TYLER'S JOURNEY #2

Grab a +2 and if he is dropping much, feed a little to slow him down and test again at +4. If he's even lower, feed again. All depends on how low +4 is whether any further testing would be needed. That said, I don't think you are going to have to steer Tyler tonight. The pre-shot while blue was not that much lower than this morning's....essentially the same. Amazing what a tiny bit extra insulin can do. :joyful:
 
Grab a +2 and if he is dropping much, feed a little to slow him down and test again at +4. If he's even lower, feed again. All depends on how low +4 is whether any further testing would be needed. That said, I don't think you are going to have to steer Tyler tonight. The pre-shot while blue was not that much lower than this morning's....essentially the same. Amazing what a tiny bit extra insulin can do. :joyful:
When you say if he's dropping much do mean like a drop of say 80 or more?Sorry for so many questions. Are we still going to stay with the no shoot of 175 or under Not that we have gotten there yet. @MrWorfMen's Mom[/USER
Looking at his morning BG of 219 and then at+3 of 122 would you say that that was to much of a drop, all of those numbers weren't bad would you say
 
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I think 175 is a reasonable place to keep the shot cut off for now.

At +2 I'd expect his BG to just be starting to drop so anything over maybe 50 points and I'd prop him up a bit with a little food. Look at where he started, how much he's dropped and how much time since the shot has elapsed and figure if he keeps dropping the same until +5 or 6, where would that put him. That's how I look at a cycle to determine when to test again. Use the data you have collected to predict the future of the cycle. So if he starts at 191, and you don't want him to drop below say 80, then he has 81 points to play with. If he drops 50 to 140 by +2, he can safely drop another 30 points which is why we prop him up at +2 to slow him down and retest again to make sure he isn't dropping too fast or too low and feed if need be.
Well I am being summoned by a little black furry beast who is now climbing all over my desk trying to get my attention for food.......oh there she goes knocking stuff off the desk.... oh a landslide.......any wonder her name is Menace. Gotta go feed her! :woot:
 
I think 175 is a reasonable place to keep the shot cut off for now.

At +2 I'd expect his BG to just be starting to drop so anything over maybe 50 points and I'd prop him up a bit with a little food. Look at where he started, how much he's dropped and how much time since the shot has elapsed and figure if he keeps dropping the same until +5 or 6, where would that put him. That's how I look at a cycle to determine when to test again. Use the data you have collected to predict the future of the cycle. So if he starts at 191, and you don't want him to drop below say 80, then he has 81 points to play with. If he drops 50 to 140 by +2, he can safely drop another 30 points which is why we prop him up at +2 to slow him down and retest again to make sure he isn't dropping too fast or too low and feed if need be.
Well I am being summoned by a little black furry beast who is now climbing all over my desk trying to get my attention for food.......oh there she goes knocking stuff off the desk.... oh a landslide.......any wonder her name is Menace. Gotta go feed her! :woot:
Ok Linda, I'll get it sooner or later, thank you again, bad boy Menace lol
 
Ok the mess she made is sort of cleaned up. I had stacked some stuff for filing and had bills to be paid on the desk, all of which she pushed onto the floor!:rolleyes: Guess I'll be reordering the filing tomorrow! Miss Menace has been pilled and fed and is now luxuriating in a clean up session. Wish my life was that easy. Create havoc, get someone else to clean up the mess and then jump to my demand for a meal, have that person prepare and serve me my meal and then go soak in a tub. What a life! HAHAHAHAHA!
 
Ok the mess she made is sort of cleaned up. I had stacked some stuff for filing and had bills to be paid on the desk, all of which she pushed onto the floor!:rolleyes: Guess I'll be reordering the filing tomorrow! Miss Menace has been pilled and fed and is now luxuriating in a clean up session. Wish my life was that easy. Create havoc, get someone else to clean up the mess and then jump to my demand for a meal, have that person prepare and serve me my meal and then go soak in a tub. What a life! HAHAHAHAHA!
That's funny, but not really lol, the last thing you probably wanted to do is clean up a mess. They are something else. Wouldn't it be nice to soak in a nice warm tub and have someone serve us lol.
Friday PMPS 191. 6-14-19
+2 - 126 .a drop of 65 points in just 2 hrs. Gave some food
+4 127

I understood what you meant #104 so how many points does he have left, not much right? Just fed him so food.
 
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Linda couldn't test him anymore, my daughter has been up for almost 2 days straight from the pain from the rsd. From her neck up the nerve pain is excruciating in her neck, nose, eyes, entire face and her ears, She can't even lay her head on a pillow, feels like someone has beaten her with a bat, she can't even touch her ear lobes on a pillow.She is exhausted, never been this bad before. She's shaking from the pain and feels like she's going out of her mind. None of her pain meds are doing anything for her, Lyrica not doing a thing. I can't take seeing her in this much pain. It's progressing fast. Why why did this happen to her. I'm shaking so bad right now seeing her in this much pain and IncaI c do a thing for her. She can't take it anymore. I'll try to keep you updated on Tyler, at this point nothing matters. She cannot live like this anymore. I feel so alone, that I can't do a darn thing for her.She is not living , she's just existing. I don't know what we can do.
 
Diane, I'm so sorry to hear Ashley is not doing well. If memory serves, this is I presume, the fallout you and Ashley were dreading as a result of the Dr. cutting back to pain meds to prove to third party authorities he's not over Rxing. Criminal that anyone should have to suffer like that because the doctor's hands are tied by insurance company or government interference in medical care.

Tyler will be fine and in situations like this when your attention needs to be focused elsewhere, you can let Tyler run a bit higher. Lower the dose a bit (maybe back to right on 0.5u line or even the bottom of the line) so Tyler doesn't have to be monitored as closely.

Sending :bighug::bighug::bighug: for both of you and hoping and praying you can find some help for Ashley very soon.

P.S. you handled Tyler purrfectly last night.
 
Diane, I'm so sorry to hear Ashley is not doing well. If memory serves, this is I presume, the fallout you and Ashley were dreading as a result of the Dr. cutting back to pain meds to prove to third party authorities he's not over Rxing. Criminal that anyone should have to suffer like that because the doctor's hands are tied by insurance company or government interference in medical care.

Tyler will be fine and in situations like this when your attention needs to be focused elsewhere, you can let Tyler run a bit higher. Lower the dose a bit (maybe back to right on 0.5u line or even the bottom of the line) so Tyler doesn't have to be monitored as closely.

Sending :bighug::bighug::bighug: for both of you and hoping and praying you can find some help for Ashley very soon.

P.S. you handled Tyler purrfectly last night.
Thank you so much Linda, as for the pain meds ,he didn't even lower the dosage yet,
The extreme pain just came on from no where, , I mean she is always in pain, but this was like a 20 pain level. She still hasn't slept, Thanks for the kind words, I'll post Tyler's BG around 9:00 am Thank you my friend
 
Hey Linda just tested Tyler at 9:00 am
Saturday 6-15-19
AMPS - 167
What do you think just shoot exactly 0.5 u or should I go under the 0.5 u line
Like we have been doing @MrWorfMen's Mom
Oh wait where is my head at didn't we say do not shoot if it was 175 or under? @MrWorfMen's Mom
 
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I'm going to leave this decision to you based on what Ashley needs and your ability to monitor., If you can monitor then I'd an even 0.5u....if not drop it to the top of the 0.5u line. If you can't monitor at all, then you can skip but 167 and 175 aren't that far apart with meter variance. :):bighug:
 
This is strange, just re tested Tyler at +2 it was 188. How can that be when his AMPS was 167. I didn't put it on his SS yet because I am going to continue to do a few more tests. Like I said I stayed with 0.5 units exactly, but still shouldn't it have come down a bit at +2 @MrWorfMen's Mom
 
Patience.......food bump, a little bit of bouncing from yesterday's essentially blue cycles ...... all's good. That's only one moment in time. ;):bighug:
 
Patience.......food bump, a little bit of bouncing from yesterday's essentially blue cycles ...... all's good. That's only one moment in time. ;):bighug:
Ok Linda, I'll try to be patient, you should see me when I test Tyler, I talk to myself and wait while the meter is calculating and say , give me a good number. Tyler is such a good boy when I poke him, sometimes when he's sound alseep I'll test him and he doesn't even wake up lol, I'll post his BG numbers when I'm done doing a few more tests
 
I can tell you that the reading anticipation calms a bit with time but the trepidation about the reading NEVER fully goes away. Menace's Monday tests now still have me holding my breath waiting for the meter to display the result.:blackeye:
 
I did the sugar dance with Menace from Feb15 to Sept18 and she's the reason I am here. She was a high dose kitty with IAA which made her diabetes a little more challenging. Now that she is in remission, she still gets tested weekly so if she reverts back I will catch it early and be able to take action ASAP.
 
Just did a +4 on Tyler ,it's on his SS
Saturday 6-15-19 +4 228
So we have AMPS. 167
+2 - 188
+4 - 228
Is there any reason I have to continue testing him anymore until tonight's
PMPS at 8:30
Just don't want to keep poking him
Depending on tonight's PMPS I guess we can discuss if we should go back
to doing the little bit extra of the 0.5 units, like we did on Friday morning and evening
What is IAA? @MrWorfMen's Mom
 
No more pokees needed. Yes I think you can go back to the fat 0.5u again tonight.

IAA is Insulin Auto Antibodies. Basically an auto immune condition whereby her body blocked her from using the insulin. For awhile Menace was on 16u twice daily.

How is Ashley today?
 
No more pokees needed. Yes I think you can go back to the fat 0.5u again tonight.

IAA is Insulin Auto Antibodies. Basically an auto immune condition whereby her body blocked her from using the insulin. For awhile Menace was on 16u twice daily.

How is Ashley today?
Ok I'll give the fat 0.5 u again. I'll post what his PMPS is. Wow 16 u twice a day. Boy our poor cats get everything. I'm so happy that she's in remission. That must have been some battle for you, if anyone could get their kitty into remission is you.

Just a little bit about Ashley. Back when she was 19 she was laying on the floor and went to get up and felt like someone gripped the top of her head and pulled it back. Immediately she felt pain and almost passed out.

Took her to the ER and they did an x Ray and saw nothing just said had a military neck, don't know if I used the right word, it was just that her neck wasn't the way it should be.
Went home with muscle relaxers, used heat and ice. It really never felt right.
Then she started to get headaches 24/7. Had to drop out of college.
I took her to every neurologist, NYC, N.J
They were giving her meds for migraines, which they weren't.
She said they felt like a vice grip was around her head.
Had every diagnostic tests, MRI of the neck, brain, facet injections, Botox, I mean you name it she had it. I am a neurotic when it comes to medical stuff.

Now we went to a headache center in Philadelphia, PA. Thomas Jefferson.
They admitted her for 2 weeks and did lidocaine infusions to try to break the cycle .
Did this twice. Did not do anything.

Then went to Michigan Head and Neurological. There for 2 weeks, trying other type of infusions. Forget about it.
Went to Houston to see another specialist, waste of time and money.
Used up all of my husband's life insurance money.

There were other places we went to but I'd be here writing a novel

Now she had TMJ also, went to a specialist here in NJ. They did a MRI and she was bone on bone. But that was not causing the headaches.
He told us the top TMJ surgeon was in Florida.
Flew there he did another MRI and also asked her about her headaches and made us watch a film on Comples Regional Pain Syndrome/ RSD.
We call it CRPS for short.
To this day I swear what happened to her neck was crps.
I can't believe that people can get this disease as simple as having blood drawn, or spraining an ankle.

So she has the jaw surgery, called a fat graft, they cut you right in front of the ear and take fat from your stomach and put it where the disc was.
Both sides were done, it was living hell for the first 3 days for her.
Had to stay in Florida for 2 weeks, see the surgeon every other day.
Had to wear this type of mouth piece with rubber bands , could only take it out for 15 minutes three times a day, do exercises and eat, then put it back in

As the weeks went buy you were able to leave it out longer, and so on.
Came home and she had to have a special mouth piece made to wear at night , every night. More to it, but it's too long to go into.

Now she started to have pain on one side after a year, flew back down and come to find out the one side had bone growth, not good.
Guess what another surgery on one side
When people have this surgery most of them have to get braces put on , but the doctor said he was satisfied with her bite and didn't need braces, plus with crps in her face she never would have been able to handle wearing them.
Long story short , the doctor in N.J. made her the mouth piece per the surgeons instructions and if it had to be adjusted a lot that would mean either she was losing fat, etc. He was supposed to notify the surgeon of any changes. He trained under this surgeon. We kept telling him to look at her bite and he much it was starting to open and shift.

He said well you would never be able to handle another surgery because of the crps, well we knew that. She would have to have an osteotomy. Saw your jaws in half, bring the lower jaw forward put it in the correct position, held together with about 30 screws.
So now not only is she in pain with the crps , her jaw is killing her. Plus when the jaw is off it causes pain in the head, neck, etc.
If she makes a bite you can see right into her mouth, her lower jaw has receded, and it's going to one side.Shes only touching on one tooth.

She's going to take pictures of her mouth , already wrote the surgeon a letter and we want to know why we were never told this could happen. This guy thinks he's God, went to Harvard.
Then the other guy in Jersey didn't do his job correctly, never sent her for a scan called a cone bean scan to see wgwh was happening. I already had it out with him and it wasn't pretty.

One thing about Ashley's crps, she has symptoms that other people don't have.
We've seen 3 crps doctors and they all said they have never seen anyone with it that bad in their ears like Ashley does.
Linda no lying if you drop a fork in the sink and she is by you, the ear pain will start immediately. That is why she can't go outside because how can you avoid noise.

She only goes to doctor visits and she has to ask them to talk very low, then if course we have to explain why.
If she talks to long herself she gets pain. In the summer when everyone is mowing their lawns, and then those damn blowers I have to put her in the car and go sit somewhere until they are done. It's the same thing in the winter time with the snow blowers.
She uses this compound cream to put on her ears just to be able to lay on her side to sleep . Ketamine, gabepentin, Valium, and lidocaine.
She used to be able to take it right from the jar and put it on, but the last year, if it was to cold it would start off pain on the outside and inside of the ears.
Stabbing, pulsing, nerve pain.

So now she has to wrap the jar in a heating pad and if it's to warm the same thing happens. She just can't win. She is petrified every time.

So when this happens it might take about a week to go away.
Well now it's taking longer to go away.
This just happened a week ago with the cream and she is dying in so much pain Linda.
Stabbing, throbbing, pressure like feeling and her head and eyes.
It should be getting better by now but it's not.
She hasn't slept yet since yesterday morning, no fooling.
I was up with her all night , she is in so much pain that she's shaking from the pain.
She was like a wild dog last night, she's going out of her mind.
I could do nothing for her, I just wanted to put my hand through a window in anger that she has this disease.

She's afraid it's not going to get a little bit better because it's lasting so long.
So am I.
Another weird symptom she can't eat anything that's room temperature, anything cold.
Every damn thing she eats I have to put it in the microwave and get it to the right temperature so she can eat it, if it's too hot or to cold and she takes a bite out if it the pain starts in her teeth,leads to the eyes and then her ears.

This is no way to live. The loniness is driving her crazy. She never had the chance to experience life, love, going to work ,etc.
I can't tell you how I cry when I look at her while she's sleeping.
I say how the hell and why did this happen to her.

There is so much more I can tell you but you must be sorry you asked me how she was doing lol
Her best girlfriend who had the same disease killed herself last year.
She was the same age. They met on a support group and hut it off immediately.
They talked on line , little did we come to find out she lived 15 minutes away from us.
Her name was Jen. Besides having crps she also has trigeminal neuralgia.

They spoke about 4 times a day on line. I met with her mom before she died and her mom knew that Jen would do it, because she just couldn't take the pain any longer.
She tried everything also, the stimulator she had put in made things worse.
She said to her mom that she had nothing to live for but extreme pain.
I may sound horrible but I understand what she meant, so did her mom. But her mom cried to me that day and said I don't want to loose her but she didn't want to see her in pain any longer. I hope I don't sound heartless to you.


So we planned to take Ashley over to see Jen and to just hug each other , even if it was for only 10 minutes, but unfortunately it was to late

Annie her mom called me and I could tell in her voice that Jen was gone.
I cried like a baby.
I had to go inside to tell Ashley because I was outside on the phone at the time.
I can't even tell you how Ashley broke down.
She knew something was wrong when she didn't hear from Jen and the last time they spoke Jen said she loved her.
Even though they only knew each other for about 4 months, it was like they knew each other for years.
I belong to a lot of support groups and you wouldn't believe how many people have taken their lives.
I worry about what happens when I die, what's going to happen to Ashley.
Linda to tell you the truth , she prays every night that she dies in her sleep.
She says to me Mom I don't want to live like this anymore, but I'm afraid to do what Jen did.
Do you know what that does to me. I don't want to see her in pain every damn day, but I don't want to lose her either.
Can you understand that, do I sound awful
It's like she's in jail.
Right now nothing is letting up, meaning Ashley's pain.
I pray every night that I will wake up and she tells me she feels a little better.
Aren't you glad you asked me how she was doing.
I'm sorry I wrote a novel. I chew your ear off enough with Tyler.

I appreciate you listening to me Linda.
Well going to test Tyler now, let's see what he's up to.
Will let you know @MrWorfMen's Mom
 
First of all, don't worry about it being public. This community is very caring and all I can say is that my heart goes out to anyone with chronic pain. I have PSA (psoriatic arthritis) which thankfully is in remission now but I can remember telling my rheumatologist, when in a flare up, that I would gladly let anyone willing chop off my fingers so I could get some relief. I get it at least to some degree. I don't know what to say. Give Ashley a big hug from me....not that it helps the pain but maybe it helps to know some people get it.

If you are sure you can test Tyler, then I'd go with a right on the line 0.5u. He's looking so good.
 
First of all, don't worry about it being public. This community is very caring and all I can say is that my heart goes out to anyone with chronic pain. I have PSA (psoriatic arthritis) which thankfully is in remission now but I can remember telling my rheumatologist, when in a flare up, that I would gladly let anyone willing chop off my fingers so I could get some relief. I get it at least to some degree. I don't know what to say. Give Ashley a big hug from me....not that it helps the pain but maybe it helps to know some people get it.

If you are sure you can test Tyler, then I'd go with a right on the line 0.5u. He's looking so good.
I told Ashley I told you about her and she said thank you.
Please tell me I don't have to test him every hour like I have done recently, Is a +2 a +4 and a +8 or 9 good enough. I'm glad you are in remission and understand about chronic pain @MrWorfMen's Mom
 
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Absolutely fine. You have data to know when he hits his low point so while a wee bit more caution is needed now that he is in great numbers, it is not necessary to test every hour or even every 2 hours unless he gives you a clue he's doing something different. Get a +2 & +4. If you think he's dropping too much or too fast, you can use food to slow him down and make sure you get some sleep. You're no good to anyone if you get exhausted. Been there done that and it ain't fun!
 
Absolutely fine. You have data to know when he hits his low point so while a wee bit more caution is needed now that he is in great numbers, it is not necessary to test every hour or even every 2 hours unless he gives you a clue he's doing something different. Get a +2 & +4. If you think he's dropping too much or too fast, you can use food to slow him down and make sure you get some sleep. You're no good to anyone if you get exhausted. Been there done that and it ain't fun!
Ok gotcha , just to be clear I'm giving him 0.5 units, NOT the fat 0.5 u
 
He's likely bouncing a bit from all those beautiful blues. I'd give him the fat 0.5u. You backed him off a bit last night and that is probably playing into the AMPS too. He's looking good.
 
He's likely bouncing a bit from all those beautiful blues. I'd give him the fat 0.5u. You backed him off a bit last night and that is probably playing into the AMPS too. He's looking good.
Ok thanks Linda, Tyler is giving me the blues, lol I'll give my fatty the 0.5 Fat dose
and re check a few times . He may be looking good, but I look like hell lol
 
@MrWorfMen's Mom hey Linda I'm a bad mom, I planned on testing him at +2 which would have been noon
Since I gave him a FAT 0.5 u I said I'm just going to close my eyes for a minute. Woke up at 2:00 pm,
AMPS - 271
+4 - 182
The only other time I did a FAT 0.5 u was on 6-14-19
I would have really wanted to see what he was at +2 today
I guess I should do one more test before his PMPS?
Next time I better set my alarm @MrWorfMen's Mom
 
Don't sweat it. That's happened to me more times than I care to count and I'm sure to many others too. I wouldn't get carried away testing this PM. Grab one around +8 or +9 just to fill in a little gap where testing doesn't happen very often. Will tell you if and how much he's on his way back up.
 
Don't sweat it. That's happened to me more times than I care to count and I'm sure to many others too. I wouldn't get carried away testing this PM. Grab one around +8 or +9 just to fill in a little gap where testing doesn't happen very often. Will tell you if and how much he's on his way back up.
Ok will do, he's snoring away right, loud lol
I'll post his PMPS around 8:30 and we'll see if we should go with the same
dose of FAT 0.5 u . It's Tyler's fault I told him to wake me up lol
 
Don't sweat it. That's happened to me more times than I care to count and I'm sure to many others too. I wouldn't get carried away testing this PM. Grab one around +8 or +9 just to fill in a little gap where testing doesn't happen very often. Will tell you if and how much he's on his way back up.
Hey Linda, just tested Tyler at +9 It was 191
I filled it in on his SS , I'll see what his PMPS is tonight around 8:30 and see if
if you still suggest the FAT 0.5 units like I did this morning @MrWorfMen's Mom
 
I see Tyler didn't do any climbing since +9. That's good news. He's getting more use to those blues which is exactly what you want to see. If you are Ok testing till +4, then go with the fat 0.5u otherwise just a regular 0.5u. I'd grab a test at +2 and see what he's up to. I'll check in around 10:30 to see what he is up to.
 
I see Tyler didn't do any climbing since +9. That's good news. He's getting more use to those blues which is exactly what you want to see. If you are Ok testing till +4, then go with the fat 0.5u otherwise just a regular 0.5u. I'd grab a test at +2 and see what he's up to. I'll check in around 10:30 to see what he is up to.
He finished eating at 9:30, so I'll shoot at 10:00. I have no problem giving the FAT 0.5 and then test at +2 and +4 , so +2 would be 12:00 midnight. I don't want you to stay up until then to see what he's doing. I'll just make sure if he's dropping to fast or to low
I'll give him some food
 
Checking on another wee feline tonight at MN so will check on your two as well. :)
One think I'm a little confused about, I know you told me what to do if I ever see him
dropping to fast, here's my question
Say I test at +2 and he's dropping to fast , ok I feed him some food,
now do I have to test him after 30 minutes or so to see if it came up
or can I test at +3 or +4 or is that to late to see if his BG comes up
I hope you understand what I mean No need to answer I just looked back at
#95 I guess that means the page or number of replys, whatever
Lol I see what I should do
 
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I'd give Tyler a snack of LC food and check again at +4. He should be fine. That's a nice drop but not excessive. If he's down around 100 at +4 then give him a snack of medium carb if you have it or a little larger bit of LC and he should surf nicely. If he hasn't dropped that low, just a regular LC bit of food to hold him till morning.
 
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