Help?! 4:30pm test was 59, confirmed 3 times!!

Candy&Company

Candy&Company

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Gosh, this is a first for me! I tested my Fena at 4:30pm EST, she got 59 - I tested 2 more times, 10 minutes intervals for 4:40, 4:50 - all 59... she gets fed at 7:20pm to start (she's a picky/sloooow eater) and usually finishes by :45 - :55 then shot, 3 units ProZinc.

I've been monitoring her on my own since mid-Sept, she's up to 3 units ProZinc, as of 2 days ago - and now, BOOM - 59?! Is it my strips? I tested 3 times.. could they be bad?

I know I haven't filled out her SS, but the last 3 days she's been 214 (high) - 109 (low) on 3 units.

Her next test (1 hr from now)/fed/shot time is 8pm EST - help..?! :nailbiting:
 
Breathe Candy, it's not "take action" quite yet, but get your hypo kit out in case. They say test in 15-20 min, so it's about time to test again. And if you can fill in the ss, so others can see at a glance the last days too. I'm not Prozinc but I will stand by and watch for your next post and see what others say. They may not be available right now..?
Oh, no entries on ss since 9/24, it's going to be hard for them to tell you what the trend has been. Did they or vet recommend the insulin increase?
 
Idjit's mom said:
Breathe Candy, it's not "take action" quite yet, but get your hypo kit out in case. They say test in 15-20 min, so it's about time to test again. And if you can fill in the ss, so others can see at a glance the last days too. I'm not Prozinc but I will stand by and watch for your next post and see what others say. They may not be available right now..?
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Okay sorry, I've read so much and though I was ok for this but apparently not, LOL. Gonna get another test one sec.
 
Ok, she needs a little karo or honey, do you have HC canned food? If you do have gravy, press the gravy out with the lid, and give her a tsp. Or just a tsp of HC or MC pate.


If your cat is testing in low numbers and you are not getting a quick response to your post, there are several things you need to do. (Low numbers are under 50mg/dL or 2.8 mmol/L.)
Depending on how carbohydrate sensitive your cat is, feed approximately a teaspoon or less of gravy from high carb food or high carb food only. (If you have a cat with GI issues, using a couple of drops of syrup plus low carb food is an alternative.)
Test again in 15 – 20 min. Depending on the numbers, give more HC food.
Repeat the above steps every 15 – 20 min. until your cat tests in the 50 mg/dL (2.8 mmol/L) or above range for 2 consecutive tests. Continue to feed in small amounts to keep numbers in a safe range.
Test in 30 - 40 min. and repeat the test and feed process until there are 2 consecutive tests where numbers are stable or rising.
Test in an hour and follow the same steps.
DO NOT become complacent. If number have risen after one or two tests, it’s important to continue testing. Numbers may bobble up and down as the HC food and/or Karo wear off. DO NOT get one test where your cat has risen from low numbers into the 50s and go to sleep or leave the house. You are putting your cat in a risky situation. When in doubt, leave HC food out.
 
Idjit's mom said:
Ok, she needs a little karo or honey, do you have HC canned food? If you do have gravy, press the gravy out with the lid, and give her a tsp. Or just a tsp of HC or MC pate.


If your cat is testing in low numbers and you are not getting a quick response to your post, there are several things you need to do. (Low numbers are under 50mg/dL or 2.8 mmol/L.)
Depending on how carbohydrate sensitive your cat is, feed approximately a teaspoon or less of gravy from high carb food or high carb food only. (If you have a cat with GI issues, using a couple of drops of syrup plus low carb food is an alternative.)
Test again in 15 – 20 min. Depending on the numbers, give more HC food.
Repeat the above steps every 15 – 20 min. until your cat tests in the 50 mg/dL (2.8 mmol/L) or above range for 2 consecutive tests. Continue to feed in small amounts to keep numbers in a safe range.
Test in 30 - 40 min. and repeat the test and feed process until there are 2 consecutive tests where numbers are stable or rising.
Test in an hour and follow the same steps.
DO NOT become complacent. If number have risen after one or two tests, it’s important to continue testing. Numbers may bobble up and down as the HC food and/or Karo wear off. DO NOT get one test where your cat has risen from low numbers into the 50s and go to sleep or leave the house. You are putting your cat in a risky situation. When in doubt, leave HC food out.
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Yes I have that, high gravy - I'll do that, do you think she'll dip down still?

I'll give that and test again in 15 - 20 like you said, will follow this to the letter - shes acting ok but lathargic. I won't sleep, believe me!!!

k off to do this, brb.
 
Okay I gave her ALOT of gravy and she ate 1.5 abouts (food wise), with me tempting her/helping her - lick wise, anyway - it's 6pm EST now, when should I test again? 6:20-30? Fena's sleepy but not to where I can't wake her, I have her right here beside me. Let me reread posts, here I go.
 
you don't want to give too much food at a time, in case you need her to keep eating. Keep testing about every 15 - 20 min. then give another tsp or so if she is still low
 
If I follow correctly, her shot was at 8am EST, and you got 46 at 5:30pm EST which would be +9.5. Without data, I do not have a feel for when her normal nadir (lowest point in cycle) is. With ProZinc, it should "normally", in most cases, be past by now, and she should be beginning to rise. Hopefully, the food you gave her will have steered her up some. If she has not risen at all or has gone down more, you probably need to move to giving a drop of Karo syrup or the like. Do you have that?

Waiting to see the next test results....
 
If you are concerned with her behavior, go ahead and give her a drop of syrup; otherwise, I would test in 15/20 minutes and make a call then. The number did rise a bit, and she really should be on the upswing this late in the cycle.
 
FurBabiesMama said:
If I follow correctly, her shot was at 8am EST, and you got 46 at 5:30pm EST which would be +9.5. Without data, I do not have a feel for when her normal nadir (lowest point in cycle) is. With ProZinc, it should "normally", in most cases, be past by now, and she should be beginning to rise. Hopefully, the food you gave her will have steered her up some. If she has not risen at all or has gone down more, you probably need to move to giving a drop of Karo syrup or the like. Do you have that?

Waiting to see the next test results....
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She's been great honestly, this is the first OMG in my bank! She was coming down so slowly, I didn't think.. then, BOOM! I have all her numbers, I'll list them! I have gravy foods and Karo syrup, yes!
 
6:20pm, 69 BG - still sleepy, but awake enough to give me hell but she threw up, 6:19pm EST liquid/plus some food I gave her.. help?
 
Candy&Company said:
6am this morning - 334.
1pm EST - 205.
4:30PM est - 59, confirmed 3 times.
5:3pm pm est - 46!
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be kind to your cat and fill the SS now. It is impossible to advise w/o SS up to hour.

If you want get the best eyes on her - make it easy for these eyes to help her.
Candy&Company said:
6:20pm, 69 BG - still sleepy, but awake enough to give me hell but she threw up, 6:19pm EST liquid/plus some food I gave her.. help?
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do please update the ss.
The last entry I see was Sept 24th.
@Candy&Company
 
You just gave her gravy food she is not used to eating, correct? Could she have thrown up just because that didn't agree with her? Are there any other out-of-the-ordinary symptoms? You say 'sleepy', is she like normal cat sleepy or is it lethargy?
On a human meter, 69 is a much safer spot. I would keep monitoring her - both symptoms and check BG again in say another 20 mins.
 
Candy&Company said:
Yes, everything was okay so I thought, then she thew up. I'm syringing now, she's started to shake... god did i do something wrong?! She's at 76 now but she's RAVENOUS - so giving her more of the real food not just the gravy, etc.
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Are you sure you put the correct code in the meter for the strips you are using?? 76 on a human meter would not be hypo and should not be causing this.
 
If she is shaking, I would be giving syrup rather than food. I would also check the code on the meter and retest because the number doesn't fit with the symptoms. Do you have an emergency vet nearby if needed??
 
FurBabiesMama said:
Are you sure you put the correct code in the meter for the strips you are using?? 76 on a human meter would not be hypo and should not be causing this.
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Yes I'm using the Relion Micro meter, but she's fighting me now trying to do so many tests at once - I've got a whole notebook full I just need to put it in, but this is the first that it's gone bad... god I wish I put it all in, ugh! She's okay now, quiet, responds to me, moves around, etc. She can't stand up though not totally, whatever this is, its messed with her.
 
Candy&Company said:
Yes I'm using the Relion Micro meter, but she's fighting me now trying to do so many tests at once - I've got a whole notebook full I just need to put it in, but this is the first that it's gone bad... god I wish I put it all in, ugh! She's okay now, quiet, responds to me, moves around, etc. She can't stand up though not totally, whatever this is, its messed with her.
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I would take her to the vet. Don't mess around.
 
Candy&Company said:
I'll be testing again at the hour mark, 7pm EST - or should I do sooner? I dunno... I dunno what to do!!!
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If she can't stand up properly, something is not right. And with what has happened in the last hour, it could be a hypo incident or maybe something else. You can't muck around with a hypo if that is what it is. Better to be safe than sorry. Go to the vet now.
 
Honestly Candy, her symptoms are super odd. I think I'd head to the vet too. I don't know what's going on but she's fighting you, she can't stand up...we're simply not able to advise you on that because it may not even be diabetes related..or it may be some sort of symptom of hypo after the fact. I don't know, but I'd go to the vet.
 
A cat whose BG is at 76 should not be vomiting, shaking, unable to stand. Either the meter/strips you have are way off, or something odd is going on. Only you are there with her and can make the judgement call on what to do, but from our end, this sounds very concerning. I hate going to the vet, believe me, but with this, I think I would just to be safe.
 
Bron and Sheba said:
If she can't stand up properly, something is not right. And with what has happened in the last hour, it could be a hypo incident or maybe something else. You can't muck around with a hypo if that is what it is. Better to be safe than sorry. Go to the vet now.
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Okay I'm going NOW - I called for a cab, getting myself dressed... we're going! She's "meatloaf"ing, snuggling into herself with her head down, I jiggle, pet, wiggle her and she should care less - we're going! I'll update as soon as I can, I'm so scared!!!!!!
 
I'm glad you're going! It could be nothing, but better to be certain. Take a deep breath, remind yourself you're doing EXACTLY what you need to be doing to take care of Fena, and let us know when you can how things are. Don't get too freaked out (easy for me to say I know). Sending you :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
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