10/29 Blaze amps 382 +5.6 126 +6.5 137 +9.5 113 PMPS 115/118 +1 116 +2 85 +3 70

Sarah and Blaze

Sarah and Blaze

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Good morning everyone:)

Blaze’s amps is 382, is this from the dose reduction yesterday morning? If so, should I hold the dose at 1.5U or does he need another increase?

Hope everyone has a good day:cat:
 
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Hi Sarah!

I believe that technically the cycle count starts over with the reduced dose yesterday, which would mean that you would stay at 1.5U for the time being. That said, he did have 3 days at 1.5U in relavitively high numbers prior to that, only hitting the blues a couple times, so he could probably use an increase soon. Were you planning on doing an increase yesterday before he surprised you with the blue pre-shot?
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Blaze’s amps is 382, is this from the dose reduction yesterday morning?
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I think what you are seeing here is a combination of a bounce and the depot draining. It may take a couple more cycles for you to start to see those lower numbers again.

If you look at the 6 cycles prior to the BCS, we don't see any green, so in theory you could have gone up in dose yesterday.
But...... I might have held that dose for a couple more cycles because to my eyes I am missing some data. My reasoning, the 156 that morning was her on her way up, so given how she drops I am pretty suspicious she was lower early on in the cycle, but obviously we don't know how much. She was alreaddy starting to drop that evening at +2 with that 324, suggesting that the cycle was likely to be active.

How are you fixed for testing over the next couple of days? If you are away at work during the day and limited availability for testing, I would wait for now before taking her up. Let the depot settle perhaps.
 
Gill & George said:
I think what you are seeing here is a combination of a bounce and the depot draining. It may take a couple more cycles for you to start to see those lower numbers again.

If you look at the 6 cycles prior to the BCS, we don't see any green, so in theory you could have gone up in dose yesterday.
But...... I might have held that dose for a couple more cycles because to my eyes I am missing some data. My reasoning, the 156 that morning was her on her way up, so given how she drops I am pretty suspicious she was lower early on in the cycle, but obviously we don't know how much. She was alreaddy starting to drop that evening at +2 with that 324, suggesting that the cycle was likely to be active.

How are you fixed for testing over the next couple of days? If you are away at work during the day and limited availability for testing, I would wait for now before taking her up. Let the depot settle perhaps.
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I work Monday through Thursday so I’m unable to test during the day while I’m at work. Sometimes I can make it home on my lunch for a +6, but I’m not able to do that every day. I typically can get a +1 in the morning before I leave for work but am usually not home until PMPS. And due to my early mornings for work, I’m not able to stay up late to test on work nights. I’ll give him a couple more days at 1.5U and if he doesn’t get into some lower numbers, maybe I will give an increase on Thursday night. I’m off work Friday Saturday Sunday.
 
Nan & Amber (GA) said:
Hi Sarah!

I believe that technically the cycle count starts over with the reduced dose yesterday, which would mean that you would stay at 1.5U for the time being. That said, he did have 3 days at 1.5U in relavitively high numbers prior to that, only hitting the blues a couple times, so he could probably use an increase soon. Were you planning on doing an increase yesterday before he surprised you with the blue pre-shot?
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Hi Nan!!

Ya he usually bounces for a few cycles after hitting blue and green numbers, I think the blue numbers on the evening of 10/26 triggered a bounce and then the blue numbers yesterday morning surprised me, so I have a BCS and now I’m wondering if he’s high because of the reduced dose yesterday morning. I will give him until Thursday on this dose maybe, and increase in the evening on Thursday when I can be home to monitor. Does that sound okay?
 
Gill & George said:
I remembered you saying last week about your work days.
Sounds like a plan, let the numbers guide you Blaze might have her own plans.:rolleyes:
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He definitely has his own plan and likes to keep me on my toes!:joyful: We’ll see if he comes down in the next couple of cycles. If not, increase for Blaze!:woot:
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
I will give him until Thursday on this dose maybe, and increase in the evening on Thursday when I can be home to monitor. Does that sound okay?
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That sounds good. I agree with Gill that Blaze might be sneaking a few lower numbers when you can't test, so best to do the increase in a few days (and see if he shows you a little more action during testing times in the meantime!).

I'm also going to throw something out for future pondering: my impression is that Blaze has a tendency to show his stuff on increases right around that sixth cycle. That means, with your schedule, that if you increase on Thursday night or Friday morning, you are often high all weekend and then get your first lower numbers Sunday, often Sunday night, when you are going back to work. Arrggh!

Anyway, what I'm wondering is whether it might be useful to do the dose increases a few cycles earlier, in hopes of catching the action when you can actually test. Not necessarily this week, I do think we need to let that 1.5U dose shake out a bit more. But something to think about in the future when you're strategizing managing Blaze's dose changes and your schedule constraints.
 
Nan & Amber (GA) said:
my impression is that Blaze has a tendency to show his stuff on increases right around that sixth cycle.
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Hmmm I'm not seeing that in the last ten days, I think he starts to get active on a dose after 2 to 3 cycles.
10/20 new dose of 1.25 at am cycle, by the second dose pm 10/20 he was back in green.

10/25 new dose in am cycle pm cycle dropped from red to yellow at +4, may well have gone lower later in that cycle. by morning of 10/26 he appeared to be bounce bouncing and by cycle 4 (pm cycle he was back in blue)
 
Yes, I think you're right, lately he's been a bit earlier than cycle 6, probably more like 4-5. But the main point was just that, if he needs a further dose increase (and that's a big if; I totally agree that with his enthusiastic bouncing, there could be lows hidden from view in the open areas of the spreadsheet), it may not be necessary to wait for the actual cycle where more intensive monitoring can happen. I think the numbers on 10/25 were more about a bounce breaking than the new dose, although the higher dose may have helped accelerate him down into greens. Other than that, I think the only time he's shown an apparent immediate response to a dose is on the evening of 10/7.

Again, this may all be moot. He doesn't seem to be bouncing too high off of the blues yesterday, maybe he's starting to get the hang of all of this and will start hanging out in lower numbers for longer soon!
 
Nan & Amber (GA) said:
That sounds good. I agree with Gill that Blaze might be sneaking a few lower numbers when you can't test, so best to do the increase in a few days (and see if he shows you a little more action during testing times in the meantime!).

I'm also going to throw something out for future pondering: my impression is that Blaze has a tendency to show his stuff on increases right around that sixth cycle. That means, with your schedule, that if you increase on Thursday night or Friday morning, you are often high all weekend and then get your first lower numbers Sunday, often Sunday night, when you are going back to work. Arrggh!

Anyway, what I'm wondering is whether it might be useful to do the dose increases a few cycles earlier, in hopes of catching the action when you can actually test. Not necessarily this week, I do think we need to let that 1.5U dose shake out a bit more. But something to think about in the future when you're strategizing managing Blaze's dose changes and your schedule constraints.
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I 100% agree with this and think it’s a great idea. He’s usually high every weekend when I increase his dose, and those are the times I can test more! So I think increasing on maybe Tuesday, night be better. I’m going to leave him on the 1.5U for another couple days like you said, possibly increase Thursday night or Friday morning, but if he needs another increase after that, I will try to plan it for Tuesday so I can catch more action and tests when I’m home for the weekend!
 
Gill & George said:
Hmmm I'm not seeing that in the last ten days, I think he starts to get active on a dose after 2 to 3 cycles.
10/20 new dose of 1.25 at am cycle, by the second dose pm 10/20 he was back in green.

10/25 new dose in am cycle pm cycle dropped from red to yellow at +4, may well have gone lower later in that cycle. by morning of 10/26 he appeared to be bounce bouncing and by cycle 4 (pm cycle he was back in blue)
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Nan & Amber (GA) said:
Yes, I think you're right, lately he's been a bit earlier than cycle 6, probably more like 4-5. But the main point was just that, if he needs a further dose increase (and that's a big if; I totally agree that with his enthusiastic bouncing, there could be lows hidden from view in the open areas of the spreadsheet), it may not be necessary to wait for the actual cycle where more intensive monitoring can happen. I think the numbers on 10/25 were more about a bounce breaking than the new dose, although the higher dose may have helped accelerate him down into greens. Other than that, I think the only time he's shown an apparent immediate response to a dose is on the evening of 10/7.

Again, this may all be moot. He doesn't seem to be bouncing too high off of the blues yesterday, maybe he's starting to get the hang of all of this and will start hanging out in lower numbers for longer soon!
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What does all this mean? Should I still hold this dose for another day or two? Sorry, still learning, especially when it comes to TR.
 
Sorry didn't mean to confuse. Yes I would hold, of you're not happy with nadirs come Wednesday night Thursday morning then take him up.

What I don't see the same as nan is the how long he's taking to show you the dose. I think if you took the dose up let's say Tuesday morning, based on recent data, it's likely you'll start to see movement as early as Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.

So given your schedule, I think that could prove unwise.
Patterns do change, so that is something you have to re evaluate
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
+5 is 126. Blaze doesn’t like us talking about an increase I guess :woot:
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Ha! Well, we already knew he likes to read his condo.

Gill & George said:
I think if you took the dose up let's say Tuesday morning, based on recent data, it's likely you'll start to see movement as early as Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.
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I wasn't actually thinking of pushing things that early, I was thinking more like trying Wednesday evening or Thursday morning increases. But this is a completely theoretical discussion at this point (in fact, it started off that way, we were never talking about doing something like this this week), so I'm not sure it's worth belaboring any more. Blaze may have other plans in any case.
 
Nan & Amber (GA) said:
Ha! Well, we already knew he likes to read his condo.



I wasn't actually thinking of pushing things that early, I was thinking more like trying Wednesday evening or Thursday morning increases. But this is a completely theoretical discussion at this point (in fact, it started off that way, we were never talking about doing something like this this week), so I'm not sure it's worth belaboring any more. Blaze may have other plans in any case.
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Blaze definitely has been reading the condo when I wasn’t looking and said NO to a possible dose increase! :joyful:
If he’s needing an increase next week, we will try to figure a better day to do that, so I see more action when I’m home, but Blaze is probably reading this too and will do the exact opposite of what we try to plan for!:facepalm:
 
Nan & Amber (GA) said:
Oh, yuck! Head colds are the worst.

Take care of yourself, Sarah. An afternoon snuggled up with Blaze sounds like just what the doctor ordered!
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He’s already on nurse duty!
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Well I have a pretty bad cold and had to leave work halfway through the day today so I will try to get some extra tests in since he’s in some nice numbers, that is if I’m not passed out from cold medicine :confused:
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Feel Better soon.
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View attachment 48738 He’s already on nurse duty!
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There's your little model again. Like the Halloween theme:)

I used to set my posts to self destruct to stop George reading them:p

Nan & Amber (GA) said:
Ha! Well, we already knew he likes to read his condo.

I wasn't actually thinking of pushing things that early, I was thinking more like trying Wednesday evening or Thursday morning increases. But this is a completely theoretical discussion at this point (in fact, it started off that way, we were never talking about doing something like this this week), so I'm not sure it's worth belaboring any more. Blaze may have other plans in any case.
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I disagree, it's always worth having a discussion and sharing different points of view. I might not be on the board when Sarah next posts, and I personally I think that taking the dose up midweek when she may not be able to monitor is risky. I wouldn't call it 'belaboring', this is a peer reviewed board after all so we are 'allowed' to disagree, I find your comment a little offensive (perhaps it wasn't intended that way/ but that's how it reads).
I do make the point that my comments are based on the patterns as I see them right now, and these patterns should be re evaluated. So sure, next week is a long time away and things may and will probably be different. But I felt it was important for Sarah to understand my thought process.

Sure the drop on the evening of october 25 might have been a bounce clearing, but combine that with a dose starting to show it's worth and you can end up in some exciting territory. Probably not a problem if you are home but if you have to leave for work it's trickier. I just want to keep Blaze safe. When I look at the SS, I can see that something is shifting, we are seeing those bounces clearing sooner, and more time being spent in blue, so perhaps we are getting close to a good dose???
 
Oh Sarah! He's adorable! What a sweetie to lay next to you when you're feeling poorly. I sure hope that cold gets better soon...I hate the cold worst than anything!

Blaze seems like he's liking all the colors isn't he? Some additional tests will tell the tale of how low this dose is taking him. Remember you can't tell so much about the AMs's and PM's because they're typically the highest numbers of the day.

Feel better, Sarah!:bighug::bighug:
 
I'm sorry, Gill, I wasn't trying to shut down the discussion, I was mostly talking to myself about not really wanting to continue with this. In particular, I did not think it made much sense to make detailed plans for dose changes a week in advance, and yet I'd just made a comment about that very thing. I did that because I felt like I'd been misunderstood, but I was aware that doing so could help push the discussion into the weeds. I should not have used the term "belaboring," or else I should have been more clear about the targets (myself and my participation in discussion of these points rather than the whole discussion).
 
It does look to me like Blaze is clearing bounces a bit more quickly.

As for the discussion, I liked it! Having you both present a differing point of view can help Sarah, and anyone else who's reading along, think about these issues. There have been many times I've theorized in someone's condo and my theory of the day didn't apply that particular day but it was very applicable at some not too far point thereafter.
 
Sarah and Blaze said:
Blaze definitely has been reading the condo when I wasn’t looking and said NO to a possible dose increase! :joyful:
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Can you point out the green to me? That is our goal. Blue is good, green is better. He might yet need an increase later this week, when you choose to do it.

Discussions are great, much better to hear why people are thinking certain ways, instead of just giving suggestions.
 
+9.5 is 113, this is nice to see blue numbers during the day! Even though I’m extremely sick right now and home from work :(

Wondering what I should tonight? PMPS is in two and a half hours and he hasn’t started to come up yet.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Can you point out the green to me? That is our goal. Blue is good, green is better. He might yet need an increase later this week, when you choose to do it.

Discussions are great, much better to hear why people are thinking certain ways, instead of just giving suggestions.
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Can I point out the green to you??

I’m a little confused here.
 
It has been nine days and a different dose since he last saw green. I was just saying that showing you blues does not hold off an increase.
 
@Wendy&Neko

He might need an increase soon, but with the numbers he’s in today, wouldn’t that warrant holding the dose?

I haven’t caught a test where he was in the green since 10/20, which is why he got an increase from 1.25 to 1.5u. But he’s very close to green today, shouldn’t I be holding this dose for another day at least? Or are you suggesting I increase sooner? I’m just confused now.
 
You already had a discussion here about waiting a couple days before you increase. Hold the dose a couple days, but not another week.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
You already had a discussion here about waiting a couple days before you increase. Hold the dose a couple days, but not another week.
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I never planned on holding this dose for another week, that’s the reason why I switched from SLGS to TR, so I could increase sooner. I already decided on Thursday evening for an increase if numbers warrant that.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Sorry, I misread this.
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Ya I plan on an increase this week, but we were discussing his “next possible” increase (after this week) on a day earlier in the week, like a Tuesday or Wednesday, if needed. I planned on an increase this Thursday already, just wanted to give him another day or so on this dose:)
 
PMPS is 115, I haven’t fed him or given the shot yet. Is this safe to shoot?
I’m really sick today, came home from work early and will be home sick tomorrow too. Not sure how late I can stay up, as I’m feeling awful. Headache, body aches, sore throat, congestion. Any advice for tonight?
 
I hope I did the right thing, gave 1.5U after a 15 minute stall. I can’t get too far off schedule so I didn’t want to stall longer than that.
 
Wow Blaze, take it easy on mom when she's not feeling well!

Sorry no one got back to you in time. Hopefully he doesn't have any more surprises up his sleeve, but you always have the option to carb him up and abort the cycle. Especially on a night when you aren't feeling well-- you need your sleep!

Sarah and Blaze said:
Stalled for 15 monkeys
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Autocorrect or cold medicine? :joyful:
 
Nan & Amber (GA) said:
Wow Blaze, take it easy on mom when she's not feeling well!

Sorry no one got back to you in time. Hopefully he doesn't have any more surprises up his sleeve, but you always have the option to carb him up and abort the cycle. Especially on a night when you aren't feeling well-- you need your sleep!



Autocorrect or cold medicine? :joyful:
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Oh my gosh!! I stalled 15 MINUTES! Could be auto correct, could be cold meds!:joyful:

I’m going to get a +1 and see where he’s at. I gave him 10% carb for dinner to help bump him a bit but will give something higher if needed at +1. I figured these numbers were safe to shoot though, is that right?
 
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