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Hope that makes sense Who did you want to look at your sheet?

ALSO Start a new thread with "Need help with increase dosage" add a ? that way it will get our attention

HOPE THIS HELPS

BUT I gotta say its hard to give advice with so little data. Is there any way you can get some test in between AM and PM?
Thank you for explaining the @name. I was going to ask @Deb & Wink since she was the one who suggested the last increase. I was only able to get 1 reading today between am and pm. I teach and started back today. He is on a 7am and 7pm schedule this week but will go a little earlier next week since the kids will be coming back to school. If I start a new thread, how will Deb or anyone else know what we’ve been doing the past few days?
 
Thank you for explaining the @name. I was going to ask @Deb & Wink since she was the one who suggested the last increase. I was only able to get 1 reading today between am and pm. I teach and started back today. He is on a 7am and 7pm schedule this week but will go a little earlier next week since the kids will be coming back to school. If I start a new thread, how will Deb or anyone else know what we’ve been doing the past few days?
You just link this thread from your task bar and state its continued.
 
Thank you for explaining the @name. I was going to ask @Deb & Wink since she was the one who suggested the last increase. I was only able to get 1 reading today between am and pm. I teach and started back today. He is on a 7am and 7pm schedule this week but will go a little earlier next week since the kids will be coming back to school. If I start a new thread, how will Deb or anyone else know what we’ve been doing the past few days?
Can't believe they're actually sending kids back to school right now! :eek:
I do think from the looks of it he's due for an increase, but hopefully Deb will be around this evening to confirm. She's really good at seeing things on the spreadsheets I overlook. :D
 
If I start a new thread, how will Deb or anyone else know what we’ve been doing the past few days?
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Felix is probably ready for an increase. Should I go to 1?
Yes, I do think that Felix is ready for an increase in dose. Up to 1U please. You'll probably want to be around to monitor on the dose increase. So if that means waiting until tomorrow night, 7/29 then wait.

He's not getting out of the yellow BG ranges during the cycle. Of course, it's always possible that Felix is dropping lower earlier in the cycle, now that you are not there to test him during the AM cycle. It's also possible that Felix is still clearing the bounce. But I don't think either of those situations are happening right now.

You want Felix back down into the blue number ranges again.

Would it be possible for you to test later in the PM cycle, than that +2 test? If you are one of those people that have a hard time falling back to sleep, that might not work for you. Some people set an alarm. I did, when Wink was running in really low numbers, under 70-80.

The other possibility is to shift your shot schedule to meet your new work schedule better. So for instance if you test, feed, shoot at 6 am and 6 pm now, switch that to 5 am and 5 pm. Try to get one more BG test in, before you leave for work. Find what works for you, these are only suggestions remember.
 
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Yes, I do think that Felix is ready for an increase in dose. Up to 1U please. You'll probably want to be around to monitor on the dose increase. So if that means waiting until tomorrow night, 7/29 then wait.

He's not getting out of the yellow BG ranges during the cycle. Of course, it's always possible that Felix is dropping lower earlier in the cycle, now that you are not there to test him during the AM cycle. It's also possible that Felix is still clearing the bounce. But I don't think either of those situations are happening right now.

You want Felix back down into the blue number ranges again.

Would it be possible for you to test later in the PM cycle, than that +2 test? If you are one of those people that have a hard time falling back to sleep, that might not work for you. Some people set an alarm. I did, when Wink was running in really low numbers, under 70-80.

The other possibility is to shift your shot schedule to meet your new work schedule better. So for instance if you test, feed, shoot at 6 am and 6 pm now, switch that to 5 am and 5 pm. Try to get one more BG test in, before you leave for work. Find what works for you, these are only suggestions remember.
@Deb & Wink thanks! We will gradually back him up so I can get something past +2 after his dose in the evening. If I do 5am, should I try to get one before leaving for work around 7:15 in the morning or just focus on getting one before I go to sleep?
 
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thanks! We will gradually back him up so I can get something past +2 after his dose in the evening. If I do 5am, should I try to get one before leaving for work around 7:15 in the morning or just focus on getting one before I go to sleep?
I would suggest you do get another one before you leave for work.
What a cutie Felix is
 
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thanks! We will gradually back him up so I can get something past +2 after his dose in the evening. If I do 5am, should I try to get one before leaving for work around 7:15 in the morning or just focus on getting one before I go to sleep?
A morning test also please. Before you leave for work.

Each cycle (a cycle is basically 12 hours, so 2 cycles in a 24 hour period) has it's own quirks and can be different. So you want to test in both cycles.
 
@Deb & Wink
We have given the last increase amount of 1 unit am and pm for three days. Felix has been getting the mini-meals as suggested. We are noticing a drop at +8. This is when he is given his mini meal (no other time to give bc of work and an auto feeder will not work with wet food. At this time, we are unaware of ANY hard food that would satisfy his diabetic and stomach issue needs. As you can see on the spreadsheet his PMPS is pretty high. Could his mini-meal be contributing to this high PMPS? Do you suggest keeping him at 1 unit (since we have seen a few blue numbers during the day and maybe replacing his mini-meal with a few purebite treats?
 
an auto feeder will not work with wet food
Yes, you can use the auto feeder with wet food. Depending on the auto feeder, you can put ice packs under the compartment with the food. If no space for ice packs, you can make "frozen hockey pucks", small portions of the wet food that would fit in the compartments.

maybe replacing his mini-meal with a few purebite treats
Instead of replacing the mini-meal with a few Purebite treats, try the wet food in the auto feeder for a few days instead. Wet food won't go bad that quickly. There are plenty of cats that graze, and come back for hours before they have finished off their wet food.

As you can see on the spreadsheet his PMPS is pretty high. Could his mini-meal be contributing to this high PMPS?
The pre-shot tests are the last ones to come down. It's the mid-cycle nadirs that you want to see, to know what the dose adjustments should be.
Feeding the mini-meal after the middle of the cycle, after about +6, could be part of the reason for the higher pre-shot in the evening. So see if you can shift that meal to earlier. If food is fed after the insulin is "used up" the food will simply raise the BG levels higher later in the cycle.

It could be that the insulin simply doesn't last long enough for Felix. That can happen for many reasons, only 1 of which is the food. Cats are never the same from day to day. More active one day, sleeping more another day. It makes managing feline diabetes challenging.

Some cats rise significantly in the last 30-60 minutes of the cycle. The only way to find that out, would be to try and test at that time. The +11, +11.5.

It will also be useful if you could get at least 1 more PM cycle test, every day, before you head off to sleep is a good time.

It's hard to "read between the lines" looking at the SS, but it looks to me like Felix is dropping lower in the AM cycle, before the +8 when you are able to get a test. Then, he is bouncing up from those low blues, because his body isn't used to those numbers. It would probably be ok to increase the dose to 1.25U. But please monitor that dose increase with a couple more tests. For several cycles, please.
 
Hi I was doing a search and found this about auto feeders and wet food posted by some members , hope it helps. This is what one member said I purchased the Pet Safe 5 compartment auto feeder to prevent the middle of the night awakenings for food. There is a small compartment inside for an ice pack. I put wet food in two of the compartments at night and place a large ice pack on top of the feeder to help keep it chilled. Some here freeze the wet food and place in the feeder so it takes a while to defrost at a later time
 
Here is another suggestion I found when I did a search on this forum. There are lots of people here that use the PetSafe 5 auto-feeder....it allows you to program up to 5 meals and works fine with wet food!!

You can put an ice cube in with the food to help keep it cool and fresh....and then when the compartment opens, you've already added extra water to the food! (which we recommend anyway)
 
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Yes, you can use the auto feeder with wet food. Depending on the auto feeder, you can put ice packs under the compartment with the food. If no space for ice packs, you can make "frozen hockey pucks", small portions of the wet food that would fit in the compartments.


Instead of replacing the mini-meal with a few Purebite treats, try the wet food in the auto feeder for a few days instead. Wet food won't go bad that quickly. There are plenty of cats that graze, and come back for hours before they have finished off their wet food.


The pre-shot tests are the last ones to come down. It's the mid-cycle nadirs that you want to see, to know what the dose adjustments should be.
Feeding the mini-meal after the middle of the cycle, after about +6, could be part of the reason for the higher pre-shot in the evening. So see if you can shift that meal to earlier. If food is fed after the insulin is "used up" the food will simply raise the BG levels higher later in the cycle.

It could be that the insulin simply doesn't last long enough for Felix. That can happen for many reasons, only 1 of which is the food. Cats are never the same from day to day. More active one day, sleeping more another day. It makes managing feline diabetes challenging.

Some cats rise significantly in the last 30-60 minutes of the cycle. The only way to find that out, would be to try and test at that time. The +11, +11.5.

It will also be useful if you could get at least 1 more PM cycle test, every day, before you head off to sleep is a good time.

It's hard to "read between the lines" looking at the SS, but it looks to me like Felix is dropping lower in the AM cycle, before the +8 when you are able to get a test. Then, he is bouncing up from those low blues, because his body isn't used to those numbers. It would probably be ok to increase the dose to 1.25U. But please monitor that dose increase with a couple more tests. For several cycles, please.
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Thank you. I had no idea they made such a thing but I’ve also never been in a position to look :bookworm: I see @Diane Tyler's Mom has added some info regarding that. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I will order something immediately and hopefully it’ll be here Monday for use starting Tuesday unless I luck up with a Sunday delivery. His new “schedule” will start Monday with new times and be much earlier so I should be able to get a test in before going to work, maybe 1 close to +10 or + 11 and a couple before going to bed. Y’all rock as I’m still learning...
 
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Thank you. I had no idea they made such a thing but I’ve also never been in a position to look :bookworm: I see @Diane Tyler's Mom has added some info regarding that. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I will order something immediately and hopefully it’ll be here Monday for use starting Tuesday unless I luck up with a Sunday delivery. His new “schedule” will start Monday with new times and be much earlier so I should be able to get a test in before going to work, maybe 1 close to +10 or + 11 and a couple before going to bed. Y’all rock as I’m still learning...
You are welcome :cat:
 
Glad the info about wet food being ok for an automatic feeder was helpful. Hope yours arrives on time so you get to start to use it before your new schedule kicks in.

When threads get long, like this one, it's a good idea to start a new thread and link the old one into the new one.

Would you please do that for us when you get a chance?

@Diane Tyler's Mom is great at posting research on products.:bookworm: We are lucky to have her helping out here.:bighug:
 
Glad the info about wet food being ok for an automatic feeder was helpful. Hope yours arrives on time so you get to start to use it before your new schedule kicks in.

When threads get long, like this one, it's a good idea to start a new thread and link the old one into the new one.

Would you please do that for us when you get a chance?

@Diane Tyler's Mom is great at posting research on products.:bookworm: We are lucky to have her helping out here.:bighug:
Aww thank you Deb I appreciate it :bighug::bighug:
 
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