my SS, and on 6/26, only a little over a month ago, I SKIPPED his shot when he was 228!
 
smorgasbord said:
Loving these "adoption" stories. Great job with the TNR, every little bit helps. But what does TNR stand for?
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TNR is Trap Neuter and Release. There's a lot of animal lovers that work with shelters to find strays or ferals and at least neuter or spay them so they don't have more kittens. It's a more human way to make sure street cat population doesn't increase. Since it's so difficult to make a feral domesticated, it's a small way to help.
 
we parted ways with our animal shelter. A big giant waste of tax dollars that it is. They would only pay for the altering with rabies vaccine if we dropped them at the shelter and let the shelter transport them to the clinic and then release them. Their history of doing this is a disgrace and they have been known to release in the wrong area, as in getting mixed up of who goes where (that can life or death to a feral) and also release spay/aborted moms with no care. We refused to comply so they will no longer pay our fees at the clinic. (Even though I pay a slew of taxes that go to this shelter)
We went off on our own, we call ourselves TCAT (two chicks and a trap) and volunteer and do it for others. Sometimes we ask that the owner, of whatever house we are doing pay the fees and they are usually glad to if we do the trapping and transporting. Other times we get donors to help us. We are currently applying for a grant to help us.
We are very careful where we release, we usually know there is a feeder nearby and we always leave food when we release. We keep aborted moms for at least a day and when she is third trimester abort we buy pain meds from the clinic and keep 2-3 days. So many people call us we can hardly keep up with it
 
Susan Pomo said:
we parted ways with our animal shelter. A big giant waste of tax dollars that it is. They would only pay for the altering with rabies vaccine if we dropped them at the shelter and let the shelter transport them to the clinic and then release them. Their history of doing this is a disgrace and they have been known to release in the wrong area, as in getting mixed up of who goes where (that can life or death to a feral) and also release spay/aborted moms with no care. We refused to comply so they will no longer pay our fees at the clinic. (Even though I pay a slew of taxes that go to this shelter)
We went off on our own, we call ourselves TCAT (two chicks and a trap) and volunteer and do it for others. Sometimes we ask that the owner, of whatever house we are doing pay the fees and they are usually glad to if we do the trapping and transporting. Other times we get donors to help us. We are currently applying for a grant to help us.
We are very careful where we release, we usually know there is a feeder nearby and we always leave food when we release. We keep aborted moms for at least a day and when she is third trimester abort we buy pain meds from the clinic and keep 2-3 days. So many people call us we can hardly keep up with it
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A friend of mine registered as a non profit so he can get donations and stuff for the colonies he cares for.
 
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