? Roxy BG in showing increase

Cathleen Graham

Cathleen Graham

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Help! I increased to 1U 5 1/2 days ago. I read somewhere on one of the message boards that she may be getting too much Lantus and thus producing higher reads. Can I please get some feedback on this? Posted thread a few days ago and no responses concerning this.
Also she is getting 1/4 Friskies Pate' throughout the day for snack. She is a raving maniac for food. Meal time is 6am 6pm and she gets 1/2 can Pate. Im not sure if I need to feed more. She is getting about 2 cans a dayhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oon2Duw8DmkKhWgavdP8F24wRgSoCLaQzch1BBRkNrQ/edit?usp=sharing
 
I don't think Roxy's numbers look like she is getting too much insulin. It looks like she needs a dose increase to bring her numbers down. She was getting blue nadirs and you decreased and they went away. You did the correct thing in increasing the dose to try and get her numbers back down. Are you following the TR Protocol? It looks like you just need to keep increasing per the protocol and eventually you'll hit the "good" dose that will bring her numbers back down. You're doing a good job of getting mid cycle test to see what she is doing.
 
Cathleen Graham said:
Help! I increased to 1U 5 1/2 days ago. I read somewhere on one of the message boards that she may be getting too much Lantus and thus producing higher reads. Can I please get some feedback on this? Posted thread a few days ago and no responses concerning this.
Also she is getting 1/4 Friskies Pate' throughout the day for snack. She is a raving maniac for food. Meal time is 6am 6pm and she gets 1/2 can Pate. Im not sure if I need to feed more. She is getting about 2 cans a dayhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oon2Duw8DmkKhWgavdP8F24wRgSoCLaQzch1BBRkNrQ/edit?usp=sharing
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How much does Roxy weigh? Diabetic cats are always hungry because their bodies don’t use the nutrients properly so their brain is telling them they are hungry a lot more than normal.

As an example, my cat was 7 lbs at diagnosis and 2 small cans a day would be for a non diabetic cat her weight. If I just fed her that she would keep losing weight. I had to feed her 3 cans a day just to keep her at 7 lbs. Since I started insulin, she is still eating almost 3 cans a day, but now she is finally gaining a little and is up almost a pound over the last month. Once her sugar is in a good range, I can reduce to the normal amount of food needed for her size and she will need less food because her body will use the nutrients better. Then I can keep her at a healthy weight, which for her is about 8.5 lbs.

I think they say 3 oz wet food for every 3-3.5 lbs of the cats weight, but that is for a normal cat to maintain, a diabetic cat needs more until their blood sugar is under control.

Some cats are still overweight when diagnosed, some are skinny. If your kitty is underweight, definitely feed a little more until she is better controlled.
 
Cathleen Graham said:
Roxy is 11 lbs ish. I am going to feed only protein snacks during the day and carbs for meals.
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Friskies pate should be fine during the day also, because at mid cycle their BG is normally at the lowest in cycle, not always but usually, on Lantus. If that is the only carbs she is getting (which is very minimal with that food), that is fine.

Only time you really need to hold food is just 2 hours before AM and PM tests to get accurate non food induced number before giving shot.

Also an 11 pound non diabetic cat should eat 3 to 3 1/2, 3oz. cans a day to maintain weight, so a diabetic cat actually needs a little more to keep from losing and just maintain. Not sure what weight is healthy for your cat, some cats are just bigger than others.

She should be able to have the equivalent of (3) 3 oz cans per day being diabetic and not gain (and maybe still lose a little) because that is the minimum for a non diabetic cat her size.

Once sugar is controlled her weight should regulate and she won’t be hungry all the time and at that point if she needs to lose a few pounds you can reduce food slightly and she won’t feel like she is so hungry all the time.
 
I agree with Carla. Roxy is not getting too much insulin -- her dose is too low at the moment. Let's see how the increase to 1.25u works.

Roxy's appetite will be lessened once her numbers are better regulated. When numbers are high, the end product of eating is glucose and it's floating around in the blood rather than getting into the cells. Insulin helps to transport glucose from the blood into the cells. If glucose is still in the blood, then your cat isn't really getting the calories she needs. It's fine to give her more food.
 
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