5.17 Bella amps 75,+1:15 63,+1:45 56,+2 54,+2:45 61,+4 81,+6 112,+9 190,pmps 272,+3 201

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@Gill & George the nadir must be happening after +7, am I right? DH woke me up at +7 and said it was 167 so I told him he could go to bed if he wanted, so I messed up ugh
 
I don't think you've messed up at all, I would have done the same.:bighug::bighug::bighug:

He might be nadiring now at amps, or he may nadir later than that, wait and see how this cycle plays out.

I think he decided to clear the bounce after that +7 last night. When you look back at the data after today you might have a better idea.
 
This looks more like a falling number at PS on second glance.
Be sure to get a +1 if it is lower than amps, or just the same, be ready for an active early part of the cycle.

I have to go out in the garden now, was on a :coffee::coffee: break, I'll check in on you an hour or so.
 
Gill & George said:
I don't think you've messed up at all, I would have done the same.:bighug::bighug::bighug:

He might be nadiring now at amps, or he may nadir later than that, wait and see how this cycle plays out.

I think he decided to clear the bounce after that +7 last night. When you look back at the data after today you might have a better idea.
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You might have a better idea lol I have no clue what he is doing with this crazy numbers lol lol
 
Gill & George said:
This looks more like a falling number at PS on second glance.
Be sure to get a +1 if it is lower than amps, or just the same, be ready for an active early part of the cycle.

I have to go out in the garden now, was on a :coffee::coffee: break, I'll check in on you an hour or so.
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Thanks Gill, I appreciate your help
 
Gill & George said:
This looks more like a falling number at PS on second glance.
Be sure to get a +1 if it is lower than amps, or just the same, be ready for an active early part of the cycle.

I have to go out in the garden now, was on a :coffee::coffee: break, I'll check in on you an hour or so.
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We are in an active cycle!
 
Yes you are.

He is clearing the bounce as you shot, I would give him a couple of teaspoons of food now.

High low carb, or MC would be my gut feeling. He most likely has not onset yet so having a little extra food (carbs in his system will help ofset the drop at onset)

(with George I'd err towards MC as he wasn't very carb sensitive)

As for the next test it's up to you, but no later than +2.
He may need more food then if he is continuing to drop or flat. Carb content of food will be dependent on the numbers.
 
Gill & George said:
Yes you are.

He is clearing the bounce as you shot, I would give him a couple of teaspoons of food now.

High low carb, or MC would be my gut feeling. He most likely has not onset yet so having a little extra food (carbs in his system will help ofset the drop at onset)

(with George I'd err towards MC as he wasn't very carb sensitive)

As for the next test it's up to you, but no later than +2.
He may need more food then if he is continuing to drop or flat. Carb content of food will be dependent on the numbers.
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Gave MC just now
 
Gill & George said:
Yes you are.

He is clearing the bounce as you shot, I would give him a couple of teaspoons of food now.

High low carb, or MC would be my gut feeling. He most likely has not onset yet so having a little extra food (carbs in his system will help ofset the drop at onset)

(with George I'd err towards MC as he wasn't very carb sensitive)

As for the next test it's up to you, but no later than +2.
He may need more food then if he is continuing to drop or flat. Carb content of food will be dependent on the numbers.
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How does a nadir happen at amps?
 
Bellasmom said:
@Kris & Teasel do I give more MC
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Yes. Keep up the small (1-2 tsp) snacks, wait and retest. I think you can wait 30 minutes between tests to allow a bit more time for food to act. If he gets to lime green I’d try HC snacks. And don’t worry - lime green doesn’t mean he’ll have visible hypo symptoms. If it all gets too much to handle, you have the option of feeding a full HC meal to stop the insulin’s action. He’d be fine if you have to do that and you’ll get him back.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Yes. Keep up the small (1-2 tsp) snacks, wait and retest. I think you can wait 30 minutes between tests to allow a bit more time for food to act. If he gets to lime green I’d try HC snacks. And don’t worry - lime green doesn’t mean he’ll have visible hypo symptoms. If it all gets too much to handle, you have the option of feeding a full HC meal to stop the insulin’s action. He’d be fine if you have to do that and you’ll get him back.
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Gave more, DH taking over I won't give HC unless necessary
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Yes. Keep up the small (1-2 tsp) snacks, wait and retest. I think you can wait 30 minutes between tests to allow a bit more time for food to act. If he gets to lime green I’d try HC snacks. And don’t worry - lime green doesn’t mean he’ll have visible hypo symptoms. If it all gets too much to handle, you have the option of feeding a full HC meal to stop the insulin’s action. He’d be fine if you have to do that and you’ll get him back.
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He's gonna retest in 30 7:30
 
The MC snacks seem to have him surfing.
I think every 30-45min for tests is OK at this stage, unless he drops below 50, then bring out the a couple of teaspoons of HC.

Sorry disappeared, it was feeding time at the zoo here.
 
Bellasmom said:
Sorry for confusion, I just had to leave for work, he went up to 61 is it safe now to wait longer to test so I can let DH know
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If the only extra food he had was at +1 I think I would say to DH to give him a teaspoon of LC to keep him surfing and check again in an hour. Which will be about +4 right?

If he is still the same or up at that point another teaspoon of LC and then wait for two hours, grabbing a test at +6
The higher carb you gave at +1 should have worn off by now, but being early in the cycle there is still a potential for numbers to drop. That's why I'm suggesting a little more food, hoping the LC will help him surf.
 
Bellasmom said:
@Gill & George so he is having his nadir at amps, how is that even possible? I don’t understand sorry for being:confused::confused:
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Nadir is simply the lowest point in the cycle, it can happen at anytime.

George for example used to nadir mostly at around +5 +6, when he was changing things up he would nadir early, that was often when he was on a reduction early cycle, I suspect as the dose and depot filled he got more duration.
I don't think todays cycle was the same as the previous two nights, he continued to go down, with the momentum of clearing the bounce. The other two nights we were looking at it looked as though he might have been flat or rising at amps, so he probably nadired earlier.

When clearing a bounce they can nadir at any point, George often cleared at the end of a cycle.
 
Gill & George said:
Nadir is simply the lowest point in the cycle, it can happen at anytime.

George for example used to nadir mostly at around +5 +6, when he was changing things up he would nadir early, that was often when he was on a reduction early cycle, I suspect as the dose and depot filled he got more duration.
I don't think todays cycle was the same as the previous two nights, he continued to go down, with the momentum of clearing the bounce. The other two nights we were looking at it looked as though he might have been flat or rising at amps, so he probably nadired earlier.

When clearing a bounce they can nadir at any point, George often cleared at the end of a cycle.
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So how often now should DH test him? And thank you
 
+4 if he is flat or rising LC snack and then check at +6 then +8/+9

Obviously if he bounces pokey break.
And if he were to drop then he may need to step up the testing again.
 
Looking at Bellas numbers he more often than not nadirs midcycle. Some of the numbers (the pinks) had me thinking whether he was changing things up.
It wouldn't surprise me if he tells you he is done with this dose in the not to distant future.
You are doing great, and so is DH Bella is in good hands.
 
Gill & George said:
Looking at Bellas numbers he more often than not nadirs midcycle. Some of the numbers (the pinks) had me thinking whether he was changing things up.
It wouldn't surprise me if he tells you he is done with this dose in the not to distant future.
You are doing great, and so is DH Bella is in good hands.
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You mean done with the dose I just gave him this am?
 
You and dh make a get team. Look at Bella go. I can't analyze the trends or patterns either. Guess it's a good thing I'm not on Wall Street.
 
Bellasmom said:
You mean done with the dose I just gave him this am?
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Sorry what I mean is that I wouldn't be surprised if he earns a reduction in the not to distant future.
But you should hold this dose until he does drop below 50. Jumping the gun, and taking a reduction when it is not earned often back fires and sees you having to climb up the dosing ladder.
 
Gill & George said:
Sorry what I mean is that I wouldn't be surprised if he earns a reduction in the not to distant future.
But you should hold this dose until he does drop below 50. Jumping the gun, and taking a reduction when it is not earned often back fires and sees you having to climb up the dosing ladder.
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So I guess I don’t understand why give the MC and not just see what he does with the number on his own, cause he may have gone to the 40s had I not intervened with the MC, does that make since, I know what I’m trying to say lol not sure if I’m saying it right
 
I think he has, just don’t have the documentation, especially with those pinks, don’t you, trust me I’m no expert at this I’m just guessing
 
Bellasmom said:
So I guess I don’t understand why give the MC and not just see what he does with the number on his own, cause he may have gone to the 40s had I not intervened with the MC, does that make since, I know what I’m trying to say lol not sure if I’m saying it right
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Yes, I understand what you're saying. Letting him ride it out on the dose with no intervention can be an interesting experiment when you're home and want to see what a dose can do unopposed by food if you don't have enough data at that dose level. When you have a lot of data at a dose - as you do with the 1 u - and you see he's low very early in the cycle, intervening with food serves two functions: 1. you want to keep him away from the lime green cliff's edge for safety 2. you're trying to control the insulin's action and his response to keep him in a long run of nice dark green numbers.

Some people are able to take advantage of food steering all the time because they're at home to do the necessary testing and feeding. If you and DH's work schedules take you out of the house most days of the week this can be much harder to do so you might have to settle for keeping Bella a little bit further from that knife edge for safety's sake. :)
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Yes, I understand what you're saying. Letting him ride it out on the dose with no intervention can be an interesting experiment when you're home and want to see what a dose can do unopposed by food if you don't have enough data at that dose level. When you have a lot of data at a dose - as you do with the 1 u - and you see he's low very early in the cycle, intervening with food serves two functions: 1. you want to keep him away from the lime green cliff's edge for safety 2. you're trying to control the insulin's action and his response to keep him in a long run of nice dark green numbers.

Some people are able to take advantage of food steering all the time because they're at home to do the necessary testing and feeding. If you and DH's work schedules take you out of the house most days of the week this can be much harder to do so you might have to settle for keeping Bella a little bit further from that knife edge for safety's sake. :)
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So with intervening how do u know when he needs a reduction
 
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