7/19 Chloe +12 108 + 12.5 PMPS 160 +2 24 +3.5 100 +4 79 vomitting + 4.5 86

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Yesterday Condo

Good morning. Hope everyone and their furbabies stay safe in the heat.
So Chloe heard me yesterday about her not getting any greens and contemplating a dose increase so she gave me two. Took me a little by surprise so late in the cycle. Lets see how today goes.

Did some food research. Picked up some raw to try wich I will do on the weekend and found a brand I never saw called Identity. The carbs and phosphorous are pretty low. I even sent an email to the company and they replied back pretty quickly. Limited ingredient novel proteins, gluten & grain free, no gums so now I hope she will eat it. If anyone has heard of this brand and have any comments, feel free to let me know.
Tough balance in dealing with diabetes, CKD & IBD.
Have a great day.

 

[Ti-Mousse (GA) Pepe (GA)]

Nice Green for Chloe this morning!
Interesting for the food, looks like quality! Did they tell you how much carb ?

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Nice Green for Chloe this morning!
Interesting for the food, looks like quality! Did they tell you how much carb ?

They said 1.5% but I did the calculations off the can and it seems higher than that but under 10 for sure.
We are not that far from each other. I am in Montreal. Nice to see another Quebecer here.

 

[Ti-Mousse (GA) Pepe (GA)]

Happy to see another one from Quebec! I'm not far from Montreal!
Even converting the GA to DM, I come up with a higher percentage also! I'll email them to see how they do their calculations because Ti-Mousse is very carb sensitive...! I'll see what they say...! It could be a nice change for him; it looks a very good choice!

 

[Sienne and Gabby (GA)]

Chloe's numbers are looking good! You've been at this dose for 5 days. Are you thinking about increasing over the weekend?

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Chloe's numbers are looking good! You've been at this dose for 5 days. Are you thinking about increasing over the weekend?

I asked that question yesterday about when to increase and then I hit some greens. My condo does not get too much traffic, even with the question mark and question about dose increase so really didn't get an answer as to when I should, if I should. I was holding the 10 cycles.
But if she is due for an increase than I wanted to do it on the weekend when I am around to watch her.
So Sienne you think I should go to .75 tomorrow?

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Well this is the lowest pre-shot. Was planning on going out for a bit after her insulin. Should I stall some? I will be gone for max 2 hours.

 

[MommaOfMuse]

Hi Randi,
I don't stop by all that often anymore, but saw your post on FB. Since I don't get here very often and haven't been following your condo, I hate to take a stab in the dark, but at least I can bump you up. If you can maybe stall and retest so you know you have a rising number?

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Thanks, thats why I posted there. Appreciate the help.
Funny in the am she drops like 100 points after 2 hours yet the nighttime she doesn't. BUt I was supposed to go for dinner and now worried if she drops.
stalling for now. Wait how long?

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

Wait how long?

20-30 minutes without feeding to see if she comes up without food

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

stalled the half hour, no food. She is at 160. Think I should be okay with .5 and will test when I get back???
Will feed now as well

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

How long will you be gone?

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

maybe 1-1.5 hour. just for dinner

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

How long will you be gone?

1-1.5 hours

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

Perfect!! She really is doing great for so early in her treatment and on such a small dose....let's see how this cycle goes before deciding what to do next

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Perfect!! She really is doing great for so early in her treatment and on such a small dose....let's see how this cycle goes before deciding what to do next

So go ahead and shoot, test when I get back?

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

yes!

As long as that number comes up after stalling, it's a really good sign that the last shot is fading fast and it's OK to shoot

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

yes!

As long as that number comes up after stalling, it's a really good sign that the last shot is fading fast and it's OK to shoot

Great, that's what I thought but needed some hand holding on this one. She is eating now.
Thanks so much Chris.
Will update after dinner.

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

On your spreadsheet, since you stalled, you'd put the 108 in the PMPS cell too....what I'd do is put 108@+12, 160@+12.5 (you'll have to color code it yourself)

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Okay what is the drill now. gave her a teaspoon of ff gravy to bring her up, don't want to get her full. test 15 minutes?
Help is appreciated.

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

Take a second test to double check the first test wasn't a wonky strip.

Do you have lots of strips, corn syrup, etc.?

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

gave her a teaspoon of ff gravy to bring her up, don't want to get her full. test 15 minutes?
Help is appreciated.

After a repeat test, if she's in the 20s or 30's, you need to add a couple of drops of Karo/honey/syrup to some "gravy" and test again in 15-20 minutes

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Take a second test to double check the first test wasn't a wonky strip.

Do you have lots of strips, corn syrup, etc.?

I took another one after a few licks of the gravy. Went to 38. Have 350 test strips, karo and ff gravy.she licked that up. when do i test again

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

After a repeat test, if she's in the 20s or 30's, you need to add a couple of drops of Karo/honey/syrup to some "gravy" and test again in 20 minutes

add drops of what to the gravy.

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

Sorry...my brain was typing faster than my fingers....I edited it to add Karo/honey/syrup

Usually it's the other way around.....LOL

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

karo for us Canucks = corn syrup
you can also use maple syrup

Hello from Central Ontario.

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

karo for us Canucks = corn syrup

Karo is corn syrup for us too....it's just a brand name.....Like Pepsi instead of cola

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

karo for us Canucks = corn syrup
you can also use maple syrup

Hello from Central Ontario.

haha thanks for the conversion in language. I normally call it corn syrup but got a bottle from plasttsburgh called karo. Hi from quebec,
Going to test again

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

Looks like she's UP!!....No more but test again in 30 minutes

And Congratulations on the reduction!! Down to .25 tomorrow!!

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

got her to 100 with a very little amount of ff gravy. have timer set to test again in 20 minutes.
does this mean she earn's a reduction tomorrow? I forget the automatic

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Looks like she's UP!!....No more but test again in 30 minutes

And Congratulations on the reduction!! Down to .25 tomorrow!!

You posted as I posted. No more gravy, regular food okay though? I don't think she ate a lot today either.
And wow I have to dose at .25? so hard to get an air bubble at such a low dose. My eyes are too old for this. Glad I got a magnifier

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

No food before the next test. You want to see if she is holding her own or if it is the carbs that are keeping her up temporarily.

Write down what you gave, how much, and when in the Remarks column so you can refer to it in the future.

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

No more gravy, regular food okay though?

For now, no more food at all....we want to make sure she stays a little bit hungry in case she drops back down and we need her to eat again

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

Since you have our attention, you can remove the 911 prefix now.

If you need to put it back up, you can always add it again!

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

This is on a syringe with half unit markings, with the top of the plunger sitting even with the top of the 0.5 mark and the bottom of the plunger sitting below the 0.5 mark.

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

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This is on a syringe with half unit markings, with the top of the plunger sitting even with the top of the 0.5 mark and the bottom of the plunger sitting below the 0.5 mark.

That's a .25 I used to shoot that low, counted drops actually. Thanks

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Holding steady at 100. no food, repeat again 30 minutes? And for how long should i keep testing through the night?

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

Holding steady at 100. no food, repeat again 30 minutes? And for how long should i keep testing through the night?

Retest in 30....if she's still doing good, test again in 1 hour....and then, as long as she doesn't pull anything silly on you, you've gotten her safely through her first visit with the sharks!

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Retest in 30....if she's still doing good, test again in 1 hour....and then, as long as she doesn't pull anything silly on you, you've gotten her safely through her first visit with the sharks!

Now I remember saying sleep was overrated when I was doing this with Max. Sadly I am 9 years older and have trouble staying awake. Oh well. Alarm is set for 30 minutes.
At least she is acting fine and was on my lap purring. I shall report back on numbers. Thanks for helping.

 

[Sienne and Gabby (GA)]

So much for an increase!

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

So much for an increase!

Lol I forget they hear us talk about them and then make their own plans. For sure thought were going to .75 tomorrow.
Guess she is a bit of a drama queen like her brother was a drama king. But still Gabby was the ruler of all.

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Not really holding on her own. Can I let her eat if she wants? Test 1/2 hour or hour?

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

Not really holding on her own. Can I let her eat if she wants? Test 1/2 hour or hour?

yes....you can give her some of her low carb food and test again in 30

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

This is when you pray for an early nadir cat.....but we don't have enough data on her yet to really know when her nadir is (and as soon as we do figure it out, she'll change it!!)

Welcome back to the sugardance!!!

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

yes....you can give her some of her low carb food and test again in 30[/QUOTE
She ate a little. On my lap purring know. Alarm set 20 minutes to go. Gave low carb.

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

Sorry. I had to go downstairs to get a glass of ice water - an entire tray of ice. The AC isn't quite up to the task of getting up to the second floor tonight. For the last hour or so, I have been hearing the occasional splash as one set of neighbours or another jumps into the river to cool off. This heat is something else. If I didn't have a broken toe, I'd be in the water myself.

You are doing a fantastic job tonight, Randi.

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Have not seen her throw up in ages. gave her so little gravy yet it all came spewing out of her. She is freaking me out. number is up a bit she has some low carb food before the vomit. going to test in an hour I guess

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

Sorry. I had to go downstairs to get a glass of ice water - an entire tray of ice. The AC isn't quite up to the task of getting up to the second floor tonight. For the last hour or so, I have been hearing the occasional splash as one set of neighbours or another jumps into the river to cool off. This heat is something else. If I didn't have a broken toe, I'd be in the water myself.

You are doing a fantastic job tonight, Randi.

Well I hope you take it easy. Its brutal hot here too. You on west or east coast?

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

I'm northeast of Toronto in the Kawarthas. Six hour drive to Montreal.
Without reading back through the entire condo, did you give any syrup? If so, it could be the syrup she is not used to. You also mentioned earlier that you thought she didn't eat much today. You could try offering a tsp of FF to see if she's interested. Is her hydration okay? You could make the FF soupy.

 

[Randi & Max (GA)]

I'm northeast of Toronto in the Kawarthas. Six hour drive to Montreal.
Without reading back through the entire condo, did you give any syrup? If so, it could be the syrup she is not used to. You also mentioned earlier that you thought she didn't eat much today. You could try offering a tsp of FF to see if she's interested. Is her hydration okay? You could make the FF soupy.

No I never gave the syrup.
Probably the gravy I hope. Her stomache is not used to that. Have not had thatbin my house in over 10 years. Scared the heck out of me. She is resting now. No more vomit. Will get another test in. Would like to go to sleep. Up since 530. I’m the heat and work all day.