? 1/21 Luci AMPS 308 - 95 to 187 in 2 hours - how to stop the climb?

Sue and Luci

Sue and Luci

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Luci must have a hangover from all the festivities last night - but that didn't keep her from jumping on the bed this morning at FIVE A.M. WAKE UP MAMA!!!:facepalm: Pawty's over and I'm ready for some 'hair of the cat' - purring away...she wanted scritches and petting...and to catch a quick cat-nap until time for her AMPS routine...she was ready and waiting for me at the testing towel an hour later. She jumps up there now of her own accord...she knows how to tell time now apparently...and is ready when it's 'time'.:cat:

She did go for a nice long surf in the lagoon - the Full Moon Pawty must have been near the lagoon...because between dancing and drinking and generally cutting up with the other kitties she was also surfing nicely...what a gal! Mama should have as much energy...:rolleyes:

Happy Monday everyone here in L&L Land. Prayers and hugs to those in need. :bighug::bighug:
 
Beautiful SS last night. Luci's been looking so good lately!

I also got a 5am wakeup call, but Bailey didn't want no stinkin' scritches. She only wanted FOOD.

Really glad Luci is doing so well. Maybe she can show Bailey the way back to the deeper lagoon, just not deep enough to reach the sharks.
 
That Pink amps must be a Hangover from last night! moon cat.gif

Too much Partying Luci :joyful:
 
A couple thoughts. First, it looks like Miss Luci still likes to do the cliff dive after preshot. I would work on tying to feed the first part of the curve to slow her down so her bounce mechanism won’t feel like it has to engage. Second thing, I see you fed some MC at +4,6,7. Next time try just LC and see if that helps her surf, and maybe try no food, or just zero carb or test treats after nadir. Carbs after nadir when the insulin action is naturally slowing down will put the brakes on her duration. Medium carbs even more so.

Luci has been doing some great surfing lately, just need to extend it.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
would work on tying to feed the first part of the curve to slow her down so her bounce mechanism won’t feel like it has to engage.
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ok, so feeding her MC/LC mix at 2+ isn't enough? I 'have' fed her on many occasions at 2+ but that didn't deter her from her swandives - when she's going down she's going down...and I'm concerned the next number will be way too low...DH isn't quite as 'diligent' as I am in the evenings and since he's not testing quite as often (no helicopter wings for him)...she gets too low...(IMHO)...I just hate to see her lose her dose - that appears to be working because she's not getting MC to steer her away from those low numbers...then we just start over since she has a history of getting reductions that she may not have in fact earned...because someone wasn't watching closely and she went low, low, low...

Wendy&Neko said:
Next time try just LC and see if that helps her surf, and maybe try no food, or just zero carb or test treats after nadir.
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Are you able to determine when her nadir is? I find that it's all over the place...can be 4, 5 or 6+ - sometimes if I'm not staying on top of her testing - she'll pull out the old surprise me nadir - much later in the day...see December for examples of this. ie 10+ on 12/31 - I never really KNOW for certain if that last number tested is the lowest one of the day.

I'm happy to try any/all suggestions - I'm so focused on keeping her from going too low...now the focus is on trying to keep her from going to high...needless to say I'm perplexed...sure would like to avoid seeing her hit that yellow/pink number at PS times.

And yes, I'm thrilled that she's been so willing to surf lately! It's exciting to see her progress...now if I can just get her to 'catch on' to this flatter curve thing...and stop with the drama :)
 
I so agree with Wendy. I had basically said the same thing written out earlier this morning on my first post to you, and erased it as I didn't want you to feel like I was brow beaten you since I sent the "manipulating the curve " info to you on Saturday.

The yellow AM cycle was an indicator to you that she was going to drop in the next cycle or so. Last night at +2, I would have given her some LC food. ( divide up her calories a day into 8 feedings and give at pre shot, +1 , +2 and +3 like the "manipulating the curve says) You might not have to give MC food at all rather just some LC food to keep her surfing. That would help not overload her with carbs at the second end of her cycle to inflate her AM numbers.

It's worth a try......
 
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I am not against MC if you need it early in the cycle to slow her down, but as the cycle goes on and the insulin starts waning, you should be able to get away with lower carbs. I might also try some tests at +1 or +1,5, to try to see if feeding her before +2 might slow her down some more. Of course it’s different game at night. I was all about carbing up to get better sleep.

As for nadir, looks like it’s +4-6 as you said, except when it isn’t.:cat: Neko’s nadir was all over the place too, usually earlier if going low, later if breaking a bounce, or she just felt like it. I just tried to keep higher carbs in the first half of the cycle and reduced the % carbs given if I needed to give food after mid cycle.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Last night at +2, I would have given her some LC food.
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Ok, I'm going to give that a try.

But just to clarify something - Luci usually always gets food after tests - typically a quarter can of FF LC pate - 0-5% carbs. Sometimes just a piece of freeze dried chicken/salmon, etc. Yesterday at +7.5 and 8 she was given no food.

The ONLY time she gets a teaspoon of MC is when she drops 100+ points. The reason for this is I've been told in the past that I needed to SLOW HER DOWN. So now I'm confused.

She likes to start high and then does these dives. So @Wendy&Neko and you both agree - no more MC on these 100+ drops?

I do have to add when she drops from the 300's to the 200's - it's usually a portion of LC. If the next test - at this time I've been warned - and get the next test in ONE HOUR - if she drops another 100 - at this point she's in the low 100's - can we afford another big drop? If I continue with LC the next number could very well be below 50 - which then equals a dose reduction.

That was her pattern early on - and I was advised to stop the dramatic drop with MC. Some even advised that I give MC at PS - which I found very perplexing as her numbers were too high for MC - so her main meals are only LC unless she's already low - which happens rarely.

I want to thank you both again for your interest and advice - and we'll see where Luci starts this morning - 1/22 and go from there. Maybe she'll surprise me with a nice low number since she didn't get to the lagoon last night and was not fed any MC at all - only her LC food and some freeze dried snacks.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
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