Scratches is crashing again!

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Scratch has been all over the place and idk what to do. I'm frustrated. She's been in high 200s for days and once her insulin kicks in she will be at good numbers like 160s ish. She was at 247 pre pm shot and now at +2 she's at 72. I almost predicted this would happen. Last time it dropped low she had a really good couple days, felt and acted great, then crashed. Same thing today. So idk what to do. She's having some gravy food and had a couple bits of kibble. Will test in 20. I'll update her spread sheet. Any advice would be great. Thank you

Update: now saying shes 125. Could have been a wonky strip. I'll test again in 20 to be safe. I can't take the stress!! Haha. Phew. But still. I still think she might be on too much insulin? I'm not sure. Going to attempt a curve on Sunday when I'm off work
 
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I cannot stay with you but will until someone else comes along.
Do not feed and keeping checking every 30 minutes.
You don't know if it was a wonky strip (next time re-test immediately) or if what you are seeing is the carbs taking effect.
If the numbers continue to rise on their own for the next 2 hours, most likely it was a wonky strip.
If the numbers rise and then start to go down, then most likely it was not a wonky strip.

Scratches123 said:
she had a really good couple days, felt and acted great, then crashed
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Lantus is a depot insulin. It stores a bit of insulin in the body and slowly releases it over time. This is what gives you nice, beautiful curves.
 
Red & Rover (GA) said:
I cannot stay with you but will until someone else comes along.
Do not feed and keeping checking every 30 minutes.
You don't know if it was a wonky strip (next time re-test immediately) or if what you are seeing is the carbs taking effect.
If the numbers continue to rise on their own for the next 2 hours, most likely it was a wonky strip.
If the numbers rise and then start to go down, then most likely it was not a wonky strip.


Lantus is a depot insulin. It stores a bit of insulin in the body and slowly releases it over time. This is what gives you nice, beautiful curves.
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Okay I fed her some gravy food and a couple bites of kibble. She was at 125 immediately after feeding. I have an alarm for thirty minutes after that. And no more food until I see the results.
 
Red & Rover (GA) said:
I cannot stay with you but will until someone else comes along.
Do not feed and keeping checking every 30 minutes.
You don't know if it was a wonky strip (next time re-test immediately) or if what you are seeing is the carbs taking effect.
If the numbers continue to rise on their own for the next 2 hours, most likely it was a wonky strip.
If the numbers rise and then start to go down, then most likely it was not a wonky strip.


Lantus is a depot insulin. It stores a bit of insulin in the body and slowly releases it over time. This is what gives you nice, beautiful curves.
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She seems okay. Purring. She's alert, I put the laser light near her and she perked right up
 
Scratches123 said:
Okay I fed her some gravy food and a couple bites of kibble. She was at 125 immediately after feeding. I have an alarm for thirty minutes after that. And no more food until I see the results.
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If she was 125 immediately after feeding, it could have been a wonky strip. Or it could have been her body reacting to a low(ish) number. 72 is close to the take action number of 68 on a pet meter.
However, you will have to be vigilant and test for a couple of hours just to make sure she's not dropping dangerously low because +2 is very early in the cycle and carbs only last for so long as you saw the other night.
 
Red & Rover (GA) said:
If she was 125 immediately after feeding, it could have been a wonky strip. Or it could have been her body reacting to a low(ish) number. 72 is close to the take action number of 68 on a pet meter.
However, you will have to be vigilant and test for a couple of hours just to make sure she's not dropping dangerously low because +2 is very early in the cycle and carbs only last for so long as you saw the other night.
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Yes I will definitely be testing a bunch tonight either way.
 
Red & Rover (GA) said:
If she was 125 immediately after feeding, it could have been a wonky strip. Or it could have been her body reacting to a low(ish) number. 72 is close to the take action number of 68 on a pet meter.
However, you will have to be vigilant and test for a couple of hours just to make sure she's not dropping dangerously low because +2 is very early in the cycle and carbs only last for so long as you saw the other night.
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She's at 80. Should I feed her again? Or wait?
 
I take it you want to follow the SLGS method of dosing which means Scratches earned a dose reduction down to 0.75u starting tomorrow AM as long as BG is high enough to give insulin.
 
+3 110

Scratches has already earned a reduction. Now the goal is to keep her in safe numbers until she starts to come up on her own without the benefit of food.
That said, it is still early in the cycle.
I'd give a tsp or two of LC to encourage a surf in the low blues.
 
Red & Rover (GA) said:
+3 110

Scratches has already earned a reduction. Now the goal is to keep her in safe numbers until she starts to come up on her own without the benefit of food.
That said, it is still early in the cycle.
I'd give a tsp or two of LC to encourage a surf in the low blues.
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Her normal Sheba will be okay? Pate?
 
Red & Rover (GA) said:
I edited the previous post to read

+4 (not +3.5) 139

I"m off to bed. MrWorfsMum will stay with you.
You both are doing a great job tonight.
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Thanks so much for everything! I was just more prepared tonight than I was last time. I'm staying calm. Scratches is actually playing a little bit, she hasn't done that in a long time. I think I'm on to something finally!
 
Scratches123 said:
Thanks so much for everything! I was just more prepared tonight than I was last time. I'm staying calm. Scratches is actually playing a little bit, she hasn't done that in a long time. I think I'm on to something finally!
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What you’re going through tonight is all too familiar for me as well! Cheers to those who have been walking you through the tests and feedings.

I, too, became calmer in the face of new lows, as I became more organized, and learned more about what I needed.

It feels so rewarding when you see a glimpse of the healthy cat in there again. I’m glad Scratches is improving!

Well done. :)
 
AliceMeowliss&Cassandra said:
What you’re going through tonight is all too familiar for me as well! Cheers to those who have been walking you through the tests and feedings.

I, too, became calmer in the face of new lows, as I became more organized, and learned more about what I needed.

It feels so rewarding when you see a glimpse of the healthy cat in there again. I’m glad Scratches is improving!

Well done. :)
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Thank you so much!!
 
Alrighty. I guess that's +6. I'd check again without feeding her in an hour and if she is still up/hasn't dropped, you can call it a night and just leave her some low carb food to munch on as long as you can pick it up 2 hours before doing her AMPS test.
 
You did great tonight. Scratches was never in any danger but was approaching the 68 take action BG and you handled it like a pro. The first couple times you see those green numbers they set the heart to racing. It does get easier. :)

Scratches had a nice cycle. Remember tomorrow morning, you need to reduce the dose to 0.75u because Scratches dropped below 90 tonight. It's likely you may see slightly higher numbers tomorrow but don't fret. It's just bouncing from those lovely green values tonight and BG will come down again but it may take up to 3 days to fully clear. As Scratches gets more used to those lower numbers, the bouncing should ease off. Bounces are frustrating for you but totally normal.

If per chance, Scratches BG has dropped substantially at the next test, and you need assistance (I seriously doubt this will happen), you can add the 911 prefix to your post and that will summon help. I may be up but it's 1:30 am here and I am fading fast so no guarantees. Hope you are feeling more awake than me! ;)
 
It's almost time for scratches shot this am. What would be a safe number to shoot? I just want to be prepared come shot time.
 
Generally until you get a little more data, we'd suggest 150 as a safe level to shoot full dose. If BG is below that, post for advice..
 
Bounces happen when BG drops quickly, drops a lot, or simply drops to levels kitty is no longer used to due to the diabetes and now perceives to b unsafe. Scratches dropped a lot quickly and to levels she is not used to last night although her BG was never too low. Her BG will come down over the next few cycles. Every at is different and some clear bounces quickly while others can take up to 6 cycles to clear them.
 
I'm off work tomorrow. Since I just changed her dose again, is it too soon to get a reliable curve done tomorrow? Or should I wait?
 
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