7/1 Minnie PMPS 92 +5 73

Liz & Minnie

Member Since 2021
Yesterday we surfed again and reduced dose to 5 this morning. I'm going back to bed. She is still not eating properly (after a good stretch last night eating until ~+6 then got super picky..ondansetron at +8.5)

Last night:
6/30 Minnie PMPS 63 +2.5 50 +4 52 +4.5 44 +5 55 +5.5 57 +6.25 72 +8.5 56 +9.5 60 +10 82
 
Oh yes! Though it looks like she had delayed reaction bounce last time? I don't know what is going on with this cat. Doesn't want to eat...then just came to me asking for food. Gave a little, which she ate up so I gave a little more of the same - not interested. My whole place smells of cat food.
 
You must be getting out of line and she's reminding you who's boss :joyful: you have more patience than I do!
Oh that really makes me laugh. I am not patient. I am so sick and tired of this circus. Being a zombie after the last 2 nights doesn't help.

RIGHT NOW she is rubbing round my legs as if she wants food after walking away from the frickazee. The same frickazee she ate 20minutes ago but OH NOOOOO madam wants something else for the 2nd course.
 
Oh that really makes me laugh. I am not patient. I am so sick and tired of this circus. Being a zombie after the last 2 nights doesn't help.

RIGHT NOW she is rubbing round my legs as if she wants food after walking away from the frickazee. The same frickazee she ate 20minutes ago but OH NOOOOO madam wants something else for the 2nd course.
Have you ever tried playing hardball with Minnie? Okay, this will make me sound really mean, but when my kids were little I could not tolerate them being picky and I didn’t want to encourage it. Okay…. I am not going to tell the whole thing because some people wouldn’t get it…. But the bottom line is that the kids wouldn’t eat their breakfast and so I took it back up from the table, covered their dishes with plastic wrap, and I said that was fine …. They didn’t have to eat it….. they could try again tomorrow (yes, they got lunch and dinner too). The next day they were presented with the exact same food for breakfast. They ate it. I never had one more picky day with them ever (except one time my son cried when I put a plate of sautéed Monkfish in front of him, because it looked so weird. After we comforted him, he tasted it and loved it. Soooo … around our house we have a saying about playing hardball… if the cats won’t eat their food! Of course, this usually only applies to cats who are not “special needs.” It’s sooo hard to play hardball with the ones that you really need to eat. With my other ones who are trying to “play me” I am totally fine with letting them skip a meal and getting their old dish from the previous meal right back at them for the next meal! I know the exact breaking point of each cat. Some are more stubborn than others. And sometimes a less picky buddy comes along and eats the leftovers to get them off the hook (that’s where Sam comes in at your house.) I can’t afford to waste cat food on the healthy cats.

I am not REALLY suggesting any kind of withholding food from Minnie….. but I think she knows that you are an “easy mark!”
 
I was thinking same as Suzanne ha that's what meant by patience, if it were mr kitty he gets whatever can I put down, sorry big guy tough luck

I have a toddler right now, asks for blueberries and waffles, both of which she's had 500 times, once in front her her she decides nope. Ok well that's your morning snack then. And possibly lunch if being difficult. It made it to lunch 2-3x then never again (same as Suzanne I don't starve my kids, but there's a difference between actually disliking something and just being picky/a pain...calories and nutrition easily made up elsewhere during the day).
 
I was thinking same as Suzanne ha that's what meant by patience, if it were mr kitty he gets whatever can I put down, sorry big guy rough luck

I have a toddler right now, asks for blueberries and waffles, both of which she's had 500 times, once in front her her she decides nope. Ok well that's your morning snack then. And possibly lunch if being difficult. It made it to lunch 2-3x then never again (same as Suzanne I don't starve my kids, but there's a difference between actually disliking something and just being picky/a pain...calories and nutrition easily made up elsewhere during the day).
Yes!
 
I completely get this. My mum used to do the same for us - sit at the table until you eat it. And in the past I have done this with Sam but with Minnie I am petrified she won't eat while having dropping numbers. Like last night. Actually I'm always petrified she won't eat because with high numbers there's the ketone risk. That feeding tube situation scarred me.

How do you feed the curve and keep them surfing when they won't eat? I want to avoid syringe feeding if possible, she already is giving me a hard time when I pick her up, give insulin, sometimes during BG test - which all started after the antibiotics and the pilling. And if she won't eat what's there, then how can I safely leave her/go to sleep just by leaving food out?

Looks like a good first part of day for catch up sleep. I hope it's cooled down where you are too, making that sleep so much easier. :)

Temps are much better now, even felt a bit chilly with the windows open last night though the high temps didn't stop me sleeping! I'm feeling jet lagged today.
 
Oh that really makes me laugh. I am not patient. I am so sick and tired of this circus. Being a zombie after the last 2 nights doesn't help.

RIGHT NOW she is rubbing round my legs as if she wants food after walking away from the frickazee. The same frickazee she ate 20minutes ago but OH NOOOOO madam wants something else for the 2nd course.
Oh what a princess. I seriously just lol'd.
Sounds about standard to me. I just sigh and crack open something new. Maybe if she went longer between feedings? I was shocked when Templeton wolfed his Weruva Goldie Lox last night, he normally won't touch anything other than pate. I attribute it to making him wait 2 hours.
 
I completely get this. My mum used to do the same for us - sit at the table until you eat it. And in the past I have done this with Sam but with Minnie I am petrified she won't eat while having dropping numbers. Like last night. Actually I'm always petrified she won't eat because with high numbers there's the ketone risk. That feeding tube situation scarred me.

How do you feed the curve and keep them surfing when they won't eat? I want to avoid syringe feeding if possible, she already is giving me a hard time when I pick her up, give insulin, sometimes during BG test - which all started after the antibiotics and the pilling. And if she won't eat what's there, then how can I safely leave her/go to sleep just by leaving food out?



Temps are much better now, even felt a bit chilly with the windows open last night though the high temps didn't stop me sleeping! I'm feeling jet lagged today.
If I’m worried Chloe hasn’t eaten enough and I can’t get her attention with a fresh dish of LC food, I spoon a teeny tiny bit of MC food with gravy on top of the pate - like 1/2 tsp. Goes nuts for it. She will usually eat some of the LC around it because she’s sloppy.
 
If I’m worried Chloe hasn’t eaten enough and I can’t get her attention with a fresh dish of LC food, I spoon a teeny tiny bit of MC food with gravy on top of the pate - like 1/2 tsp. Goes nuts for it. She will usually eat some of the LC around it because she’s sloppy.
I've been doing this for a while, a smear of A/D on top of whatever else I've given to entice her.

You all are going to laugh immensely though now. She came out from under the bed looking hungry, so I put back down the 2 dinner bowls from earlier. The A/D went right under her nose and she ignored it then turned her back on it. The other (which has the meds in) went in her usual spot. Sam started eating one of them so I started telling him off, then said 'oh eat it, I don't care'. Next thing I know, she is at her eating place and as I type this she is emptying the bowl with extra lip smacking. I swear these cats are psychic!!

ETA Unbelievable. She finished the first bowl, disappeared. Then came back and is emptying the other bowl.
 
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I've been doing this for a while, a smear of A/D on top of whatever else I've given to entice her.

You all are going to laugh immensely though now. She came out from under the bed looking hungry, so I put back down the 2 dinner bowls from earlier. The A/D went right under her nose and she ignored it then turned her back on it. The other (which has the meds in) went in her usual spot. Sam started eating one of them so I started telling him off, then said 'oh eat it, I don't care'. Next thing I know, she is at her eating place and as I type this she is emptying the bowl with extra lip smacking. I swear these cats are psychic!!

ETA Unbelievable. She finished the first bowl, disappeared. Then came back and is emptying the other bowl.

This is one of those instances where you say, "you're lucky you're so cute".
 
:bighug:@Liz & Minnie about the food… you are right about the food and the pills and all the rest! Minnie has you between a rock and a hard place! I totally understand about the ketones as well. It’s possible that she really does not feel well at times … other time I guess she’s messing around! It can be so exhausting trying to get them to eat! What do you do if, say, she won’t eat the food with the spironolactone in it? :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
:bighug:@Liz & Minnie about the food… you are right about the food and the pills and all the rest! Minnie has you between a rock and a hard place! I totally understand about the ketones as well. It’s possible that she really does not feel well at times … other time I guess she’s messing around! It can be so exhausting trying to get them to eat! What do you do if, say, she won’t eat the food with the spironolactone in it? :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
I'm trying to adjust my tactics. Have to give Sam plenty of food to discourage him from stealing hers. This morning she ate about half of the breakfast with meds so when she woke up an hour later, I gave it to her again and she ate a bit more. Last few days I have just stopped worrying about the spiro. Sometimes I put a little food down w/o meds to see if she's eating it, then add the meds when I give her a top up (that's what was frustrating yesterday!). Yesterday I put potassium in an extra meal. I am also thinking about trying the spiro pills again now my skills are a bit improved. It's a balancing act of what is the most stressful - I know you know.

Sam is also not eating too well right now, so I'm thinking it may be the weather even though it is a lot cooler now. Who knows. At least I am feeling a bit more able to cope with all this after a full night's sleep!
 
I'm trying to adjust my tactics. Have to give Sam plenty of food to discourage him from stealing hers. This morning she ate about half of the breakfast with meds so when she woke up an hour later, I gave it to her again and she ate a bit more. Last few days I have just stopped worrying about the spiro. Sometimes I put a little food down w/o meds to see if she's eating it, then add the meds when I give her a top up (that's what was frustrating yesterday!). Yesterday I put potassium in an extra meal. I am also thinking about trying the spiro pills again now my skills are a bit improved. It's a balancing act of what is the most stressful - I know you know.

Sam is also not eating too well right now, so I'm thinking it may be the weather even though it is a lot cooler now. Who knows. At least I am feeling a bit more able to cope with all this after a full night's sleep!
Yes. You are getting to be an awesome piller!
 
Yes. You are getting to be an awesome piller!
LOL let's not get too carried away...2 cerenia and a few ondansetron, but those are easier because I can grip her jaw shut until it dissolves. Still, enough skills to make me consider the spiro now! She just doesn't like the taste of that, don't have to worry about the slobbering mouth like I would with cerenia escaping from the gelcap!
 
LOL let's not get too carried away...2 cerenia and a few ondansetron, but those are easier because I can grip her jaw shut until it dissolves. Still, enough skills to make me consider the spiro now! She just doesn't like the taste of that, don't have to worry about the slobbering mouth like I would with cerenia escaping from the gelcap!
Seriously, I think you have made a lot of progress with pilling. But as always with cats, it feels like two steps forward and one step back! Are you up for the next race?
 
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