NEW food-Gourmet Naturals by Fancy Feast

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Debra and Yoyo

Debra and Yoyo

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Does anyone know the carbohydrates for the new Gourmet Natural canned food by Fancy Feast?
I called Purina and I was told that the Gourmet Natural Beef in GRAVY only has 1.4% carbs fed as dry matter.
(I know Gravy Lovers beef has at least 20% carbs)
 
Debra and Yoyo said:
Does anyone know the carbohydrates for the new Gourmet Natural canned food by Fancy Feast?
I called Purina and I was told that the Gourmet Natural Beef in GRAVY only has 1.4% carbs fed as dry matter.
(I know Gravy Lovers beef has at least 20% carbs)
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Hi Debra, There was a link to a chart by Dr Pierson in the Feline Health Forum and I think it was listed in his chart. See this link http://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf. It helped me get an idea of choosing a variety for Chachi.
 
read down to the end of Dr Pierson's chart and it will give you, not only the contact info for the manufacturer, but a list of questions to ask -- they gave you the "dry matter" percentages, but I think what you need are the "as fed" values
 
CandyH and Catcat said:
read down to the end of Dr Pierson's chart and it will give you, not only the contact info for the manufacturer, but a list of questions to ask -- they gave you the "dry matter" percentages, but I think what you need are the "as fed" values
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"Dry matter" is what we're interested in. "As fed" doesn't take into account what the true percentage of carbs comes to before recalculating according to moisture content. So we're interested in dry matter after removing moisture percentage and then recalculating. It's all mind boggling sometimes! :confused:
 
Debra and Yoyo said:
Does anyone know the carbohydrates for the new Gourmet Natural canned food by Fancy Feast?
I called Purina and I was told that the Gourmet Natural Beef in GRAVY only has 1.4% carbs fed as dry matter.
(I know Gravy Lovers beef has at least 20% carbs)
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That would be awesome if FF offered a natural, low carb, gravy option! My cats can't eat it because I need low phosphorus for my CKD girl, but I know a of other cats would be happy!
 
Daddy Jack's Mommy said:
"Dry matter" is what we're interested in. "As fed" doesn't take into account what the true percentage of carbs comes to before recalculating according to moisture content. So we're interested in dry matter after removing moisture percentage and then recalculating. It's all mind boggling sometimes! :confused:
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I stand, or rather, sit -- corrected, memory is not what it used to be

most of the flavor enhancers used for making gravy have carbs you don't want for your sugarcat, but what about adding chicken broth to the food? you can make it yourself, in slow cooker? , so you know it has only protein and fat in it
 
CandyH and Catcat said:
I stand, or rather, sit -- corrected, memory is not what it used to be

most of the flavor enhancers used for making gravy have carbs you don't want for your sugarcat, but what about adding chicken broth to the food? you can make it yourself, in slow cooker? , so you know it has only protein and fat in it
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Thank you for all your info.....I am trying to figure out the carbs in this new food by fancy feast because my cat can go very low at times, below 50, and I need a canned food with at least 20% carbs.
 
Daddy Jack's Mommy said:
That would be awesome if FF offered a natural, low carb, gravy option! My cats can't eat it because I need low phosphorus for my CKD girl, but I know a of other cats would be happy!
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It is new on the market where I live and I haven't tried it yet because I do not know the carb info. It has no preservatives, artificail colors or flavors, no poultry by products, fillers, soy or corn.
 
one thing I rarely hear mentioned, when discussion centers around cat going too low, what about Temptations treats? they're very small, they're high in carbs, easy to store, most cats go bonkers for them, and they'd be easy to dip into honey or Karo, and hand-feed -- before diagnosis, Catcat adored the mix-up flavor with catnip
 
CandyH and Catcat said:
one thing I rarely hear mentioned, when discussion centers around cat going too low, what about Temptations treats? they're very small, they're high in carbs, easy to store, most cats go bonkers for them, and they'd be easy to dip into honey or Karo, and hand-feed -- before diagnosis, Catcat adored the mix-up flavor with catnip
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Thanks...I'll look for them in the store.
 
Debra and Yoyo said:
Thanks...I'll look for them in the store.
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There is a spreadsheet for calculating the carb % yourself that you can find in the food FAQs Q2 HERE

I added this to my google drive so that I can use the google sheets app while I'm at the store to calculate carb % of food :D
 
CandyH and Catcat said:
I stand, or rather, sit -- corrected, memory is not what it used to be

most of the flavor enhancers used for making gravy have carbs you don't want for your sugarcat, but what about adding chicken broth to the food? you can make it yourself, in slow cooker? , so you know it has only protein and fat in it
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Ok. Now I'm thoroughly confused. It may be "as fed" means the same as "dry matter." Hmm... (According to what I just read from the link that @AmandaE shared.) So, don't mark my words as being remotely correct! However, I do know that "dry matter" means the actually carb content after removing moisture, and that's what we want to know.
 
Jill & Alex (GA) said:
Nutritional values can be calculated either way, from as fed values or from dry matter.

See Marje's document titled "Calculating % Calories from Carbohydrates" located in the Health Links/FAQs Forum.

By following her instructions we're able to calculate the % calories from carbs using either the as-fed or DMB values.
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So I did understand it correctly. As fed means as it comes from the can, and dry matter is once the moisture content is removed. But I guess I was getting confused with the fact that carbs can be calculated from either one. It all gets a tad bit confusing...

Thanks for the link!
 
Be careful--don't get sucked in by the name. Most flavors contain wheat gluten. Most contain "natural flavors" which are anything but natural, this is a food industry term that covers flavorings that are highly processed from their original source (which can be something like tree bark, really!) and are anything but natural. and just because it says it's "beef" or "chicken", read the ingredients completely first, as there is not only the "beef" or "chicken" but also turkey, fish, chicken, beef, and "liver" which can be ANY type of liver, or mix of livers, not just the one that goes with the type of meat it claims to be on the title.
READ the ingredients carefully. Mostly, this new line seems to be a ploy to raise the price of their product lines, as wheat gluten is not a natural substance when isolated like that, and natural flavors are anything but, the protein is just a well blended mix of sources, and other than losing artificial coloring, they haven't changed much of anything over the classic pates.
 
I don't recall the values or where I located them, but at one point I did decide based on something I saw somewhere (this process is crazymaking, so I apologize for not having the source) that indicated it was alright on carbs. Our boys turned their nose up at it, so we haven't repurchased.
 
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