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The Mum

The Mum

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I just did a quick Google search on poop "balls" vs. "turds". It seems that poop "balls" are a side affect of FD. Should I be concerned and is there anything I should be doing? Just noticed this yesterday. Her water intake seems to have slowed down over the last few days. Was drinking 2, 16 oz. a day. Now down to less than 1. I am adding a little water to her food.
Also, bumping insulin to 3 units starting tonight.
 
Becky I can't give you any advice on dosing, but if you are going to increase Gracie's dose to 3 units you should be prepared to get a few tests in tonight, you haven't done any AMPS the last 4 days and really no testing after her PMPS, just looking out for your kitty to be safe What was her AMPS this morning, it's not filled in in you SS.
It's very important to keep the SS up to date so the members can take a look at it in cade you need help
 
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Switching to an all wet diet can cause your cat to poop less, but if you also notice her straining in the litterbox or going infrequently, then it could also be a sign she’s constipated, which also seems to be common with some wet foods. Miralax works great for my girl. It’s basically “dose until effective”. For my cat, 1/8 tsp once a day works, other people do 1/8 tsp twice a day, 1/4 tsp once a day, etc. I do think it’s probably better to start low and then increase if you don’t see results, because too much can cause things to be a bit too soft.

Drinking less water is a great sign :cat: Adding water to Gracie’s food is a good idea, especially if you start giving her Miralax because it works by drawing water into the colon to soften the stool
 
You can also use plain pumpkin if she's constipated, just a tablespoon twice a day can help.
 
I happened by the health forum and saw your post. I have a few thoughts, having used Lantus for almost 3 years now.

At your current dose, we only adjust up or down by 0.25u. Jumping up a full unit is unsafe and dangerous. We also dose based on how low the dose is taking the kitty, which is where the data you collect comes in handy. You are new to diagnosis, using an AT2, and are just started out seeing how Lantus affects your cat. At the moment, it seems like there is some bouncing occurring. It is a natural reaction, where the liver releases stored glycogen when it gets to numbers they aren't used to, or when BG numbers drop drastically. Bounces usually take 6 cycles to clear.

You are noting SLGS in your SS. That would mean holding the dose for a week, then doing a curve to see whether you need to adjust the dose. The SLGS method has safety measures built in place to help caregivers administer and manage their kitty's insulin needs. Please read them again if you haven't already.
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...-low-go-slow-slgs-tight-regulation-tr.210110/

Jumping up by 1u in dose is not safe, I would ask you to please reconsider for the safety of your cat, not doing this. Just my 2 cents.

There are many experienced Lantus members in the subforum, please let us help you.
 
I have been advised by my vet to go to 3 units for a week and then do a curve. I will do some random testing tomorrow and try to get an AMPS tomorrow.
 
360 at 11:01. About 1 hour 50 minutes since last feed. 3 units lantus at 9:05 pm. She has been kind of wonky, running/sprinting around the house. Can someone share feed this to the Lantus subform?
 
That's a huge increase in insulin dose from 2 to 3 units.
Hope you haven't bypassed your cats appropriate dose.
Do you have your hypo tool kit prepared?
Have you printed out the Hypo instructions and read them thoroughly to realize what the symptoms of Hypo are?

In an emergency
Please get a pre-shot (PS) blood glucose test with every 12 hour cycle. We highly recommend you do this. So you know if your cats BG numbers are high enough to give the insulin.

Once you give the insulin, you can't take it back out.
Was 2U the starting dose from your vet?
What kind of food are you feeding?
No, we can't share or post this over on the Lantus forum. You have to do that yourself.
 
Deb & Wink said:
That's a huge increase in insulin dose from 2 to 3 units.
Hope you haven't bypassed your cats appropriate dose.
Do you have your hypo tool kit prepared?
Have you printed out the Hypo instructions and read them thoroughly to realize what the symptoms of Hypo are?

In an emergency
Please get a pre-shot (PS) blood glucose test with every 12 hour cycle. We highly recommend you do this. So you know if your cats BG numbers are high enough to give the insulin.

Once you give the insulin, you can't take it back out.
Was 2U the starting dose from your vet?
What kind of food are you feeding?
No, we can't share or post this over on the Lantus forum. You have to do that yourself.
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I so agree with everything you are saying Deb, A number of members have told her how important it is to always get a pre shot test, I mentioned this in #3 to her.
I don't think she realizes how important this is, I don't want to sound rude I'm just worried about her cat
 
The Mum said:
360 at 11:01. About 1 hour 50 minutes since last feed. 3 units lantus at 9:05 pm. She has been kind of wonky, running/sprinting around the house. Can someone share feed this to the Lantus subform?
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Becky I see you didn't do a pre shot for tonight when you gave the 3 units and on your
spreadsheet you have @+2-310, then here you say you shot lantus at 9:05 and at 11:01 she was 360 so that is @+2 (2 hours after you gave insulin) so which is the BG 310 which is on your spreadsheet or the 360 which you stated above
You said 360 bg at 11:01 so when was that, you can't put down the hour, you need to
do example
+2 is 2 hours after giving insulin
+3 is 3 hours after giving insulin
+4 is 4 ditto
+5 is 5 ditto
and so on
I really hope you do another test tonight to make sure Gracie is safe
Don't want to sound pushy at all but like everyone has told you it's very important to always do a pre shot both am and pm to know if your cats BG is high enough to give her insulin and get some more testing for both cycles.
We just don't want anything awful to happen to your cat
 
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Deb & Wink said:
That's a huge increase in insulin dose from 2 to 3 units.
Hope you haven't bypassed your cats appropriate dose.
Do you have your hypo tool kit prepared?
Have you printed out the Hypo instructions and read them thoroughly to realize what the symptoms of Hypo are?

In an emergency
Please get a pre-shot (PS) blood glucose test with every 12 hour cycle. We highly recommend you do this. So you know if your cats BG numbers are high enough to give the insulin.

Once you give the insulin, you can't take it back out.
Was 2U the starting dose from your vet?
What kind of food are you feeding?
No, we can't share or post this over on the Lantus forum. You have to do that yourself.
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Hey Deb don't mean to hijack her thread but just wanted to tell you how sorry I am about the passing of all you kitties and Cubbie. Wink was such a handsome boy
 
Diane, we do the best we can when we suggest things and comment on people's posts. They may not have read through what was said. Or they are already busy and overwhelmed and can't stand to read anything else from us. Or maybe they haven't set up there user profile to get alerts via email when there are replies to their posts.

I know "The Mum" is also a member of our sister facebook group. I helped her here on the FDMB back on 1/28/20 when she was doing her first curve and she did not have a spreadsheet setup yet, or anything in her signature. She told us she had a 46 blood glucose reading and I and other members were directing her to feed her kitty and retest. She did not understand the seriousness of the situation.

Turned out she misread the meter and the actual number was 461. Stayed with her until later in the evening to reassure her and watch the PM cycle BG readings. Because that is something we do. Pajama parties and sitting around in our bathrobes, making sure new members are ok. ;)

We are strangers to many new members and need to earn their trust. It's her choice to follow her vet's advice, but I wish she had read what we posted here first, before giving the 3 U of Lantus.

Time will tell if everything will be ok. Lantus "depot" storage area takes about 6 cycles to fill, so she may not see the full effects of that dose increase for a few days. Here's hoping she doesn't end up rushing her cat to 24 hour emergency vet.

There are a few 24 hour emergency vets near her. Maine Veterinary Medical Center https://www.mvmc.vet/
In Portsmouth NH. Veterinary Emergency Critical Care http://www.veccnh.com/
Port City Vet https://portcity.ethosvet.com/
The NH locations, especially VECCNH have better reviews.

Hope she bookmarks these on her smartphone.

We just have to hope her cat doesn't end up being a heart breaker, like that new member with her kitten Savannah. If only she had found us a day sooner, we probably could have helped.
p.s. She lives about 1 hour north of where I live. She is in Maine.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Diane, we do the best we can when we suggest things and comment on people's posts. They may not have read through what was said. Or they are already busy and overwhelmed and can't stand to read anything else from us. Or maybe they haven't set up there user profile to get alerts via email when there are replies to their posts.

I know "The Mum" is also a member of our sister facebook group. I helped her here on the FDMB back on 1/28/20 when she was doing her first curve and she did not have a spreadsheet setup yet, or anything in her signature. She told us she had a 46 blood glucose reading and I and other members were directing her to feed her kitty and retest. She did not understand the seriousness of the situation.

Turned out she misread the meter and the actual number was 461. Stayed with her until later in the evening to reassure her and watch the PM cycle BG readings. Because that is something we do. Pajama parties and sitting around in our bathrobes, making sure new members are ok. ;)

We are strangers to many new members and need to earn their trust. It's her choice to follow her vet's advice, but I wish she had read what we posted here first, before giving the 3 U of Lantus.

Time will tell if everything will be ok. Lantus "depot" storage area takes about 6 cycles to fill, so she may not see the full effects of that dose increase for a few days. Here's hoping she doesn't end up rushing her cat to 24 hour emergency vet.

There are a few 24 hour emergency vets near her. Maine Veterinary Medical Center https://www.mvmc.vet/
In Portsmouth NH. Veterinary Emergency Critical Care http://www.veccnh.com/
Port City Vet https://portcity.ethosvet.com/
The NH locations, especially VECCNH have better reviews.

Hope she bookmarks these on her smartphone.

We just have to hope her cat doesn't end up being a heart breaker, like that new member with her kitten Savannah. If only she had found us a day sooner, we probably could have helped.
p.s. She lives about 1 hour north of where I live. She is in Maine.
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I remember seeing that she misread the meter and you staying up with her, you are all so awesome . I do remember Savannah, just heartbreaking,
I am such a fanatic when it comes to testing Tyler most of the time I don't go to bed until 3 am eastern time , I'm in N.J. when I saw that The Mum said Gracie was sound asleep I just prayed that she was going to be OK through the night. I wouldn't be able to go to sleep not knowing if Tyler was safe. He is doing so well on lantus, I love it, again I'm so sorry about the passing of all your kitties and Cubbie, Wink was such a handsome boy
 
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