Alice 7/2 PMPS 120 +7.5 39.... AMPS 63 +3 34 +4 51 +5 32 +6 57 +7.5 67 +9 54, 2-day recap, pic <3

AliceMeowliss (GA)

AliceMeowliss (GA)

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It looks like I took a couple days off from posting.


Recap: 6/30 PM cycle gave MC boost w/LC, so I could get a little sleep more safely
3.25u dose was held for 6 cycles, dropped it to 3u just for this current cycle due to low PS value (would rather prop with MC than skip)
In preparation for July 4th (ugh!) apparently some family has plans that are important to them, so I found a feeding sitter and have been slowly stepping her dose time back (it’s at 11:30 right now which is personally awful but tolerable temporarily)
7/1 happy greens then some blues
7/1 PM dose was unintentionally 40 min late
7/2 AMPS 63, temp reduction to 3u from 3.25, this cycle only, seemed faster and easier than delaying her shot any more or posting and waiting for responses, (plus I was trying to instruct other CG while I tried to nap,) but I plan to test for awhile and have MC to give if needed, and sometimes her AM PS value is lower because she gets a little less food the last half of PM cycle usually because I am trying to nap....

She has gained additional weight. She was hovering just over 3kg, around 3.03, but even with a potential full belly taken into account I can safely say she is up to 3.1-3.2kg reliably. :D

I hope all your kitties are hanging at the beach, having fun in the water and surfing along.

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She’s just so perfect, to me. I tell her all the time, “Miss Meowliss, you’re the best person ever!”
 
+3 is 34.


She gets this low and acts perfectly happy. What is up with that? No clinical signs.

She cries for food or company anytime she wants it, so I missed a +2 which I should have gotten, I know. Normally she reminds me first.
Anyway feeding MC w/gravy and will set the alarms properly for the next.... 30min? 60min? It’s already 7 min after testing, she ate everything and is licking her crumbs. There was a fair amount of food.
(I have ADHD and literally could be 20 seconds away from an important task and get distracted and off-track, sometimes. :p )

Also I am going to declare this a reduction earned because I know she has a despot and she had a 1/4 unit less today anyway so..... maybe I just shouldn’t have shot so low, critiques welcome, but anyway she’s fine. Not an emergency at all in the vein of know thy cat.
 
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carfurby said:
I'd definitely take the reduction. I hope she comes up for you. I'd test every 20 to 30 minutes until she comes back up and stays up.
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Yes and yes! That’s where I am at on both things too. I can move to the super gravy FF beef which is I think 20%, if I need to, but if I can bring her up gently I would like to.
3u is definitely the new dose.
She may also have a holiday temporary reduction for PM cycle July 4, with how she has been determined to cut down on the juice lately!!!
It’s looking like it takes her about 6-8 cycles per dose drop and she has to reduce again. This is reduction 4 since surgery! :D
 
+4 is 51!
Feeding as much MC as she wants, then going to get a +5, as long as she is staying up okay I will give instructions to other CG and call in to do check ins so I can leave and get some work done. :)
She handles her lows like this confusingly well? How would a 30-35 typically translate in vet/pet meter numbers (roughly)?

Is a hypo event *actually physically occurring in a negative sense* if no clinical signs are present? This is probably not asked in a very clear way, sorry.

Let’s say I come in and she is acting drunk and lethargic and weird and she tests at 35. I would absolutely see that as an emergency and administer syrup and so on.
Or I come in like today, and she is resting and perks up to attention and is calm and just relaxed and happy. Maybe a little bored at worst. And she tests at 34 and everything seems normal.......
Significance of numbers versus clinical signs in hypo? If she’s already in crisis she would present with some symptoms, yes? (Not to say I shouldn’t still boost her up to prevent a crisis.)
Maybe that’s my question. Probably best answered by ECID :p but I like science if you’ve got any! :D
 
+5 was back down... to 32!!!

Now feeding HC FF beef gravy lovers with a focus on the gravy part.

Oh Miss Alice I was going to do some work out of the home today!!! :p
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Up Alice!!!! Add a little bit of LC to the gravy. When the HC gravy wears off, the LC will hold them up a bit longer. Get another test in 30 minutes.
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+5.5 was only 34
She is getting some of the meat not just the gravy in it, and she started with LC, then MC with meat and gravy both, to HC with some meat pieces, also a little pumpkin earlier because the gravy will destroy her poops...... I actually even have emergency Purina DM kibble for longer-term propping concerns..... but that’s unstable. :b
 
I think I will give her an hour or so and let her take a nap. She looks ready for one and her one good pokie ear probably hurts.
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I realized she’s actually above her PS value. Every shot I tell myself “shoot low to stay low” and take a big gulp and hope it goes over well. :D
 
I hope she continues to surf safely for you.
AliceMeowliss&Cassandra said:
Is a hypo event *actually physically occurring in a negative sense* if no clinical signs are present? This is probably not asked in a very clear way, sorry.
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There is always a chance with low numbers it could cause damage to the cat. It's best to try and get the numbers up as soon as possible even if there are no symptoms.
 
carfurby said:
I hope she continues to surf safely for you.

There is always a chance with low numbers it could cause damage to the cat. It's best to try and get the numbers up as soon as possible even if there are no symptoms.
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Do you know the science? How does damage occur? I am always science curious. I would be one of those annoying kids that asks “because why?” after every answer, I’m sure. :p I think I need a more technical foundation.

Thanks for weighing in. :)
 
To be clear, any number in the 30s I would still work to increase back up over 50. I just want to understand I guess things like what is happening on a cellular level, and other weird complicated stuff I don’t need to mess with right now I suppose. :p

+7.5 is 67, that is without any additional food since HC pieces w/gravy @ +6. I will add some LC in a bit for her to nibble at and retest maybe around +9 this time..... :)

It’s amazing how she is holding so steady! :)
 
She has dropped again to 54 at +9 with only a LC snack.

Am I going to be able to shoot tonight even 3u? I will have to try sleep at some chunk of time more than 3 hours. Also preshot fasting time is supposed to start in an hour.

Anyone, thoughts?
 
AliceMeowliss&Cassandra said:
She has dropped again to 54 at +9 with only a LC snack.

Am I going to be able to shoot tonight even 3u? I will have to try sleep at some chunk of time more than 3 hours. Also preshot fasting time is supposed to start in an hour.

Anyone, thoughts?
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With a DKA in the rear view mirror , skipping is not ideal. But sleep is a good thing. Maybe a good compromise would be to shot a one time reduce dose 1.5 u to let the depot drain some. But even with reducing the higher depot could still be at play at the first 1/2 of the cycle and monitoring will be necessary.

Getting a +2 test to get a feel for how the cycle could play out and know how much more testing would be necessary. She could pop up in bounce mode after todays lows.

And then tomorrow AM go back to the new reduced dose of 3 units.

I won’t be able to stay with you tonight as I’m fighting a sore throat / cold and going to bed.

If you need help change your thread title to reflect that.
 
@Bobbie And Bubba , no worries as I can self-monitor and steer any emergencies that could arise. It’s always more a matter of expecting to and being rested enough or caffeinated enough! These days I get sloppier on my care if I get too tired. I’m alright for a few more hours though and I can carb load her as I have in the past. If I need to. Depending on PMPS value I may reduce lower than 3u. Now of course today she was actually draining the 3.25u depot still, and that’s another thing to consider....
 
Thanks @Bron and Sheba ! I do rather appreciate your time zone! It gets so lonely overnight here sometimes! :p

I do know that whatever she does, I’ve got the carbs to steer her. My supply needs some serious replenishing, but I still have a couple cycles worth of all carb varieties. :)

Actually almost PMPS! Normally I don’t do her shots this late but I’m planning ahead for a family party July 4. I’ve been staggering dose for days...
 
After all my little nerves... PMPS is 120! So she got her regular 3u for the evening. She’s either on a low bounce or she depleted some of that old dose depot. Feeding LC. Will test at +2 from now. She’s unhappy now about her ear. I think she just had twelve pokies for the day so far.
 
I thought she was holding pretty steady.... when I got up she had not eaten all her food. Perhaps lower BGLs are making her want to eat less now??
Anyway +7.5 was 39. Gave HC. I’m tired of this. And tired in general, today, now. :b
 
Alice what are you doing?!!
I agree with Carla. Maybe a one off 1.5 to drain the depot. I had to do that with Sheba a couple of times when she kept dropping low after reductions.
You must be so tired.
 
Draining the depot sounds fantastic! I just hate having her go back over renal threshold. I can’t afford the extra litter. :p

Her AM cycle won’t even start until 11:30am CST. One more day of this schedule and then I can slowly start cycling her back 15 minutes at a time to something more reasonable again!

I feel really bad because I guess I managed to sleep through my +2 alarm which is why she got a late test.... and I thought she was okay at 82 around +4.... she still had food in her bowl but was at 39 when I got up again. Why didn’t she eat if her blood sugar was low? She’s not nauseous because she ate the HC all up, and then a little LC after. It’s more like I’ve had to remind her somewhat, since the past couple of cycles.....
 
Alice was crying so I got up and did a +11.5... but she’s at 84. I think she just missed me. I am thinking I will call that her AMPS and half the dose to 1.5u just this one cycle, clear the depot, move her up about 15 minutes just this cycle because she doesn’t have to be shot so late until tomorrow night, and maybe I will even get a nap later!!!

Will start new condo for the day.

Thank you all for your support!
 
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