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Miles & Tillie Mom

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Hi everyone,

I'm a cat mom of Tillie, a nine yr old dilute tortie (with major "Tortie-tude") and Miles, a prideful yet very affectionate six yr old russian blue mix.

Till now, both Tillie and Miles have been in blessedly good health. But in late November Miles' sudden lethargy and complete loss of appetite was frightening and an obvious indication of serious illness. I rushed him to the nearest veterinary hospital only ten minutes away but due to Covid, all I could do was drop him off with a technician in the parking lot. I felt physically ill driving away without him, leaving him in the hands of strangers and not knowing what was wrong or if he'd even survive. The thought of him passing away without being there to hold and love him was almost more than I could bear.

The hospital was so overloaded (right after the Thanksgiving holiday) it was almost ten hours before I could get any information about Miles' condition. Finally, I learned he was still alive and stable but would require a number of tests to determine the cause of his symptoms. Three days later, Miles was released into my care with a diagnosis of feline diabetes, a starter kit of vetsulin supplies and scant information on how to even administer his insulin.

2 1/2 weeks and a multitude of youtube videos later, I'm starting to get the hang of the injections but it has been a very steep learning curve. Miles is better but not even close to his previous energy level. He's developed some odd behaviors that are a source of constant concern and frustration because I feel if only I knew how to interpret them I could help him more. I'm more than a little overwhelmed and I've clearly got so much more to learn with Miles' health and welfare hanging in the balance. I'm feeling a bit of relief tonight and very grateful to have found this online feline diabetes community and it's massive brain trust of information and experience. Thank you for being here. ((( )))
 
Hi, I am also new to the site!
I'm very glad Miles is okay, and that you found your way to this forum. I was extremely nervous after the vet said they wanted to run bloodwork and Moo Moo was in the office for 45 minutes, I couldn't imagine what you went through for three days. It's good to hear that he is doing better, and soon you'll figure out the odd behaviors/low energy levels. From what I have read, everything about this is a learning curve. Stay strong, and stay safe!
 
Hi and welcome, you couldn't have landed in a better place

How many units of Vetsulin are you giving Miles?
What odd behaviors are you talking about?

Are you home testing Miles?
It's the only way to keep him safe
Most of us use human meter from Walmart The Relion Prime
Its 9 dollars.
Test strips are 17.88 for 100 strips
You would need 26 or 28 gauge lancets
Most of us test freehand just using the lancet
Some use the lancing device.
I like to use just the lancets, I can see exactly where I'm poking
Cotton balls to put behind the ear just in case you poke your finger

Then press gently on the ear to stop the bleeding 10-20 seconds or so
So what did they due for him that he was in the hospital for 3 days

About Vetsulin, it's not the best insulin for cat's, it's mainly for dogs
It's a harsh insulin and drops their BG fast, that's why you should be home testing
to see how it affects Miles .

Most of us here use Lantus it's a much more gentle insulin and will usually last for
12 hours.
Vetsulin usually only lasts for about 8 hours


You can use Vetsulin to see how it goes but I really would start home testing
Lantus is expensive in the US so most of us but the Solostar Pens 5 pack and will usually last a year. 164.99 for 5 pens
We use syringes U-100 for Lantus and put the syringe in the little grey rubber
stopper and draw out the insulin .
We use syringes with half unit markings because we increase or decrease by
0.25 units at a time. The half unit syringes make it easier to do this
 
Always aim for the sweet spot warm the ears up first, you can put rice in a sock and put it in the microwave, test it on the inside of your wrist to be sure it's not to hot, like you would test a babies bottle. You can fill a pill bottle with warm water and roll it on the ears also
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6. As the ears get used to bleeding and grow more capilares, it gets easier to get the amount of blood you need on the first try. If she won’t stand still, you can get the blood onto a clean finger nail and test from there
 
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Hi everyone,

I'm a cat mom of Tillie, a nine yr old dilute tortie (with major "Tortie-tude") and Miles, a prideful yet very affectionate six yr old russian blue mix.

Till now, both Tillie and Miles have been in blessedly good health. But in late November Miles' sudden lethargy and complete loss of appetite was frightening and an obvious indication of serious illness. I rushed him to the nearest veterinary hospital only ten minutes away but due to Covid, all I could do was drop him off with a technician in the parking lot. I felt physically ill driving away without him, leaving him in the hands of strangers and not knowing what was wrong or if he'd even survive. The thought of him passing away without being there to hold and love him was almost more than I could bear.

The hospital was so overloaded (right after the Thanksgiving holiday) it was almost ten hours before I could get any information about Miles' condition. Finally, I learned he was still alive and stable but would require a number of tests to determine the cause of his symptoms. Three days later, Miles was released into my care with a diagnosis of feline diabetes, a starter kit of vetsulin supplies and scant information on how to even administer his insulin.

2 1/2 weeks and a multitude of youtube videos later, I'm starting to get the hang of the injections but it has been a very steep learning curve. Miles is better but not even close to his previous energy level. He's developed some odd behaviors that are a source of constant concern and frustration because I feel if only I knew how to interpret them I could help him more. I'm more than a little overwhelmed and I've clearly got so much more to learn with Miles' health and welfare hanging in the balance. I'm feeling a bit of relief tonight and very grateful to have found this online feline diabetes community and it's massive brain trust of information and experience. Thank you for being here. ((( )))
please just test his glucose bi-weekly to weekly and make sure its not keto. Good lick. so sweet they are
 
please just test his glucose bi-weekly to weekly and make sure its not keto. Good lick. so sweet they are
This is not correct. Glucose levels should be tested before every insulin dose to see it is safe to give the dose and again during the cycle to see how low the dose is taking the cat.

Here is the link to the beginners guide to vetsulin. Make sure you feed a meal 30 minutes before you give the insulin.
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/beginners-guide-to-caninsulin-vetsulin.231587/
 
Hi Jess, and welcome to yourself and Ralphie.

I took my vets advice.
Some vets give good advice. Some, not so good.

Some vets advocate only minimal testing, some vets are completely against any home testing of a cat's blood glucose levels. However, I would bet the farm that if any of them had a diabetic child they would never consider giving insulin to that child before checking its blood glucose levels first to make sure it was safe to do so. They would also check to make sure that the size of the dose was safe and didn't take the child's blood glucose levels too low.


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Hi Jess, and welcome to yourself and Ralphie.


Some vets give good advice. Some, not so good.

Some vets advocate only minimal testing, some vets are completely against any home testing of a cat's blood glucose levels. However, I would bet the farm that if any of them had a diabetic child they would never consider giving insulin to that child before checking its blood glucose levels first to make sure it was safe to do so. They would also check to make sure that the size of the dose was safe and didn't take the child's blood glucose levels too low.


Mogs
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He was lethargic the first diagnosis. My vet saved him. They took him during the day and we took him at night until we could get his levels right. I then started going weekly for checks, then monthly. I would have invested in an income kit but didn’t feel it was necessary form the advice I received and information I researched. It wasn’t only the vet that didn’t recommend. I just miss him and unfortunately he got very sick within days and during that time I did not give insulin. I was told and researched when in doubt do not give. I had him in the vet day two his liver went as well. It was devastating. If I ever have another animal that is diabetic I may test at home. You think you do everything right. I mean just three days before he as in and they did his blood tests and yearly level work and it was fine. This all happened like over night. I trust our vet and listen to their advice. I wasn’t told not to get a home tester I wasn’t sure pushed to get one either. Just upset and hope I did the right things by him. Its hard
 
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