10-13 Ittle AMPS=382 +3=339 +5=338 +9=355 PMPS=388/Moey AMPS=333 +3=350 +6=273 +9=310 PMPS=346
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Briere Fur Mom
Member Since 2019
Does anyone have a caliper conversion guide for Sure comfort brand syringes?
I'm absolutely appalled at how inaccurate all of my syringes are! I switched from Relion to BD thinking... American company, manufacturing tolerance standards should be higher.
I got 15 perfect syringes out of 100! Well, since all syringe brands are inaccurate I'd like to try the caliper method. When reading the kitty's SS it would be nice to have assurance that wonky numbers are not the result of human error in measuring. Sure comfort is reasonably affordable and has a nice smooth action. I have the 1u Sure comfort atm but, plan on ordering the 1/2u increments, from my local pharmacy, tomorrow(support local!). I'm using the perfectly marked BD(1/2 unit increment) for now. Wendy kindly provided a link to the thread regarding calipers. I saw BD was one of the brands listed so, I can reference that for now. Was just inquiring if anyone has the Sure comfort conversion before I do the math myself. TIA!
I'm absolutely appalled at how inaccurate all of my syringes are! I switched from Relion to BD thinking... American company, manufacturing tolerance standards should be higher.
I got 15 perfect syringes out of 100! Well, since all syringe brands are inaccurate I'd like to try the caliper method. When reading the kitty's SS it would be nice to have assurance that wonky numbers are not the result of human error in measuring. Sure comfort is reasonably affordable and has a nice smooth action. I have the 1u Sure comfort atm but, plan on ordering the 1/2u increments, from my local pharmacy, tomorrow(support local!). I'm using the perfectly marked BD(1/2 unit increment) for now. Wendy kindly provided a link to the thread regarding calipers. I saw BD was one of the brands listed so, I can reference that for now. Was just inquiring if anyone has the Sure comfort conversion before I do the math myself. TIA!
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Sue and Luci
Member Since 2017
Does anyone have a caliper conversion guide for Sure comfort brand syringes?
I'm absolutely appalled at how inaccurate all of my syringes are! I switched from Relion to BD thinking... American company, manufacturing tolerance standards should be higher.
I only have it for Relion syringes.
Briere Fur Mom
Member Since 2019
Thanks for the reply Sue. I hope you and the family had a great weekend. Has Luci been a good girl? She's very lucky to have such a dedicated mom and DH.
When you get time...no rush.... I'd appreciate the Relion measurements as well. Having a reference guide from a very experienced person, as yourself, would allow me to double check myself for errors. Thanks again and have a lovely evening.
I wish I had the measurements for Sure Comfort but when I polled the group, no one was using them. If you get it, please pass it on and I’ll add it to the post. Thank you.Does anyone have a caliper conversion guide for Sure comfort brand syringes?
I'm absolutely appalled at how inaccurate all of my syringes are! I switched from Relion to BD thinking... American company, manufacturing tolerance standards should be higher.
You aren’t going to want to hear this but the SS you are using is from the FB group not associated with FDMB. The issue with those SSs is that they don’t work well with this site. Every time I tried to open its SSs, as soon as I started to scroll through them, they shut down the SS and this site for me. I even tried to open them just through Google Sheets and the same thing happened. I have noticed this with every single one of the SSs from that FB group.
I strongly urge you to switch to our SS as the way the ones you have linked perform, it’s difficult to study them without them shutting down. I’d be glad to do the transfer of all your data on both SSs to our SSs if you will send me a PM.
From what I could glean from them before they shut down, I see your increase on them both was in 0.1u. The dose increase for them where there BGs are is 0.25u. SLGS is already a very less “aggressive” approach than TR and increasing by only 0.1u at this point will further slow down their progress.
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Sue and Luci
Member Since 2017
On Luci's SS - there's a tab named 'Information', 3rd tab to the right. Calipers conversions for the RELION only are on line 6-23 from Marge. Hope this is helpful.
Briere Fur Mom
Member Since 2019
Thank you Sue. Do you have trouble reading my SS? Does it crash for you as well? I have to back up my original SS's(I don't want to lose them) so, Marje can transfer all of my data from my SS's to this website's SS version. Oh the insanity! Thank goodness I finally got my flash drive so, I can copy my original SS's. I thought SS's were universal, LOL! If I knew people weren't capable of reading my SSs I would have fixed it a long time ago. Goodness I feel like a jerk
I hope you, Luci and family have a great day!
Sue and Luci
Member Since 2017
Thank you Sue. Do you have trouble reading my SS? Does it crash for you as well? I have to back up my original SS's(I don't want to lose them) so, Marje can transfer all of my data from my SS's to this website's SS version. Oh the insanity! Thank goodness I finally got my flash drive so, I can copy my original SS's. I thought SS's were universal, LOL! If I knew people weren't capable of reading my SSs I would have fixed it a long time ago. Goodness I feel like a jerk
I hope you, Luci and family have a great day!
I usually open from my laptop so I don’t recall having problems with your SS’s...
when I tried today from my phone it crashed...
It’ll get sorted out soon I hope
Briere Fur Mom
Member Since 2019
I had no idea my SS wasn't compatible with this website. No one has ever told me and I've actually had people compliment my SS. I'm quite baffled...sorry. I thought my version, utilizing google drive and google documents was just a "jazzed" up version of what you guys use. Who knew?!? Would you know why there's incompatibility? I love to learn as much as I can. Puts wrinkles in the 'ole gray matter
Let me back up my original SSs and I'll send you a PM so, you can transfer all of my data to this website's SS version. Unless you want to explain how to transfer data from one SS to another. I don't want to waste your valuable time on a chore that I can easily do myself. Since you can't read my SS, I'll explain why I increased both cats by .1u. My first increase with both cats was .25u(after the 5 day period). Both cats didn't accept the increase..dropping into the 50's/60's at +4. Their #'s were consecutively below 90. So, per SLGS I decreased them back down to the original dose(1u & .75u). Well Moey decided to drop, again, below the acceptable 90's at +5 & +6. So, I decreased him again, per SLGS, by .25u. His dose was then sitting at .5u which wasn't doing enough for him. Ittle's dose of 1u wasn't doing enough either. So, I decided to increase both cats by .1u instead of the full .25u. I was thinking slower dose increases might allow their body to accept the increase more readily w/o going too low resulting in bounces. Maybe I'm crazy and just plain inexperienced with Lantus...but that's how I interpreted the SSs. Y'all have far more experience than I. Anywho, we'll see how things go with their #'s and I'll adjust their doses accordingly.
Thanks so much for checking in on us, Marje! The kitties appreciate all the extra attention and eyes on their progress! It's most helpful to have a community looking out for us!
I’m assuming most members wouldn’t say anything but, being the SS guru, I spend more time with SSs than most and it’s become an issue. In fact, right before she passed awayI had no idea my SS wasn't compatible with this website. No one has ever told me and I've actually had people compliment my SS. I'm quite baffled...sorry. I thought my version, utilizing google drive and google documents was just a "jazzed" up version of what you guys use. Who knew?!? Would you know why there's incompatibility? I love to learn as much as I can. Puts wrinkles in the 'ole gray matter
Since you can't read my SS, I'll explain why I increased both cats by .1u. My first increase with both cats was .25u(after the 5 day period). Both cats didn't accept the increase..dropping into the 50's/60's at +4. Their #'s were consecutively below 90. So, per SLGS I decreased them back down to the original dose(1u & .75u). Well Moey decided to drop, again, below the acceptable 90's at +5 & +6. So, I decreased him again, per SLGS, by .25u. His dose was then sitting at .5u which wasn't doing enough for him. Ittle's dose of 1u wasn't doing enough either. So, I decided to increase both cats by .1u instead of the full .25u. I was thinking slower dose increases might allow their body to accept the increase more readily w/o going too low resulting in bounces. Maybe I'm crazy and just plain inexperienced with Lantus...but that's how I interpreted the SSs. Y'all have far more experience than I. Anywho, we'll see how things go with their #'s and I'll adjust their doses accordingly.
Thanks so much for checking in on us, Marje! The kitties appreciate all the extra attention and eyes on their progress! It's most helpful to have a community looking out for us!
, Jill and I were discussing this very issue and the best way to inform members coming from another group that they needed to use our SS. A start was made with this post.I am not sure why the incompatibility exists but I suspect something with the formatting. The basic SS was pirated from us by a member who is an admin in the FB group and I haven’t delved into the formatting deeply enough to know why it’s a problem. I’ve But, it makes it frustrating and difficult to offer sound dosing advice when it continues to shut down and it’s happened on every single one I’ve looked at. I tried with both of yours this morning multiple times so I could give you some dosing advice but they shut down so fast that I couldn’t even look at your references to your data.
I very strongly have a good suspicion of why you are having dosing issues and can offer a solution but I need to be able to see the SSs long enough to verify and give you solid advice.
If you can PM me, I can quickly transfer the data for you and I don’t mind at all. I can do it faster than I can explain it
I would really like to help you with the dosing advice so as soon as we get the SSs sorted out, I can do that.
Tina Marie (GA) and Jan
Member Since 2019
I could also see your impressive spreadsheets from my tablet and laptop. I haven't ever tried using my phone. Don't feel dumb! Marje told me to re-order my sheets to make it easier to view, just a few days ago! I hadn't noticed my labs sheet always came up first.
Ok, my dear....thank you for letting me transfer your data to our SSs which will work so much better here. Those of us giving dosing advice really appreciate it.
edited to add: I would suggest removing the strike-outs on doses. I understand that is supposed to show a “Failed dose” but it’s not necessary and doesn’t provide any information to those helping you. In fact, it’s confusing because it makes it look like you intended to shoot the dose but then didn’t.
As I mentioned earlier, dose increases and decreases under SLGS are typically 0.25u. If it looks like a reduction is failing, under SLGS, you still hold the dose the full week. It’s only under TR that as soon as you see it’s a failed reduction that you increase. (@Sue and Luci).
Here is what I’m seeing on Moey’s and Ittle’s SSs and why, IMHO, increasing the dose by 0.1u is not the best option for them. I’ll address them individually.
Moey: You reduced her dose on 10/7 because she dropped below 90. Correct However, under SLGS, you should have held the 0.5u dose for an entire week before making a decision on dose. She just had a cycle with a nadir below 150 which definitely would have made me wait the full 7 days before changing the dose, if it turned out to be the only nadir 150 or below.
Ittle: Same scenario; she earned a dose reduction but you didn’t hold the reduced dose for a week but you increased when she had just had a nadir below 150.
The other thing I’m seeing is that by not getting a +2 every cycle you can, you are missing the best indicator of whether the BG might drop and you get cycles like 10/3 where Ittie probably wouldn’t have earned a reduction if you’d caught the drop earlier and fed a little higher low carb to slow the drop.
We strongly urge new members electing to use SLGS to follow the guidelines until they’ve built up enough data to really see patterns....this can take a few months. I would suggest that you stick with the 0.25u increases and decreases and not raise doses until you’ve held them a full week.
I haven’t had time to read back through all your condos so please forgive me if I’m asking a question you’re answered but you test plenty for TR and it would allow you to increase doses more often, if needed. Just a thought.
edited to add: I would suggest removing the strike-outs on doses. I understand that is supposed to show a “Failed dose” but it’s not necessary and doesn’t provide any information to those helping you. In fact, it’s confusing because it makes it look like you intended to shoot the dose but then didn’t.
As I mentioned earlier, dose increases and decreases under SLGS are typically 0.25u. If it looks like a reduction is failing, under SLGS, you still hold the dose the full week. It’s only under TR that as soon as you see it’s a failed reduction that you increase. (@Sue and Luci).
Here is what I’m seeing on Moey’s and Ittle’s SSs and why, IMHO, increasing the dose by 0.1u is not the best option for them. I’ll address them individually.
Moey: You reduced her dose on 10/7 because she dropped below 90. Correct
However, under SLGS, you should have held the 0.5u dose for an entire week before making a decision on dose. She just had a cycle with a nadir below 150 which definitely would have made me wait the full 7 days before changing the dose, if it turned out to be the only nadir 150 or below.Ittle: Same scenario; she earned a dose reduction but you didn’t hold the reduced dose for a week but you increased when she had just had a nadir below 150.
The other thing I’m seeing is that by not getting a +2 every cycle you can, you are missing the best indicator of whether the BG might drop and you get cycles like 10/3 where Ittie probably wouldn’t have earned a reduction if you’d caught the drop earlier and fed a little higher low carb to slow the drop.
We strongly urge new members electing to use SLGS to follow the guidelines until they’ve built up enough data to really see patterns....this can take a few months. I would suggest that you stick with the 0.25u increases and decreases and not raise doses until you’ve held them a full week.
I haven’t had time to read back through all your condos so please forgive me if I’m asking a question you’re answered but you test plenty for TR and it would allow you to increase doses more often, if needed. Just a thought.
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