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Bobo will only drink from the water fountain in the kitchen and will not touch any of the water bowls I have for Minnie inside and outside. I mean he’ll come back up and inside to drink from the fountain instead of going for his sister’s bowl that is 2 steps from him :rolleyes:
 
I had to balance heart and kidneys for a while with Neko. For the longest time it was just mild hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, and mild kidney disease and I didn't do anything but make sure food was low phosphorus and add plenty of water to the food. Then the kidneys got worse, the vet suggested adding fluids, which led to a heart failure incident and a heart block/myocarditis diagnosis. The main symptom was lack of appetite. At the same time she got a small cell lymphoma diagnosis, but I digress. That just a added an abdominal ultrasound to the bill with the echocardiogram. :rolleyes: Treating the heart without damaging kidneys or vice versa, is a balancing act. Heart beats kidneys - always. Neko went on pimomedan (Vetmedin) and chlopidogrel (Plavix) for her heart. She was already on benazapril for her kidneys - sometimes heart diagnosis get that too. With luck and a strong willed cat, Neko got over her heart incident. The vets were amazed. Fluids were completely stopped.

At this point I had an internal medicine vet and cardiologist vet working tag team to find the right combination to balance heart and kidneys. We did try adding a very small amount of fluids back after several months, and unfortunately got another failure incident. Which I found out at home by seeing her resting heart rate (doesn't have to be sleeping), went from 20-22 to 26. It was that subtle a change. She did get some bolus Lasix (furosemide) at the vet, and a micro dose to go home with. It helped the heart, hurt the kidneys.

Sorry for the long story - I am glad you are getting an echo, hopefully buy someone with a cardiology specialty. It makes a big difference.
 
I had to balance heart and kidneys for a while with Neko. For the longest time it was just mild hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, and mild kidney disease and I didn't do anything but make sure food was low phosphorus and add plenty of water to the food. Then the kidneys got worse, the vet suggested adding fluids, which led to a heart failure incident and a heart block/myocarditis diagnosis. The main symptom was lack of appetite. At the same time she got a small cell lymphoma diagnosis, but I digress. That just a added an abdominal ultrasound to the bill with the echocardiogram. :rolleyes: Treating the heart without damaging kidneys or vice versa, is a balancing act. Heart beats kidneys - always. Neko went on pimomedan (Vetmedin) and chlopidogrel (Plavix) for her heart. She was already on benazapril for her kidneys - sometimes heart diagnosis get that too. With luck and a strong willed cat, Neko got over her heart incident. The vets were amazed. Fluids were completely stopped.

At this point I had an internal medicine vet and cardiologist vet working tag team to find the right combination to balance heart and kidneys. We did try adding a very small amount of fluids back after several months, and unfortunately got another failure incident. Which I found out at home by seeing her resting heart rate (doesn't have to be sleeping), went from 20-22 to 26. It was that subtle a change. She did get some bolus Lasix (furosemide) at the vet, and a micro dose to go home with. It helped the heart, hurt the kidneys.

Sorry for the long story - I am glad you are getting an echo, hopefully buy someone with a cardiology specialty. It makes a big difference.
Minnie is on all those heart meds too, but she doesn’t have the kidney issues which I’m sure explain the high doses of furosimide for the last month or so.

thank you Wendy! I’m sure she’ll feel better hearing that it’s manageable :cat:
 
I would need to see her entire panel to tell you anything on the labs but, if her creatinine is 3, it’s way too soon to start fluids even in a cat with no heart issues.

It is definitely a balancing act between heart and kidneys and you might find that you will not be able to give her fluids at home even as her CKD progresses. Just keep adding water to her food and making water available to her to let her keep up as much as she can on her own.
 
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