Vet didn’t tell me remission was a possibility but I suspect my cat is entering remission

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LeosGotTheBetus

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I’m super new on this website, I’m 22 and living on my own in the city going to school. In early February my cat (M, 6yr) was diagnosed with diabetes. I thought he had a UTI and then his bg was 475 and suddenly I was giving him insulin every day, and accepted that I’d be doing this for a long time. And it went well from the start, 7u had his bg consistently 130-150 for about a few weeks until i lowered it to 5u based off his numbers.. then 3.. now we’re on 1. My family vet who we have long trusted first drew suspicion when they clipped his toe nails to the wick in order to draw blood to check bg... I refused the moment they told me to do that and bought lancets and learned to prick his ear immediately. I’ve been reading up as much as possible and trying to inform myself because I don’t feel very supported by that vet. They did not tell me remission was a possibility which I find irrisponsible because over 3 months he’s gone from 9u of novalin twice daily, to 1u. If I blindly gave him 9u the whole time, he’d be in serious trouble! Because this vet is in my hometown and it’s a hassle to get him there, I haven’t been back. I’ve been taking his bg with every shot and he seems to be hovering around 130-150 with and without insulin (once his bg was 77 after giving him 3u, so I skipped that dose. The next day he was 135, so I didn’t give him insulin again... next check, he was 142. Since then I read online that in the case of a cat with a “sputtering pancreas” it’s best to keep up with insulin therapy as long as possible even if it’s >1u, just to give the pancreas as much help to heal as possible, so I’m doing 1u. I’m not sure exactly why I’m posting this as I’ve essentially already decided to just keep a log of his numbers and after 2 weeks of consistently low bg numbers on >1u, to call my vet. I guess I’m looking for some other people going through this, I’m due to graduate in 2 weeks and it’s been stressful but I know nobody with a diabetic cat and my vet has been non-communicative. Could his low numbers be a mistake? It’s almost always between 130-150. Should I not trust my bg meter because it’s a human meter? I can’t afford to be buying expensive equipment right now but I want to be sure he’s really in remission before I just stop giving him insulin. Thoughts/comments are Super Super appreciated, I’ve never posted on a forum like this so I don’t know how this works, I just want to feel less alone in dealing with such a serious condition. Thanks!
 
That picture Leo looks very pleased with himself. Gave me the chills when I read how the vet draws blood.

Congrats on up coming graduation. What did you major in?
 
over 3 months he’s gone from 9u of novalin twice daily, to 1u. If I blindly gave him 9u the whole time, he’d be in serious trouble!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:!!!!!!!

9U is a lot of Novalin!!!!! And you say that the vet started you on 7U????? Typical starting dose for a cat is more like the 1U you are on now. So glad you weren't shooting blind, the results could have been absolutely tragic-- good job trusting your instincts!!!!
 
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:!!!!!!!

9U is a lot of Novalin!!!!! And you say that the vet started you on 7U????? Typical starting dose for a cat is more like the 1U you are on now. So glad you weren't shooting blind, the results could have been absolutely tragic-- good job trusting your instincts!!!!


The vet had him on 9u at the vet, told me to go down to 7 when I brought him home! And they were feeding him dry food only!
 
So glad you decided to home test!!! Those are nice numbers, a little higher than normal on a human meter. If you can set up put spreadsheet we will be better able to help you determine if and when Leo is in remission.
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/fdmb-spreadsheet-instructions.130337/

Thanks, I’m gonna do that (and fill in signature info) soon. Thank you for the comment on the numbers cuz I was wondering.. I have a ReliOn Premeir Voice meter. What numbers are ideal on a human meter?
 
That picture Leo looks very pleased with himself. Gave me the chills when I read how the vet draws blood.

Congrats on up coming graduation. What did you major in?

Thanks! I’m a fine art major :) and yes, he cried like I’ve never heard him cry before when the vet tried to “show me how”... I feel queasy just thinking about it and we perfected the art of ear pricking real fast! He’s been really really good with it all :’)
 
The vet had him on 9u at the vet, told me to go down to 7 when I brought him home! And they were feeding him dry food only!

The dry food was probably what was keeping him from crashing completely, but, yikes!!!
I have a ReliOn Premeir Voice meter. What numbers are ideal on a human meter?

"Normal" for a cat is about 50-120 on a human meter. While you are still giving insulin, though, especially an insulin like Novalin that hits "hard and fast", you generally want to leave a decent safety margin. When you get the spreadsheet up and running, the folks who know Novalin can look at where Leo's been on the different doses he's been on and help you navigate the rest of the way (anti-jinx!) to remission.
 
The dry food was probably what was keeping him from crashing completely, but, yikes!!!


"Normal" for a cat is about 50-120 on a human meter. While you are still giving insulin, though, especially an insulin like Novalin that hits "hard and fast", you generally want to leave a decent safety margin. When you get the spreadsheet up and running, the folks who know Novalin can look at where Leo's been on the different doses he's been on and help you navigate the rest of the way (anti-jinx!) to remission.

Ahh thanks so much for the info! Goood to know the human meter range. I have the majority of our diabetic experience documented, so I’ll get that spreadsheet updated and posted asap! I’ve read that longer lasting insulin is usually better, but novalin has seemed to be just fine for Leo. Is that just a generalization or should I consider switching even though he’s doing well? I feel like nah lol sorry for so many questions I just haven’t had the opportunity to even ask anyone!
 
Way to trust your instincts! Cutting the nail too short for blood gives me serious shivers-I feel bad for all the other patients who followed that vets orders!

On a side note, your user name is amazing :cat: Good luck and congrats on getting Leo closer to remission!
 
Way to trust your instincts! Cutting the nail too short for blood gives me serious shivers-I feel bad for all the other patients who followed that vets orders!

On a side note, your user name is amazing :cat: Good luck and congrats on getting Leo closer to remission!


Thanks so much! Lol my betus bunny ❤️ He handles his betus like a champ!

And goodness yes, I’m so relieved every time I take his bg which is every day now, he doesn’t resist at all because
I think he knows it’s the alternative.. he came home from the vet w painful looking little toes :( thankfully his nails have grown back!
 
Thanks so much! Lol my betus bunny ❤️ He handles his betus like a champ!

And goodness yes, I’m so relieved every time I take his bg which is every day now, he doesn’t resist at all because
I think he knows it’s the alternative.. he came home from the vet w painful looking little toes :( thankfully his nails have grown back!
Poor guy!! Good thing he has such a smart mama. I was worried about Tessie's poor little ears at first but I am shocked at what a good kitty she is for it. Her ears had some bruising at first but they look totally normal now and I think she's grown to truly enjoy getting tested (most likely the treats and attention). It really makes it easy when they cooperate, plus way better than shooting blind. If you were still giving him 7 units with these low numbers...I don't even want to think about it!! You're doing an awesome job!
 
Thanks so much it means a lot :) I'm sure you and everyone else on here can understand how jarring it is to find that your little animal companion is faced with this diagnosis, its hard to navigate without any support but just reading this forum has helped so much!
I'm glad to hear Tessie is good with her bg tests! I also noticed that Leo's ears were a bit bruised but I've been doing it twice a day and they dont seem too bad!
 
Thanks so much it means a lot :) I'm sure you and everyone else on here can understand how jarring it is to find that your little animal companion is faced with this diagnosis, its hard to navigate without any support but just reading this forum has helped so much!
I'm glad to hear Tessie is good with her bg tests! I also noticed that Leo's ears were a bit bruised but I've been doing it twice a day and they dont seem too bad!
Holding some pressure over the poked area for a minute or two really seemed to help cut down on the bruising, but I also think their ears just really get used to it.

It is crazy what an adjustment this diagnoses can be. So far, we are adjusting well (most days lol) but with summer coming up, I know I'm going to be missing out on some fun things. That probably makes me look a little selfish but don't worry, her heath is definitely more of a priority to me than summer fun. I'm constantly reminding myself one day at a time and who knows-maybe Tessie will be on her way to remmission one day too!
 
That's exactly how I feel, in that my school schedule makes it so that I often need to go home to give his shot and come back to school. Originally I was upset that I could nolonger leave food out over the weekend and dip out for a few days, but I've been actually taking Leo with me! For me it became less of "what can't I do" and more of "where can I bring him with me!" Especially since I've found that he travels well.
I definitely dont think it makes you selfish, though! This diagnosis is such a high responsibility and it comes so unexpected and requires many adjustments, i think its only natural to feel that way. what's important in the end is that your cat is your top priority :) It's honestly given me and Leo quite the bond, theres a very parental relationship happening between us. He recognizes that I'm his caretaker and I feel like his mom!
 
Cheers from Argentina. I am new to the site and to the condition as well, so I cannot give you any advice but I just wanted to say how impressed I am with the way you handled the situation, trusting your insticts, dealing with school and graduation being so young. Truly inspirational how responsibly you behaved and how you took your mommy duties and loving care in a stride. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Leo is a dollbaby!! Way to go momma bean. Leo is a lucky guy. You can get some neosporin with pain relief for his ears, just a tiny bit on those ears will help. It also helps the blood bead. Good job and congratulations on your graduating. Head bumps and scritches.
 
Thank you guys so much! This is honestly exactly what I needed to hear as I’m giving Leo his insulin before I go back to school and finish my paper. He came to me in a really special way and we’ve always had a bond but especially since the diagnosis, he really is my baby and he’s my priority :’)
 
Leo is a dollbaby!! Way to go momma bean. Leo is a lucky guy. You can get some neosporin with pain relief for his ears, just a tiny bit on those ears will help. It also helps the blood bead. Good job and congratulations on your graduating. Head bumps and scritches.


Also I don’t know if this is weird but I just looked at your spreadsheet and it seems like you put so much energy into phoebes care and dang those are some good numbers! Props to you!
 
it seems like you put so much energy into phoebes care

Once you get your routine down, it's no more work than brushing your teeth twice a day. I can test/feed/shoot China in less than 5 minutes and getting tests in between takes about 30 seconds. At first it seems like it's going to take a lot of work, but with a little practice and time, it really becomes part of your routine life.

we’ve always had a bond but especially since the diagnosis, he really is my baby and he’s my priority :’)

That's the truth!! The bond we develop with our sugarcats is so much beyond what most people can understand....but everyone here gets it!!

Congrats on getting such a good start!! You've got this!!
 
I honestly remember when they told me, just immediately thinking “okay, I guess were doing this now.” I immediately knew I’d fully take on the responsibility and I’m just soooo grateful that my Leo is the most gentle little cat, he doesn’t seem to mind his shots or tests one bit to be honest. I’m also incredibly lucky that I make my own hours when I work (I dogwalk) and that I live close enough to school to work it into my schedule. Thinking positive helps so much!
 
Also I don’t know if this is weird but I just looked at your spreadsheet and it seems like you put so much energy into phoebes care and dang those are some good numbers! Props to you!
I do put some energy into her care, I'm lucky I can stay home with Phoebe, so that helps. It becomes routine really, and she even reminds me when I get running a little late. I don't push all my testing on others, I'm a self proclaimed testaholic. :) thank you for the props, but everyone on here, is here for one thing, our love of our sugarbabies. The bond is so much deeper. I never knew I could love her more until we started on this dance.
 
Everyone’s strong love and commitment to their babies has inspired me so much :) the knowledge I’ve accumulated on this forum just in the last 48 hours has made me feel so empowered and excited to be there for my Leo as much as I possibly can! I keep saying the same thing to everyone, he came to me in a strange way and was always a special cat but our bond is so much stronger now. Love it ❤️
 
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