? 10/30 AMBG 116 Kylee (@24 right Jill)PMBG 104. 10/31 Should I start a new post for today? SS updated

Kylee and Her Mom Renee'

Kylee and Her Mom Renee'

Member Since 2018
NS 116. My girl is responding to food or something!!!! The BG is actually @24. Right Jill.
Follow guidelines set just for her. Will add to SS when I am at the computer.
 
If you did not shoot, then you want to say AMBG instead of AMPS. :)

She is looking good!

Here's your yesterday's condo. We like to link our condos so other members can read the history.
 
Yes, Kylee is looking good!

I'll be back later to comment after her spreadsheet is updated. It might not be until tonight. It just depends on how quickly I'm able to finish the project I'm working on...
 
Thank you for updating Kylee's spreadsheet!

A little refresher, when Kylee has a blue preshot number, you want to retest 3 - 4 hours later to see if she is able to bring herself down.

Just curious, has your husband completely stopped feeding her when he gets up in the morning (a couple hours prior to shot time)?

I noticed your question in the Community Forum: How have you told you vet you are OTJ? Or do you find a different Vet? It's something we should talk about.

Instead of following either of the protocols practiced in this group (TR or SLGS), I suggested an extremely conservative dosing protocol for the sole purpose of keeping Kylee safe. My suggestions were based on your circumstances, willingness, and the night when her numbers dropped into the 30s and she was "left in God's hands". Thankfully, she was still alive in the morning. Although, we'll never know if she experienced a hypo (symptomatic or non-symptomatic) while you slept. I couldn't, in good conscience, promote or suggest any type of dosing protocol that could put her in harm's way. That's how and why her current dosing strategy was born.

However, perhaps you've changed your mind about how you want to treat her? I had to ask after seeing your question about going OTJ. Do you want to attempt getting her OTJ rather than what we've been doing?

I don't need an answer now. It's something you need to really think about. For example, if history repeats itself, you'll undoubtedly be faced with another situation where you'll have to fight past your own issues in order to take care of her. She will be in YOUR hands... you'll be the one responsible for keeping her safe. I'm not saying that to criticize or scare you. I'm saying it because it's honest and very real.

There's no right or wrong answer here. If you choose to continue with her current dosing protocol, it may need to be tweaked from time to time and you could hope she'll go OTJ while on it... and she might. She's closer than most at this stage of the sugar dance. You're more than welcome to post in the group indefinitely for support and to ask for help if her customized protocol requires adjusting. On the other hand, if you'd like to actively attempt to get her OTJ, keeping her safe will require more of a commitment from you.

You have a personal decision to make. You'll not receive criticism or judgement from anyone because this is a decision only you can make.

Let us know how we can help.
 
Jill & Alex (GA) said:
Thank you for updating Kylee's spreadsheet!

A little refresher, when Kylee has a blue preshot number, you want to retest 3 - 4 hours later to see if she is able to bring herself down.

Just curious, has your husband completely stopped feeding her when he gets up in the morning (a couple hours prior to shot time)?

I noticed your question in the Community Forum: How have you told you vet you are OTJ? Or do you find a different Vet? It's something we should talk about.

Instead of following either of the protocols practiced in this group (TR or SLGS), I suggested an extremely conservative dosing protocol for the sole purpose of keeping Kylee safe. My suggestions were based on your circumstances, willingness, and the night when her numbers dropped into the 30s and she was "left in God's hands". Thankfully, she was still alive in the morning. Although, we'll never know if she experienced a hypo (symptomatic or non-symptomatic) while you slept. I couldn't, in good conscience, promote or suggest any type of dosing protocol that could put her in harm's way. That's how and why her current dosing strategy was born.

However, perhaps you've changed your mind about how you want to treat her? I had to ask after seeing your question about going OTJ. Do you want to attempt getting her OTJ rather than what we've been doing?

I don't need an answer now. It's something you need to really think about. For example, if history repeats itself, you'll undoubtedly be faced with another situation where you'll have to fight past your own issues in order to take care of her. She will be in YOUR hands... you'll be the one responsible for keeping her safe. I'm not saying that to criticize or scare you. I'm saying it because it's honest and very real.

There's no right or wrong answer here. If you choose to continue with her current dosing protocol, it may need to be tweaked from time to time and you could hope she'll go OTJ while on it... and she might. She's closer than most at this stage of the sugar dance. You're more than welcome to post in the group indefinitely for support and to ask for help if her customized protocol requires adjusting. On the other hand, if you'd like to actively attempt to get her OTJ, keeping her safe will require more of a commitment from you.

You have a personal decision to make. You'll not receive criticism or judgement from anyone because this is a decision only you can make.

Let us know how we can help.
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  • Thank you for the reminder to test every 3-4 hours.
  • My husband has been instructed to not feed her. I let her free feed at night. So maybe she has some left over food. I don't know. I want to make sure she has food during the night. But I know she is feeling better I can see it and the BG is showing me she is better.
  • I posted the question about OTJ because I am thinking this is a possability and was just curious about it and wanted to get feed back. I didn't intend to do this without the guidance of you and the others who have the experience. I get ahead of myself sometimes and have to see the big picture.
I want to stay with what we have been doing to keep her safe. It is a good protocol ("stategy") . I appreciate you doing this for me. But maybe one day she can be OTJ. I am commited to doing what ever it takes.
I am in it with her for the long haul. And I so appreciate you Jill for all the long hours your have spent to guide me and Kylee in this journey. I dont' feel so alone in all this.
Thank you again.
 
Here Kylee's data over the last few days:

10/28
AMPS - 142 @+48 (0.1u)
+11 - 99
PMBG - 71 @+12

10/29
AMBG - 104 @+24
PMBG - 87 @+35 <---- should that 87 be in the +36 column (PMPS column) on ss?

10/30
AMBG - 116 @+48
PMBG - 104 @+60

She's staying under renal threshold now. That's absolutely wonderful!


Current dosing scale:
  • shoot 0.25u if her BG is 175 or greater
  • shoot 0.1 if her BG is 125 - 174
  • skip shot if BG is less than 125

Thank you for your reply. It's good to know how you'd like to proceed.

FYI: Ideally, what we're looking for before starting an OTJ trial is BG numbers in the range of a healthy cat (50 - 80 mg/dL) while staying under 100 mg/dL overall. Experience has shown us doing so usually leads kitty to a stronger remission.

I stepped in because I knew we had to quickly figure out something out of the ordinary for Kylee. I've seen more dosing methods up close and kitties who have written their own rules than most in the group simply from participating during the early years when we were trying to figure out how to use Lantus and Levemir to their best advantage. I've also played a fundamental role in the group longer than just about anyone else. One of the advantages of being around as long as I have is others tend to back off a little when unorthodox suggestions or recommendations are made. :D

It's been my pleasure to help. I don't post much these days, but I'm watching and reading every single day. However, I want you to know you're never alone in this. There's an entire group here willing and able to support you. It's a pretty close knit group. They offer their time freely and generously. Take advantage of the help.

Kylee's BG numbers will let you know if her dose requires adjusting. If you ever find you're able to be a bit more aggressive, please say something. While she's staying under renal threshold, the sooner a cat's BG numbers are brought into the normal range of a healthy cat, the better chance for remission.
 
Jill & Alex (GA) said:
Here Kylee's data over the last few days:

10/28
AMPS - 142 @+48 (0.1u)
+11 - 99
PMBG - 71 @+12

10/29
AMBG - 104 @+24
PMBG - 87 @+35 <---- should that 87 be in the +36 column (PMPS column) on ss?

10/30
AMBG - 116 @+48
PMBG - 104 @+60

She's staying under renal threshold now. That's absolutely wonderful!


Current dosing scale:
  • shoot 0.25u if her BG is 175 or greater
  • shoot 0.1 if her BG is 125 - 174
  • skip shot if BG is less than 125
Thank you for your reply. It's good to know how you'd like to proceed.

FYI: Ideally, what we're looking for before starting an OTJ trial is BG numbers in the range of a healthy cat (50 - 80 mg/dL) while staying under 100 mg/dL overall. Experience has shown us doing so usually leads kitty to a stronger remission.

I stepped in because I knew we had to quickly figure out something out of the ordinary for Kylee. I've seen more dosing methods up close and kitties who have written their own rules than most in the group simply from participating during the early years when we were trying to figure out how to use Lantus and Levemir to their best advantage. I've also played a fundamental role in the group longer than just about anyone else. One of the advantages of being around as long as I have is others tend to back off a little when unorthodox suggestions or recommendations are made. :D

It's been my pleasure to help. I don't post much these days, but I'm watching and reading every single day. However, I want you to know you're never alone in this. There's an entire group here willing and able to support you. It's a pretty close knit group. They offer their time freely and generously. Take advantage of the help.

Kylee's BG numbers will let you know if her dose requires adjusting. If you ever find you're able to be a bit more aggressive, please say something. While she's staying under renal threshold, the sooner a cat's BG numbers are brought into the normal range of a healthy cat, the better chance for remission.
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Thank you, I made the changes on my hard copy and in the SS. Should I keep this post going and change to read like this: 10/31 AMBG 55 @+72 97@+75 or start day?
 
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