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ziggywolf3

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I'm new to having a diabetic cat. We're slowly figuring everything out.I do have a question. Our vet put my 13yr old cat on Cosequin for arthritis.I believe she also has some Neuropathy .our vet said there's no research that shows that Zobaline helps,However I've read multiple reviews that people love it and it helped their cats alot.Needles to say I have some being delivered today. If there's something that might help her,I have to try it. So my question is, does anyone know if it's safe to keep giving my cat Cosequin and start her on Zobaline? Any help will be greatly appreciated!!
 
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I don't know about Cosequin but Zobaline cleared Silver's neuropathy in a matter of weeks. My vet said Silver had a brain disorder when it was a diabetes related symptom easily fixed with B12.
 
If you type neuropathy and zobaline into the forum search bar - this is a common topic. In summary, most of us use Zobaline for neuropathy recovery.
 
Cosequin and Zobaline are compatible, but they are used for treating different things. Cosequin is for arthritis, while Zobaline is for neuropathy.
 
Hello and welcome. What is your kitty's name?

Yes, we've had a number of people here with cats with arthritis and neuropathy. And some have used both Cosequin and Zobaline.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Hello and welcome. What is your kitty's name?

Yes, we've had a number of people here with cats with arthritis and neuropathy. And some have used both Cosequin and Zobaline.
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My kittys name is BooBoo. I would ask my vet, but when I asked about Zobaline she said there's no research that shows that it would help. When I went in the internet to research, it send to help cats as well as people. If it won't hurt her,I have to try it. She's our baby my son has had her since he was 3. He's going to be 16 in a few weeks. She's been here his whole life practically.
 
ziggywolf3 said:
Thank you Have you given then both together?
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I gave both for my boy. The main ingredient in zobaline is methylcobalamin, I eventually started using Nature's Best(I think that was the name) methylcobalamin instead of zobaline. Price difference was pretty significant. I did not notice much difference between the two but others have stuck with zobaline which also has some folate I believe to help increase absorption.

Zobaline is just a form of B12.
 
Juliet said:
I don't know about Cosequin but Zobaline cleared Silver's neuropathy in a matter of weeks. My vet said Silver had a brain disorder when it was a diabetes related symptom easily fixed with B12.
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That's great to hear my vet doesn't think it's neuropathy. How would she know for sure. My cat doesn't walk at the vets office at all. I'm looking for a new vet now. How many weeks until you saw some improvement?
 
My vet thought a lot of things.... I'll leave it at that.;) I noticed an improvement in a few weeks as well. He never fully walked on his hocks so I probably caught it relatively early. I noticed when he sat to eat a hind leg would kind of scoot out on him. He also walked a little stiff legged. A few weeks in and both had significantly improved. For the small cost and almost non-existent side effects I would highly recommend at least trying both.
 
ziggywolf3 said:
That's great to hear my vet doesn't think it's neuropathy. How would she know for sure. My cat doesn't walk at the vets office at all. I'm looking for a new vet now. How many weeks until you saw some improvement?
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Honestly if he's diabetic and been undiagnosed for a while you can be pretty sure it's neuropathy. I saw improvement in a few weeks.
 
ziggywolf3 said:
That's great to hear my vet doesn't think it's neuropathy. How would she know for sure. My cat doesn't walk at the vets office at all. I'm looking for a new vet now. How many weeks until you saw some improvement?
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Welcome!

It really helps to have blood sugar under reasonable control for Zobaline to be effective. I recall the study referenced under 300, but I don't recall if it was a human or pet meter.

Sometimes we see folks starting Zobaline before BG is well controlled and then they report it doesn't work. I think in those cases they may have needed more time to get BG under control.

Have you had a chance to get a spreadsheet going? Folks here love data! ;)
 
Carol is correct. Zobaline will not resolve the neuropathy until you have regulated the Blood Glucose (BG) in your kitteh.

I used Zobaline and BG regulation with Leo, and basically recovered him from horrible neuropathy back to mostly normal.
 
ziggywolf3 said:
She has both arthritis and neuropothy. That's why I was asking if you can give them both together.
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Yes you can. Please look at my signature to see that my old Tyler has been dealing with the same. His neuropathy was very bad but is hugely improved.

In my signature you will also see a link to a spreadsheet. That is Tyler's spreadsheet.

To pop info into your signature go to your profile and select signature. You will be able to type in a few basic notes like which insulin, probs like neuropathy,meds etc.

I don't want to overwhelm you but it would be great if you could start one. Have a read HERE
 
JeffJ said:
Carol is correct. Zobaline will not resolve the neuropathy until you have regulated the Blood Glucose (BG) in your kitteh.

I used Zobaline and BG regulation with Leo, and basically recovered him from horrible neuropathy back to mostly normal.
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Hmmmm don't agree. Silver's neuropathy cleared in three weeks long long before he was even close to being regulated. Every cat responds differently.
 
ziggywolf3 said:
That's great to hear my vet doesn't think it's neuropathy. How would she know for sure. My cat doesn't walk at the vets office at all. I'm looking for a new vet now. How many weeks until you saw some improvement?
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The only information your vet has to go on is the FD diagnosis and your description of what's going on, if your kitty won't walk in the office. Before you give up on your vet, perhaps you could send her a video of your cat walking and some info in Zobaline.

Not all uncontrolled diabetic kitties have neuropathy. Mine is 16 years old, going on one year of diagnosis, never well controlled. He had some weakness in his rear legs, can't jump as high. He's improved a lot on gabapentin (pain med), so he doesn't appear to have neuropathy at this point. ECID.

Based on her response, you can decide if you need a new vet. (Yes, I'm playing "Vet's Advocate")
 
Juliet said:
Silver's neuropathy cleared in three weeks long long before he was even close to being regulated.
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That's fine to disagree. The root cause of diabetes-caused neuropathy is high blood sugar. The excess sugar in the blood effectively causes glucose toxicity. It is correct that it does not occur in all kittehs (or humans for that matter).

One of the side effects of high BG is nerve damage - specifically the neural sheaths. Most often this manifests in the back legs for cats. BG control is key to reversal. B12 helps with the regeneration.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/diabetic-neuropathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20371580
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Carol in Chicago said:
Welcome!

It really helps to have blood sugar under reasonable control for Zobaline to be effective. I recall the study referenced under 300, but I don't recall if it was a human or pet meter.

Sometimes we see folks starting Zobaline before BG is well controlled and then they report it doesn't work. I think in those cases they may have needed more time to get BG under control.

Have you had a chance to get a spreadsheet going? Folks here love data! ;)
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we are working on the BG .I started her on Zobaline because I want it in her system as we get her BG under control.
 
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