? Tacos vet says,

Cindy&Taco

Cindy&Taco

Member Since 2017
Last time I took one of my pets in to see the vet, not Taco, we talked about Taco. His vet prescribed Taco Prozinc in Aug 2017, the this july I asked him to prescribe Levemir, against his wishes ,he did,and is more or less against everything I do, such as giving him insulin every 12 hours, and feeding him more than twice per day, and said more or less I was on my own. He told me that Taco will never be without insulin. What do you think? From Tacos SS what do you think?
 
I respectfully disagree with everything your vet says. I can’t say that he will never go off insulin, but if you follow the protocol, I think he can be tightly controlled. It took me a year to get Max there. He didn’t go into remission but was tightly controlled. It seems most cats that go into remission do so during the first year but we have seen lots after two or more years.
 
Rebecca.garfie said:
I honestly didn't think at the beginning garfie would ever make it off insulin. But being diagnosed in Feb attempted fails with vet I got in touch with a wonderful person and she kept me going on protocols . He is now on day 6 of OTJT so don't give up. I had all those colours like taco has Keep at it and you maybe surprised
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Thank you so much for the reassurance :bighug: It's hard to be positive sometimes when you hear that from your vet ,I'm feeling a little better after his +2 number a few minutes ago, not such a steep hike,keeping the the faith :joyful:
 
I have to agree with others on the vet. As @Chris & China said to someone here yesterday 'Your vet is an idiot' - pretty blunt - but they do not get extensive training about feline diabetes and typically give out WRONG information - I've heard it time and time and time again - misdirection and bad advice. So that being said, I wish they'd all just tell their patients - go home and join that forum FelineDiabetes.com - you're on your own - those people will help you figure it all out. And then do just that. Get your prescription for Lantus or Levemir and leave.

You're testing a lot - you could probably give a pokey break when you've got a whole string of yellows...when the BG starts to go into those low blues you could increase your testing to hourly...and definitely when Taco is in the greens - more testing is better - to watch for the ever present danger of hypo - and your response to that. You're doing a terrific job with Taco!
 
Everyone here hopes for their cat to go into remission. I wish that we all got a crystal ball when our cat was diagnosed. Frankly, I doubt your vet got a crystal ball when s/he graduated from vet school. No one knows if any cat will reach remission and some caregivers struggle to get their cat tightly regulated. What we do know is that even human diabetics don't do well on restricting their meals and not all humans do well on a particular type of insulin. It's all very individual. If a vet doesn't want to listen to your input (since you know your cat better than the vet) and work with you, that's more the problem.
 
No one can give you any guarantees but never say never. As Momma to a high dose girl, I never dreamed she'd go into remission. I wasn't even sure I'd even get her regulated for the longest time and that was my only goal. Like Sienne says, none of us have a crystal ball.

My girl beat the odds and went into remission after more than 3 years so don't let anyone including your vet make you give up hope.:)
 
When I spoke to our vet about following the TR protocol he responded very condescendingly and also said nothing could be done about Leo's neuropathy. Don't give up hope! Listen to the wise people here instead of the vet. :bighug:
 
Thank you all for the reassurance that I can get Taco possibly regulated. That's all I really want. I just wish I knew what I could do better, to get him off those pinks. It's like he goes well for a day or 2 and then he remembers those pinks, and says I'm going there, I really wish I could get him to eat more of a variety, instead of fish, I don't know.? Also, remember he was on Prozinc for almost 1 year, so this is almost 18 months. This is exhausting. @Sue and Luci , my daughter has done better than me with the pokeys, she sleeps with him and told me last night that since he was yellow ,she wasnt going to test him till +11. So I think she gets it :) Thanks everybody :bighug::bighug:
 
Cindy&Taco said:
This is exhausting.
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I hear ya...I too find it exhausting...some days it takes everything I've got to test her - and when she's high I let it go until much later in the day - your Taco is having one of those high times...might as well take a pokey break - for you too - when Taco gets closer to being regulated you'll make up for the time off that you've had - but yep...it's all exhausting...but oh so worth it...your little furbaby will appreciate you for it in the long run. :bighug:
 
I switched to Levemir. I'm using less insulin ( saving money) , & Ravan doesn't jump when I inject (it doesn't sting him) It's a win win situation for us!
Lets be honest. Vets make money by doing tests They don't want you learning all this & doing it yourself! And that's the truth, for MOST of them :p

The vet I had in the beginning told me to, " stay off the computer & let me do my job" Sorry buddy I got a different vet! One who's open minded enough to listen to me & he's happy Ravan is doing so good. He was amazed when i gave him a copy of Ravan's SS

Best of Luck to you & Taco :):bighug:
The people here can help you ( more than most vets )
 
Take a look at Phoebes ss last year. She went up to 24 units 2x a day on lantus. She's now on .25 a day of levemir. And she's on steroids. Never give up and I'd find a new vet. You pay them, not the other way around. My vet was pretty much stuck on not going above 6 units. But after the documentation, who could argue it wasn't working. Now she handles the other illnesses and just ask me how shes doing. Hang in there it gets better. Taco will find the right dose. :bighug:
 
Cindy&Taco said:
Thank you so much for the reassurance :bighug: It's hard to be positive sometimes when you hear that from your vet ,I'm feeling a little better after his +2 number a few minutes ago, not such a steep hike,keeping the the faith :joyful:
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My vet went as far as telling me it's useless his organs are shutting down put him down. I said I want 1 last night with him brought him home and did 3 weeks of milk thistle treatments that's a detoxifyer for organs in humans and it worked for him vet was shocked and after that he gave no help because I didn't listen to him. Needless to say between that and what happened to my doggie he is no longer my vet. I have found a new one and they are much much better
 
Rebecca.garfie said:
3 weeks of milk thistle treatments
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Same here. One of my cats had High liver enzymes . Vet wanted to sell me meds for $50 I asked to see the label. Main ingredient, Milk Thistle, I told him no Thanks. Gave her my Milk thistle & 3 months later her Liver enzymes were back to normal.

I've had many terrible experiences with vets over the years.( I wish i could draw the blood & send it to the lab myself) It would save my kitties the stress of the car ride & the vet! I only take them in for blood tests or if it was an emergency.
Many of the vets are selling out to large corporations. Then the vet has to do as he's told. Sell their meds & charge ridiculous prices! That's why we have to educate ourselves. I always prefer to try a natural product & only resort to a "Pharmaceutical" if nothing else works.
 
I will now be using upper Canada veterinary hospital yes it's an hour away but they are so compassionate and caring they don't push anything on you you don't want. They took good care of my doggie and let me hold her while they put her down. My other vet hasn't even called to see how she is doing. Right now I can't go in there to tell them what happened cause my mouth would get me in trouble. I will be going soon to get all my records to take to new vet i think thats where garfie will be gojng when its time for his bloodwork check up.
 
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