7/6 Mauer AMPS 301, +3 281, +5 229, +6 185, +9 137, PMPS 88, +2.5 92

Oh man, how frustrating. I wonder what’s up with Mauer lately? I do know of a few people who swear that they get better numbers when they shoot in the flank, but I have tried it and didn’t see any significant difference. I hope you have a good afternoon and evening, Sasha.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Oh man, how frustrating. I wonder what’s up with Mauer lately? I do know of a few people who swear that they get better numbers when they shoot in the flank, but I have tried it and didn’t see any significant difference. I hope you have a good afternoon and evening, Sasha.
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I've tried shooting different places, it seems to work but only for some time. Maybe I need to rotate even more?
 
I am happy to help you sort out the calipers. They drove me crazy for a while, so I got deep into it :smuggrin:
Can you send me a picture of the syringes you typically use?
 
Excellent. That is the one I use! The trick with this one is to use the inside arms of the calipers, and meassire from under the ring, to the top of the plunger, like in this photo
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To begin with, the best you can do is go to what you believe you are currently giving Mauer (because you do not want to chang ethat, you just want to make that amount - whatever it is - more consistent. Bring the plunger to the point you think is 2.75, and use the calipers to meassure the value between the top of the plunger and the bottom of the ring. Write that value down. Move the plunger away. bring it back to what you think you have been giving him again, and meassure again. Do that about 10 times, and calculate that average distance. That should be your starting dose.
 
I think for non-US BD syringes 1 unit = 1.5 mm. So 2.75 X 1.5 = 4.125 mm on the calipers. On my US made BD syringes, 1 unit = 1.62 mm.
 
To do these meassurements, I usually place the syringe with the cap on and the caliper in a piece of white paper in my kitchen counter where there is a lot of light. Then I place my phone on top of the same water glass everytime, and open the camera app and go to the maximum zoom. Because the phone is propped up I can have both hands to deal with the caliper and syringe.

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Hercule's mum said:
To do these meassurements, I usually place the syringe with the cap on and the caliper in a piece of white paper in my kitchen counter where there is a lot of light. Then I place my phone on top of the same water glass everytime, and open the camera app and go to the maximum zoom. Because the phone is propped up I can have both hands to deal with the caliper and syringe.

My setup look like this:View attachment 61166
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Love that setup!
 
Hercule's mum said:
@PerfumedCatMom - Yes. My measurements are similar :1.52 mm for 0.5 units, but 3 units will not be double due to the sapce above the zero remaining constant (hope this makes sense... in other word 0 units is not 0mm)
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I measure to the bottom of that clear cap at the top so I don't account for it, though I know from doing drop doses now that there is a fat drop of insulin between the cap at the top and what's in the needle.
 
I estimate 2.75 U to be 4.5 mm, which is really weird. It just shows again how wonky the marks are, and how important it is to just estimate to your best ability what you have been giving as a starting point. But do that in multiple syringes, because there is a huge variation between them. So if it looks about right in 6 of 10 syringes, than is a good place to start :)

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SashaV said:
Gosh this is confusing!
You guys know I absolutely suck with numbers, right?!
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Sorry! Let's go with small steps. Does the setup look ok and doable? Can you try tonight when you prepare the syringe to read with the caliper the dose you give?
 
You want to find the syringes where the zero line is actually where it should be to make your measurement. They're totally wonky the way they are printed. Once you have figured out what 1 unit is on YOUR syringe, then you can make extrapolations from that standard. You got this, Sasha!!!
 
Hercule's mum said:
Sorry! Let's go with small steps. Does the setup look ok and doable? Can you try tonight when you prepare the syringe to read with the caliper the dose you give?
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Let's do baby steps.
Where do I measure from? The outer or inner line of the jaw of the calipers? And how the heck do I read it? It's not digital :cool:
 
SashaV said:
outer or inner line of the jaw of the calipers?
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If your callipers have inner jaws, as in the first picture I sent, you want to go under the ring at the top of the syringe with the top arm, and slide the the calipers so the other arm (or jaw), touches the top of your plunger. How to read that on your caliper I am not sure.

Hopefully your caliper has a way to lock the jaws in place once you got into the right position? If so, lock it in place. That way you can use that distance as a reference for now. If it doesn't have a way to lock it, then you may need to invest in a new caliper.....
 
Hercule's mum said:
Ah!
Can you send a picture or a link to the caliper you own?
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Own? I kinda stole it.
From my dad :p
Would it be easier with a digital one?
Really isn't the point more consistency more than the actual measurement in itself?
Because then it might be easier chasing down some colorful drink, of some kind
 
SashaV said:
I kinda stole it.
From my dad
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Well, then he can tell you how to read it! :)

and yes, the point is consistence. So that is why the locking in place is important! The actual meassurement is only important when you want to change doses, so you know by how much to change it....but as long as you are in the same dose, the locking in place and using that sistance instead of the markings in the syringe to determine the dose is all that matters. Once you start doing this, you will see how wildly different the markings in the syringe are!
 
Hercule's mum said:
Well, then he can tell you how to read it! :)

and yes, the point is consistence. So that is why the locking in place is important! The actual meassurement is only important when you want to change doses, so you know by how much to change it....but as long as you are in the same dose, the locking in place and using that sistance instead of the markings in the syringe to determine the dose is all that matters. Once you start doing this, you will see how wildly different the markings in the syringe are!
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I see how different they are. One the caliper reads 2.75, on the next it's 3. Really not clever made...
But I find it hard to compare when they can't be close together :oops:
 
Can you get digital calipers by any chance? Look at tge one in the video and it’s specs and try to find a similar one.
 
tiffmaxee said:
Can you get digital calipers by any chance? Look at tge one in the video and it’s specs and try to find a similar one.
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I can, but they're very expensive here. And I'm a bit reluctant to buy something I don't know how to use :oops::rolleyes:
 
SashaV said:
But I find it hard to compare when they can't be close together
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I am not sure what are you referring to, when you say can't be close together? Do you mean two syringes? If so, I agree with you. I tried the method of using colured water but it didn't help me because if the syringes I use.
I'll let you be, but if you can find out how to lock your dad's caliper in place, then you can use it to help maintain a dose fixed. Perhaps he can help you to measure your current dose and lock it in place? then, there will be a wobbly change in dose, but not more wobbly then doing by the marking anyway. So whenver you changed the dose you meassure and lock it n place and use it as you reference. That should help iron out a bit of the syringe by syringe variation.
 
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I am not sure what are you referring to, when you say can't be close together? Do you mean two syringes? If so, I agree with you. I tried the method of using colured water but it didn't help me because if the syringes I use.
I'll let you be, but if you can find out how to lock your dad's caliper in place, then you can use it to help maintain a dose fixed. Perhaps he can help you to measure your current dose and lock it in place? then, there will be a wobbly change in dose, but not more wobbly then doing by the marking anyway. So whenver you changed the dose you meassure and lock it n place and use it as you reference. That should help iron out a bit of the syringe by syringe variation.
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Yeah, the two syringes.
The caliper can lock, but I still can't seem to find the right place.

Seriously who makes syringes so different? It's stupid!
We should invent a pen that can dose in 0.25 units at a time, and do drops too.
Or a combined pump and meter like the libre. :D just dreaming over here! :smuggrin:


She's down to 137 +9, I've been feeding +2, +5 and +9.
It seems feeding to get the numbers down, only applies to those doing drop doses? But it has been working for her more than a couple times now.
@tiffmaxee does your gut still stay failed reduction? Or should I try keeping feeding more often, focus on giving the exact same amount and shooting shoulder instead of scruff?

:banghead: why did I change more than one thing? :nailbiting:
 
SashaV said:
@tiffmaxee I guess we can cancel the failed reduction? It sure did take her a lot of time to adjust!
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Sure did. Can you say unpredictable? what actually it's 7 cycles and we usually say a bounce clears in 6 so perhaps not that off. Guess someone tok the threat seriously.
 
tiffmaxee said:
Sure did. Can you say unpredictable? what actually it's 7 cycles and we usually say a bounce clears in 6 so perhaps not that off. Guess someone tok the threat seriously.
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I've had this feeling a long time! That she's just very slow at settling down. Not a big food bump either, I might have an interesting night ahead of me :rolleyes::oops:
But I shot green Elise! Green! That's been a loooooooong time ago since the last green.
I better get some sleep while I can. Saving the cake for later :p
 
SashaV said:
Not too far though! Either way! Very important detail :D:p

Just left her some 7% carbs, and it's +3 in a sec, she might do a nosedive +5 so I better get some sleep in while I can :joyful:
I'm almost excited about potentially having a PJ party! :woot:
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I'm excited with you!
 
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