? Jade amps 155...+2 105... STILL DROPPING +2.5 ..80!!

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Jill Hollister said:
I can’t help but worry about what’s happening while I’m at work. Up to 170 @+ 4 and 9% carb food out is good... right??
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I used to worry all the time, everyday, all day but as u get used to seeing the number and what they normally do with them I promise it will get easier, I have to leave for work at 7:15am I shoot bella at 5am I test again at 7 to see what he is doing with it, it just takes time to get used to it, your doing a great job
 
Bellasmom said:
I used to worry all the time, everyday, all day but as u get used to seeing the number and what they normally do with them I promise it will get easier, I have to leave for work at 7:15am I shoot bella at 5am I test again at 7 to see what he is doing with it, it just takes time to get used to it, your doing a great job
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My problem is that she’s sooooo sporadic with her #s
 
Jill Hollister said:
I made a note to look in the comment section for full details...
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I would put the BG numbers in the spreadsheet under the appropriate + hours, and the rest of the info in the comment section. We've been hard wired here to see patterns in colours/numbers on the cells.
Jill Hollister said:
My problem is that she’s sooooo sporadic with her #s
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I see a lot of improvement the last couple of days. Looks like she's settling down, which is a good thing. She's not going as high as she used to.:)
 
Wendy&Neko said:
I would put the BG numbers in the spreadsheet under the appropriate + hours, and the rest of the info in the comment section. We've been hard wired here to see patterns in colours/numbers on the cells.

I see a lot of improvement the last couple of days. Looks like she's settling down, which is a good thing. She's not going as high as she used to.:)
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High doesn’t worry me like low does.
 
No rush, just in your own time on the SS.:bighug:

You are right to be concerned about low numbers. In general (but I am talking about unpredicatble cats:cat:), the lower the preshot, the flatter the cycle. Which makes it more predictable. However, again it's something you learn over time, which is how Jade uses the insulin. For as new as you are, you are doing a fantastic job.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
No rush, just in your own time on the SS.:bighug:

You are right to be concerned about low numbers. In general (but I am talking about unpredicatble cats:cat:), the lower the preshot, the flatter the cycle. Which makes it more predictable. However, again it's something you learn over time, which is how Jade uses the insulin. For as new as you are, you are doing a fantastic job.
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Thank you!!! I hope I didn’t come across snippy!! :bighug::arghh::bighug:
 
Jill Hollister said:
High doesn’t worry me like low does
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The benefit of all this testing is learning how Jade responds to both foods and insulin.....As you gain more experience, you'll start trying different things to see what works best for her.

Like today you went with 9%+15% when she dropped to 80.....Next time, maybe try just the 9% and test again in 20-30 ....IF she continues to drop, you'll know that maybe extra carbs are necessary, but you may find that 9% would have kept her right in the 80-90 range

It's all trial and error at the beginning. I assure you none of us started shooting lower numbers and we all panicked and over-fed the first time our cats dropped too low!

The first time China dropped below 50, I was still quite new. I knew to give her some Karo/honey/syrup but didn't know how much!!

So I dumped about a cup full of pancake syrup into a bowl and gave it to her (she liked it!!!)

Needless to say, she went up...and up...and up!!

I learned later that I was supposed to give her a drop or two.....not half the bottle!!!;):rolleyes:o_O
 
Chris & China said:
The benefit of all this testing is learning how Jade responds to both foods and insulin.....As you gain more experience, you'll start trying different things to see what works best for her.

Like today you went with 9%+15% when she dropped to 80.....Next time, maybe try just the 9% and test again in 20-30 ....IF she continues to drop, you'll know that maybe extra carbs are necessary, but you may find that 9% would have kept her right in the 80-90 range

It's all trial and error at the beginning. I assure you none of us started shooting lower numbers and we all panicked and over-fed the first time our cats dropped too low!

The first time China dropped below 50, I was still quite new. I knew to give her some Karo/honey/syrup but didn't know how much!!

So I dumped about a cup full of pancake syrup into a bowl and gave it to her (she liked it!!!)

Needless to say, she went up...and up...and up!!

I learned later that I was supposed to give her a drop or two.....not half the bottle!!!;):rolleyes:o_O
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So ... do you think she’s ok?? I worry that the error part of trial and error will kill her when I’m not home.
 
Hi Jill
You're doing great! It took me a LOT longer to catch on.
I started a conversation with you. If you go all the way to the top on the left & click on conversations I think you'll be able to read it.
 
Headed home... fingers crossed. And since she’s dropping numbers, is she getting too much even being reduced from 1 unit to .75? Should I try just .5? @Chris & China and is her number ok to shoot at? Or is this food induced? @Wendy&Neko@Dyana
 
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Jill Hollister said:
339 @ + 10!! I’ll take it!!
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I think this is probably due to going a little overboard on the food, as well as probably some "bouncing" going on because of the fast drop from 155 to 80

On your spreadsheet, you need to keep the test numbers in the actual cells. Look at China's 2015 spreadsheet (7/5/15....the PM cycle)

See how I have 2 tests entered in the same cell? A 55 in the +3 cell and then a 45 at +3.75....Since those two numbers are different color codes (one dark green, one light green), I chose the color with the most significance….in this case, the light green since that's a "too low" number)

When you enter more than just a number into a cell, you will have to choose the color code manually. Just enter your numbers (like 105 @+2, 80 @+2.5) and then go to the top of the spreadsheet and click on the icon that looks like a small can of paint …..choose the most significant color (in this case, dark green for the 80 since that's more important right now than the blue 105)
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Chris & China said:
I think this is probably due to going a little overboard on the food, as well as probably some "bouncing" going on because of the fast drop from 155 to 80

On your spreadsheet, you need to keep the test numbers in the actual cells. Look at China's 2015 spreadsheet (7/5/15....the PM cycle)

See how I have 2 tests entered in the same cell? A 55 in the +3 cell and then a 45 at +3.75....Since those two numbers are different color codes (one dark green, one light green), I chose the color with the most significance….in this case, the light green since that's a "too low" number)

When you enter more than just a number into a cell, you will have to choose the color code manually. Just enter your numbers (like 105 @+2, 80 @+2.5) and then go to the top of the spreadsheet and click on the icon that looks like a small can of paint …..choose the most significant color (in this case, dark green for the 80 since that's more important right now than the blue 105)
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Ahhhhhh..yes I will work on that asap. Thank you!!
So, should I skip her shot? Or proceed with .75? I'd hate to have another bad cycle.
 
Remember, only 1 new post per day......You can edit your subject line as you need to.

Doesn't matter what she was fed today as long as she hasn't eaten for the 2 hours before shot time.

Shoot the .75
 
Chris & China said:
Hard to believe I had to go back 3 years to find a spreadsheet where I actually tested China more than once in the same hour.....LOL
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Thats good tho!! Thank you for searching the archives! I know I'm all over the place on this, I'm learning,I think. I had changed the title only, but panicked when I didn't get a response and it's getting so close to shoot time, that's why I posted a new one.
 
I will test her again shortly and make sure she's at an okay number, then work on fixing my spreadsheet. I was so frantic earlier, I just did what I could to get the info up at all.
 
Chris & China said:
Remember, only 1 new post per day......You can edit your subject line as you need to.

Doesn't matter what she was fed today as long as she hasn't eaten for the 2 hours before shot time.

Shoot the .75
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It's been 2 hours. Should I expect a drop as opposed to a rise at +2? Or expectations should be the same as usual? Up, then a slow decline?
 
Jill Hollister said:
I had changed the title only, but panicked when I didn't get a response and it's getting so close to shoot time, that's why I posted a new one.
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But your title still says the same thing it's said since earlier today.....when we're scanning the forums, if there's not a significant change, we're probably not going to notice right away.

If you keep your subject line updated with just the Date/Cats name, AMPS ##, + numbers, PMPS ##, you'll still have plenty of room to add something like "NEED ADVICE SOON" …..Once someone answers your question, you go back and edit it out again and just leave the basics.
 
Jill Hollister said:
Or expectations should be the same as usual? Up, then a slow decline?
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We'll both know in 2 hours......LOL

If there's some bouncing going on, this upcoming cycle could look nothing like what you're "used to"

ETA...with the fast drop (or even just the drop into lower numbers that her body isn't used to anymore) her liver could have panicked and released stored sugars and hormones to bring her back up (bouncing)….it can take up to 3 days for those hormones to clear out, so when a cat is bouncing, the "rules" don't necessarily matter. (not that they ever really did anyway....cats are notorious for not playing by any rules)
 
Chris & China said:
But your title still says the same thing it's said since earlier today.....when we're scanning the forums, if there's not a significant change, we're probably not going to notice right away.

If you keep your subject line updated with just the Date/Cats name, AMPS ##, + numbers, PMPS ##, you'll still have plenty of room to add something like "NEED ADVICE SOON" …..Once someone answers your question, you go back and edit it out again and just leave the basics.
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I think I did have that, to be honest. Then I think I changed it, then did a new thread.
 
It's too soon to "expect" anything

Just shoot at the normal time and get a +2

I may not be online late tonight, but if you run into trouble, just make sure your subject line is crystal clear that you need help soon
 
Chris & China said:
That's a great idea though!!

We tell a lot of people to take a magic marker and put the carb % on the can so it's easy to grab what you need quickly

When you're in the middle of a panic, it's no time to start checking the food chart to make sure you're feeding what you intend to feed!
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Yep..all marked with Sharpies!!
 
Chris & China said:
I think this is probably due to going a little overboard on the food, as well as probably some "bouncing" going on because of the fast drop from 155 to 80

On your spreadsheet, you need to keep the test numbers in the actual cells. Look at China's 2015 spreadsheet (7/5/15....the PM cycle)

See how I have 2 tests entered in the same cell? A 55 in the +3 cell and then a 45 at +3.75....Since those two numbers are different color codes (one dark green, one light green), I chose the color with the most significance….in this case, the light green since that's a "too low" number)

When you enter more than just a number into a cell, you will have to choose the color code manually. Just enter your numbers (like 105 @+2, 80 @+2.5) and then go to the top of the spreadsheet and click on the icon that looks like a small can of paint …..choose the most significant color (in this case, dark green for the 80 since that's more important right now than the blue 105)
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I think I fixed our SS with the exception of one day!!
 
Jill Hollister said:
I think I fixed our SS with the exception of one day!!
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I would put the 80 in the +2 cell since it was 80 @ +2.5

Color it green instead of the blue (for the 105) because the 80 is the more "important" number

In the +3 cell, you'd have 108 @+3, 112 @+3.5

In the +4 cell, you'd have 170 @+4.5
 
Chris & China said:
I would put the 80 in the +2 cell since it was 80 @ +2.5

Color it green instead of the blue (for the 105) because the 80 is the more "important" number

In the +3 cell, you'd have 108 @+3, 112 @+3.5

In the +4 cell, you'd have 170 @+4.5
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Ok..I'l try again tomorrow. I'm starting to get anxious about our +2 test coming up soon. I'll put the results up right away and hope that you're still up and can maybe help me to understand if it's good news or bad news.
 
Great job today!
The forum and all the rules and lingo took me a while to catch on to as well, you will get there :smuggrin:

Jill Hollister said:
I'm starting to get anxious about our +2 test coming up soon. I'll put the results up right away and hope that you're still up and can maybe help me to understand if it's good news or bad news.
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Breathe! Jade is safe. Let's see how she likes this .75 dose. I suspect you both will do very well.
 
Chris & China said:
The benefit of all this testing is learning how Jade responds to both foods and insulin.....As you gain more experience, you'll start trying different things to see what works best for her.

Like today you went with 9%+15% when she dropped to 80.....Next time, maybe try just the 9% and test again in 20-30 ....IF she continues to drop, you'll know that maybe extra carbs are necessary, but you may find that 9% would have kept her right in the 80-90 range

It's all trial and error at the beginning. I assure you none of us started shooting lower numbers and we all panicked and over-fed the first time our cats dropped too low!

The first time China dropped below 50, I was still quite new. I knew to give her some Karo/honey/syrup but didn't know how much!!

So I dumped about a cup full of pancake syrup into a bowl and gave it to her (she liked it!!!)

Needless to say, she went up...and up...and up!!

I learned later that I was supposed to give her a drop or two.....not half the bottle!!!;):rolleyes:o_O
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Been there done that, you freak out and then you freak out cause we gave to much, I’m sure we have all done it, I take it with a grain of salt now, I can fix the lows, I HATE the highs
 
Have u ever thought about getting a autofeeder, bella has one that is microchip, he wears a collar and if he walks up to his bowl it opens, if bella is lower in the am when I leave I put some MC in his bowl, makes me feel better
Those numbers were beautiful yesterday!!!! You want those dark greens
 
Bellasmom said:
Have u ever thought about getting a autofeeder, bella has one that is microchip, he wears a collar and if he walks up to his bowl it opens, if bella is lower in the am when I leave I put some MC in his bowl, makes me feel better
Those numbers were beautiful yesterday!!!! You want those dark greens
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I just bought an auto one...just need to set it up. :) I love your photo of Bella, He compliments your walls and decor beautifully, or the other way around. Gorgeous Bella Fella.
 
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