? 11/19/19 Charlotte PMPS 300; +2.5 210; +4.5 181 bouncing again ??

It'a a bounce that's breaking. With a bounce, the numbers go up. When a bounce breaks, they go down. If numbers are lower than your +12, I would either stall and re-test if you can. Otherwise, you could shoot a token dose or skip.
 
So.. I can wait 45 minutes and recheck. If she is going up by then, ok with 1 unit?? She would be a half hour late. I could check her at almost +1 amps but then I’d have to leave for work. I hold off on feeding til I recheck , correct? She is very talkative at the moment. Thanks
 
Did you shoot? Feed?
As Sienne said, it looks like she is clearing the bounce, shooting when she is clearing the bounce can lead to quite a bit of downward movement when you shoot.

if you haven't shot, test her again now and lets see where she is at.
 
Just saw the update on SS for some reason it wasn't updating at my end.

I would get them to feed her a little more if you think she will eat for them.

Perhaps +1 +3 +5,
As they are not able to test her, I would get them to mix the snacks 50/50 with the LC and pate and gravy.
Does that make sense?
 
Gill & George said:
Just saw the update on SS for some reason it wasn't updating at my end.

I would get them to feed her a little more if you think she will eat for them.

Perhaps +1 +3 +5,
As they are not able to test her, I would get them to mix the snacks 50/50 with the LC and pate and gravy.
Does that make sense?
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Yes. I can check her BG at +1 then refeed with lc/mc mix then then my daughter can redo 2 hours later and then 3 hours after that. Mom can check in her and feed lc only at +8. Correct thinking??
 
Charlotte’s mom said:
Yes. I can check her BG at +1 then refeed with lc/mc mix then then my daughter can redo 2 hours later and then 3 hours after that. Mom can check in her and feed lc only at +8. Correct thinking??
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OK great I thought I remembered they weren't able to check BG.

If they can check BG and she starts to bounce, (her numbers zoom up) then they could revert to LC.
So how late did you shoot? You need to make a note of that on the SS too it's important info.
 
Gill & George said:
OK then stick to the original plan of increasing the carbs in his food, it might shorten the duration, making him a little higher this evening, but given the circumstances that's a better option.
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So I should still continue at the 1 unit tonight and maybe a few more days to see what is happening as apposed to increasing the dose, correct?
 
Charlotte’s mom said:
+1 122 @Gill & George Now what??!!
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This suggests she will have an active cycle.

As you cannot test and have to go to work.

I would give her some FF gravy lovers Squeeze some gravy out but also include some meat in it. Acouple of teaspoons perhaps.
Get your family to do the same at
+2 (gravy lovers)
+3(gravy lovers)
+4 (50/50mix
+5 (50/50)

It's probably overkill, but as they can't test better too high than too low. The high carb early on should abort the cycle.
 
I think I would shoot the 1u tonight, we usually hold a little longer than the 6 cycles when we start to see those green nadirs.

Charlotte bounced from those greens, and basically it would have been useful to see where she would have landed when that bounce cleared, which looks like this morning, had you been staying at home we could have seen if she made it back to green, but with work that wasn't possible.

What does the protocol say.
Increasing the dose:
  • Hold the dose for 3 - 5 days (6 - 10 consecutive cycles) if nadirs are less than 200 before increasing the dose by 0.25 unit.
    • if your cat is new to numbers under 200, it is recommended to hold the dose for at least 8-10 cycles before increasing.
    • when your cat starts to see nadirs under 100, hold the dose for at least 10 cycles before increasing.
  • Increase by 0.25 unit after 3 days (6 consecutive cycles) if nadirs are greater than 200, but less than 300.
  • Increase by 0.5 unit after 3 days (6 consecutive cycles) if nadirs are greater than 300.
So applying the protocol, we would definitely be holding the dose today and tonight. (tonight is cycle 10 on this dose)
And in these particular circumstances, I would like to see where she lands when the bounce clears, so I would probably hold tomorrow and tomorrow night as well, before re assessing.

Does that make sense?
 
Gill & George said:
This suggests she will have an active cycle.

As you cannot test and have to go to work.

I would give her some FF gravy lovers Squeeze some gravy out but also include some meat in it. Acouple of teaspoons perhaps.
Get your family to do the same at
+2 (gravy lovers)
+3(gravy lovers)
+4 (50/50mix
+5 (50/50)

It's probably overkill, but as they can't test better too high than too low. The high carb early on should abort the cycle.
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Ok. Thanks. I’ll post later to even though you’ll be asleep. Thanks for your
Gill & George said:
I think I would shoot the 1u tonight, we usually hold a little longer than the 6 cycles when we start to see those green nadirs.

Charlotte bounced from those greens, and basically it would have been useful to see where she would have landed when that bounce cleared, which looks like this morning, had you been staying at home we could have seen if she made it back to green, but with work that wasn't possible.

What does the protocol say.
Increasing the dose:
  • Hold the dose for 3 - 5 days (6 - 10 consecutive cycles) if nadirs are less than 200 before increasing the dose by 0.25 unit.
    • if your cat is new to numbers under 200, it is recommended to hold the dose for at least 8-10 cycles before increasing.
    • when your cat starts to see nadirs under 100, hold the dose for at least 10 cycles before increasing.
  • Increase by 0.25 unit after 3 days (6 consecutive cycles) if nadirs are greater than 200, but less than 300.
  • Increase by 0.5 unit after 3 days (6 consecutive cycles) if nadirs are greater than 300.
So applying the protocol, we would definitely be holding the dose today and tonight. (tonight is cycle 10 on this dose)
And in these particular circumstances, I would like to see where she lands when the bounce clears, so I would probably hold tomorrow and tomorrow night as well, before re assessing.

Does that make sense?
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it does! Thank you! :D
 
So... not sure what happened today with numbers bc I was at work. Her PMPS was 300. Not sure if she ate prior to taking that number as her food was still down before I got home. I gave her 1 unit so we will see what we get. Gave her some fluids and a cerenia injection as she didn’t eat much but again not sure if she ate before I got home. No ketones yesterday. She was happy to see me. No poop in box just the Urine from this morning. Can’t get a +1 bc had to get my daughter from ballet half an hour away. Next reading will be at +1.5 but I doubt I’ll see much of a change. I presume we will be bouncing now for the next few cycles. Ugh! We post again in half an hour or so.
 
Charlotte’s mom said:
+4.5 BG @ 181. Thoughts anyone?
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Most like Kelly not a Bo nice but rather we managed to abort the cycle this morning with the high carb.

That results in a high number at next PS because the duration is shortened causing the numbers to pop up at the end of the cycle. Particularly if she did eat some of that higher carb food at the end of the cycle.

'Bouncing'
Is when they shoot up and stay high

Clearing a bounce
Is when they start off high and suddenly drop.

So tonight if anything she was possibly ' clearing a bounce'
The reason I don't think that, is that she dropped as soon as she onset, and if she had started Bouncing' this morning we would have expected her to continue to bounce at least till tomorrow, so at onset tonight you would have seen her stay high.
 
Gill & George said:
Most like Kelly not a Bo nice but rather we managed to abort the cycle this morning with the high carb.

That results in a high number at next PS because the duration is shortened causing the numbers to pop up at the end of the cycle. Particularly if she did eat some of that higher carb food at the end of the cycle.

'Bouncing'
Is when they shoot up and stay high

Clearing a bounce
Is when they start off high and suddenly drop.

So tonight if anything she was possibly ' clearing a bounce'
The reason I don't think that, is that she dropped as soon as she onset, and if she had started Bouncing' this morning we would have expected her to continue to bounce at least till tomorrow, so at onset tonight you would have seen her stay high
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Thanks for the explanation. I overslept so I just took her reading which was 142, fed her and shot. She only ate so so for me. Ugh! Not sure if she is climbing or dropping so I guess I’ll be checking her this morning at +1.
 
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