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Sorry I wasn't around yesterday, I had some kind of flu or bug that hit me really hard; couldn't keep anything down, and ended with a particularly nasty migraine. It was really miserable. But I am feeling better now, just sore and achy from throwing up so much.

Squallie is doing well! We have made eating breakfast into a game - he eats the small amount of wet I want him to eat (it has his meds in it!) and then I give him some dry. Once we have this well-established, we'll try it at dinnertime, too. I am determined to get him back on the wet food if at all possible! Aside from eating, he is just his usual sweet, loving self. Still gaining weight, happy and purry, still slaying poor Vinnie with just a look, lol. All these are good signs, to me. :)
 
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Sorry I wasn't around yesterday, I had some kind of flu or bug that hit me really hard; couldn't keep anything down, and ended with a particularly nasty migraine. It was really miserable. But I am feeling better now, just sore and achy from throwing up so much.

Squallie is doing well! We have made eating breakfast into a game - he eats the small amount of wet I want him to eat (it has his meds in it!) and then I give him some dry. Once we have this well-established, we'll try it at dinnertime, too. I am determined to get him back on the wet food if at all possible! Aside from eating, he is just his usual sweet, loving self. Still gaining weight, happy and purry, still slaying poor Vinnie with just a look, lol. All these are good signs, to me. :)
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Yay. Great news. Especially the weight gain and back to sweet, loving self.
 
Well, I’m back at the vet with Squallie and it is not good news. The vet says the mass is MUCH larger than the last time he felt it and he thinks it’s blocking Squallie’s colon. I don’t think surgery is an option. My heart is breaking.
 
Lucy , my heart goes out to you and Squallie :bighug: Makes me wonder with how good he’s eating and acting ... could the vet be wrong ? Could this be inflammation or backed up poo? . Is there nothing to give in case this is inflamed tissue ? What else could it be to try treatment ? Still doesn’t sound definite . Sending love, hugs , hope and prayers that Squallie continues to defy the reports and peace for your heart .:bighug:❤️:bighug:❤️:bighug:❤️
 
I hate to hear that, Lucy! Huge hugs!!!!

If that's true, please try not to actively think about his illness. It's so hard to put into words, but if you can think of him as Squallie vs sick Squallie, the days with him can still feel normal and happy instead of shadowed by worry.
 
I am just gutted. I don't know exactly what I expected to happen, but I did not expect this mass to grow this fast. The vet says it's obstructing about 2/3 of his colon, now. I asked if it could be just inflammation that might go down again; he said it was possible but, in all honesty, he didn't think so. He said the piroxicam is supposed to shrink it and, if it doesn't - and apparently it isn't - , there's really not much more we can do. So right now, the best thing we can do is to medicate him to deliberately try to give him diarrhea. :(:(:(:(:(:(:(
 
(((Lucy))), Let's hope and pray that it is something that will resolve on it's own. Squallie continues to feel good and that's what matters most. Take your cue from your kitty. Maybe all the meds are messing with his systems.
We are sending a beautiful bouquet of healing vines for your boy this evening. Think positively! Squallie loves you.

:bighug::bighug::bighug: and scritches,
 
Reading the pain in your words has tears in my eyes. Take a deep breath. I think my first post to you was about our cats being tough Maryland kitties. Well, we are tough Maryland kitty mamas. We'll get through this. I'm here if there's anything I can do.
 
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Did he have an ultra sound? One of the posts I read said her kitty had a large cyst .Maybe the vet is mistaken.
One of my kitties had cancer. She was 20 years old. I had surgery done and she did fine Lived to be 23. & died peacefully laying next to me.
Don't get discouraged. He sounds like he's doing good.

Sending you & Kitty love & healing energy! :):bighug:
 
-I just gave Squallie his second dose of Lactulose, and he is acting really strange. He acted like something hurt his mouth, like maybe he'd been stung or something, jumped into a chair and circled around it it several times, then sat down and made the vomit cry, but didn't vomit. He keeps drawing his lips back and kind of shaking his head and swallowing, and he won't look at anyone . He doesn't want to be petted or comforted, and until just now, didn't want to stay still for very long. Anybody have any ideas? Have I killed my cat by giving him his medication???? Did he maybe aspirate some of it??? I don't know and I'm terrified!

ETA: He is breathing rapidly, too, about 60/min.
 
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Oh, gosh, I'm not up to speed, was just reading a post about Squallie's recent dental and then saw your 911...
What's happening now?
 
Is his breathing labored? Do you think you just maybe hit a tender spot in his mouth when you administered? So worried about you guys right now, praying everything is okay.
 
He seems a little bit better, still breathing really fast, not curling his lips back and swallowing anymore. He's stopped circling and moving around, is lying down facing away from me. he won't look at me, but I think that's probably because he thinks I poisoned him (trying to find some humor here, sorry). As I'm watching him, I think his breathing is slowing down some, too. His reaction was truly bizarre, to me, I've never seen a cat do that lip thing, and the circling, all of it was just weird. And scary. He does seem more like himself now, I think he's going to be okay. I hope.

ETA: He had no reaction whatsoever to the med the first time he got it today.
 
I always worry about aspiration when I administer meds... Taffy has a really tight mouth and he doesn't have that pocket in his cheek like most cats. So I go really really slowly with him especially with the lactulose cuz it's such a sticky syrup... I try to just put like a drop and make sure he swallows and then I also have water handy so I can give him a little squirt of water right after. I know some cats get gas and some stomach pain sometimes from lactulose, at least that's what I've read. I usually give smaller dose than what the doctor prescribes, since Taffy is getting older he doesn't seem to need as much but then I'm just trying to soften his stools when he's constipated, from what I've skimmed over reading about Squallie, he's got some sort of a mass which I'm really sorry about.
but the reaction you describe sort of sounds to me like maybe something hurt him in his mouth when you gave him the dose did you use a plastic syringe? I was just reading before I saw your 911 that he'd had a recent Dental (because I need to take taffy in for a dental this week and I'm really freaked out and nervous about it so I was looking at posts about dentals), do you think you hit a tender spot in his mouth or something maybe something just really hurt and he was just reacting to that and now he's mad at you.
 
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-I just gave Squallie his second dose of Lactulose, and he is acting really strange. He acted like something hurt his mouth, like maybe he'd been stung or something, jumped into a chair and circled around it it several times, then sat down and made the vomit cry, but didn't vomit. He keeps drawing his lips back and kind of shaking his head and swallowing, and he won't look at anyone . He doesn't want to be petted or comforted, and until just now, didn't want to stay still for very long. Anybody have any ideas? Have I killed my cat by giving him his medication???? Did he maybe aspirate some of it??? I don't know and I'm terrified!

ETA: He is breathing rapidly, too, about 60/min.
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Lucy.
Do you think he had a Flehmen response maybe brought on by his recovering sinuses.

Any chance of getting him to a vet? The circling is a bit concerning.

loves
M
 
Taffysmama said:
I always worry about aspiration when I administer meds... Taffy has a really tight mouth and he doesn't have that pocket in his cheek like most cats. So I go really really slowly with him especially with the lactulose cuz it's such a sticky syrup... I try to just put like a drop and make sure he swallows and then I also have water handy so I can give him a little squirt of water right after. I know some cats get gas and some stomach pain sometimes from lactulose, at least that's what I've read. I usually give smaller dose than what the doctor prescribes, since Taffy is getting older he doesn't seem to need as much but then I'm just trying to soften his stools when he's constipated, from what I've skimmed over reading about Squallie, he's got some sort of a mass which I'm really sorry about.
but the reaction you describe sort of sounds to me like maybe something hurt him in his mouth when you gave him the dose did you use a plastic syringe? I was just reading before I saw your 911 that he'd had a recent Dental (because I need to take taffy in for a dental this week and I'm really freaked out and nervous about it so I was looking at posts about dentals), do you think you hit a tender spot in his mouth or something maybe something just really hurt and he was just reacting to that and now he's mad at you.
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Well, I don't think it's a life and death emergency anymore, thankfully. He seems much better now. It's been about an hour-and-a-half since he had the Lactulose. My son asked the same question, about maybe hitting a tender spot, but the reaction was much greater than what I would expect from hitting a sore spot. And weirder. Do you think he might have aspirated some of it? He hates having anything syringed in his mouth, so I always try to be extra-careful. He fights it so it's hard to tell sometimes exactly where it's going.

Squallie did wonderfully well with the dental. I was terrified, but he came through like a champ. What is Taffy having done? Squallie has all his chompers removed, he was in surgery about 2 1/2 hours. I'm sure Taffy will do well, too. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
So sorry for the run-ons and lack of punctuation, I'm dictating to type because I've gotten lazy and I don't like to do corrections anymore when I try to type with my fingers, lol.

I really hope Squallie is doing better! You gave me a panic...I already panic about everything that goes on with my cats and I kind of don't come on the board that much anymore because every time something bad happens I just get freaked out, so I'm thinking of you guys and I hope that Squallie's okay.
 
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Lucy.
Do you think he had a Flehmen response maybe brought on by his recovering sinuses.

Any chance of getting him to a vet? The circling is a bit concerning.

loves
M
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Honestly, M, I don't know. It was just weird, really weird. He acted like he'd just swallowed something toxic. Or been stung by something. I've never seen a cat act that way before. He's doing better now, his breathing has finally slowed down. He still wants no parts of me!

ETA: He almost acted like he was having small seizures. It scared the hack out of me!

Thanks for responding, miss you around the place. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
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Taffysmama said:
So sorry for the run-ons and lack of punctuation, I'm dictating to type because I've gotten lazy and I don't like to do corrections anymore when I try to type with my fingers, lol.

I really hope Squallie is doing better! You gave me a panic...I already panic about everything that goes on with my cats and I kind of don't come on the board that much anymore because every time something bad happens I just get freaked out, so I'm thinking of you guys and I hope that Squallie's okay.
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No apology necessary! I appreciate your responding, I was really panicking. I know what you mean about getting freaked out, I share your feelings. Some days it's really hard to come here.
 
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Well, I don't think it's a life and death emergency anymore, thankfully. He seems much better now. It's been about an hour-and-a-half since he had the Lactulose. My son asked the same question, about maybe hitting a tender spot, but the reaction was much greater than what I would expect from hitting a sore spot. And weirder. Do you think he might have aspirated some of it? He hates having anything syringed in his mouth, so I always try to be extra-careful. He fights it so it's hard to tell sometimes exactly where it's going.

Squallie did wonderfully well with the dental. I was terrified, but he came through like a champ. What is Taffy having done? Squallie has all his chompers removed, he was in surgery about 2 1/2 hours. I'm sure Taffy will do well, too. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
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We don't know yet, exactly...I know he has some bad teeth, but he can't be examined well until under. I've never had a cat with such a tough mouth/cheeks, impossible to get a good look.

I'm keeping you & Squallie in my thoughts, sending Vines, everything...
 
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We don't know yet, exactly...I know he has some bad teeth, but he can't be examined well until under. I've never had a cat with such a tough mouth/cheeks, impossible to get a good look.

I'm keeping you & Squallie in my thoughts, sending Vines, everything...
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Squallie had FORLS, so we knew going in it was going to be a full mouth extraction. I'll keep you and Taffy in my thoughts and prayers as well, for his dental.
 
Squalliesmom said:
Squallie had FORLS, so we knew going in it was going to be a full mouth extraction. I'll keep you and Taffy in my thoughts and prayers as well, for his dental.
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TY ;)
I was doing quick research... Maybe something about the taste of the Lac just got him, and caused like an instant nausea.. .?
I'm not thinking his next dose will be easy :nailbiting:
 
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