Literally fully frustrated AGAIN

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Gretchen(sugarbaby)&bobbi

Gretchen(sugarbaby)&bobbi

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497. I know it was yet another freaking miss this am. And tonight...the #%^*’ needle bent again so I know it’s a miss too.
10 hour shift and she has poop all over her butt. Transitioned to fast mixing old food with new.
If the new 29g needles that arrive tomorrow don’t help I’m about to throw my arms up in frustration. Suggestions on how to give shots aren’t needed I’ve read and tried til I’m literally blue in the face.
I just want to cuss or cry!
 
Sorry you're having a hard time with it. :( I'm sure it's extremely frustrating. Honestly at that high id probably give A half unit extra if you are sure she doesn't get much of it.
 
Would it be possible for you to book some time with a vet tech at your clinic to go over the whole process of giving a shot from start to finish? You could practice there using saline in a syringe with the tech watching and try troubleshooting the issues. It might be time well spent.
 
Also try posting a new thread asking if anyone in your area might be able to help. Or even contact a local rescue, they might have someone experienced with giving injections. Maybe not insulin but you need help with technique.
 
Yes, a 31 gauge needle is thin. Until your new needles arrive, you could try this:

Place the cat perpendicular to you.
Make a large tent in the scruff with your left hand.
Check with your left thumb that indeed you have created a tent with the opening at the body end and not the head end.
Hold the needle by the cylinder about 1/3 away from the needle end.
Position the cylinder roughly parallel to the spine. (This way you know that you are going to enter the tent and not hit anything hard.)
Push the needle with as little force as necessary.
Once the needle is in, quickly move your right hand up to the plunger and push down the plunger.

Holding the needle by the cylinder might help you keep everything straight and hopefully not get a bend.
 
I’m sorry again all...I need to sit on my thumbs (I’m on phone thumb typing) when I’m as frustrated as I was last night. I would never just give up on my Gretchen. And although I know they can sense it, I am very gentle and soft spoken with her. Then I come here and let loose lol.

@Red & Rover (GA) - that is one I had not heard. I will definitely try this this am. And I will go back to vet and get help and have them shave a few spots if new needles don’t work. I’ll have to use the hair like 31g this am and the 29g’s come today.
 
It can also help sometimes if you place the tip of the needle against the skin in the tent then instead of pushing the needle in with your right hand, you hold the cylinder firmly in place and push the tent of skin into the needle with your left hand.

Edit: this was the way I was taught to be subq fluids. I don't know whether it will work with a smaller needle.
 
She’s a grudge holding type. She’s starting to not trust me. I’ll brush and spend time with her over my days off but she knows. Gretchen never has been a cuddly cat and this is really taking it toll on both of us
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Would it be possible for you to book some time with a vet tech at your clinic to go over the whole process of giving a shot from start to finish? You could practice there using saline in a syringe with the tech watching and try troubleshooting the issues. It might be time well spent.
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Love that idea Kris
 
Gretchen(sugarbaby)&bobbi said:
Too late. @JanetNJ suggested to so I did
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Hi Gretchen, I’m sorry you are having trouble with this, you have been given some great advice, I promise it will get easier once you get the hang of it. :bighug:

When did you give the 2 units and when did you give the additional half unit? Was it at regular shot time? Can you mark on your SS when the insulins were given so that it is documented?
 
Stacy & Asia said:
Hi Gretchen, I’m sorry you are having trouble with this, you have been given some great advice, I promise it will get easier once you get the hang of it. :bighug:

When did you give the 2 units and when did you give the additional half unit? Was it at regular shot time? Can you mark on your SS when the insulins were given so that it is documented?
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I did. I did the half right after I gave the 2 and all at regular time..right around 11a. Since she’s been running so high (cause of all my misses) I’m not too worried.
 
“You, my dear, are the center of so much stress”
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At least her pupils aren’t dilated. I need to go feed horses...I plan on testing BG at 1.
 
I bent a few syringes with Nigel and he once ran down the hall with a syringe hanging off him. I felt like dr. Mengele.
I switched from the scruff area to the back shoulder. I get Noah on his side to relax the muscles, give him a little back rub to relax, do a half tent and slide a 29 gauge in almost perpendicular to his body and behind his ribs. He is a nervous boy but this works every time. I do not use the elephant size U40 syringes that Caninsulin supplies, they're awful.
 
But you haven't seen me come downstairs in the morning, head for the coffee pot when I see a glimmer of medical glass. The house is set for 68 at night so not a complete loss.
Or.... A knock at the apartment door when the hallway was a big adventure. "Is this your cat?" Ooops, bad kitty!
 
This has really helped me. The BD lancets feel huge between your fingers, same idea as the extra fat ballpoint pens for people with hand injuries or arthritis. They come in a bunch of different gauges so they might look bigger but they're not. I use Monoject syringes; they have a softer feel to them, the tangs at the top are bigger and wider than other syringes so you have a better grip, I've never seen one I had trouble reading. They also have a scary long needle (1/2 inch, 12.7mm) but it's no big deal and not dangerous. They can be hard to find in stores so I hoard 400 at a time.
My other Voodoo is to lay everything out in front of Noah so he isn't surprised or feels like I'm sneaking up on him. I'll pull gently his tail, sing a song, whatever he wants as long as it's not drama. Needles have gotten shorter in the last 5 years because they're made for humans who aren't covered in hair and they don't scare the legal department. I really hopes this helps you.
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After doing a tighter curve yesterday I must take back all my frustrations...I know there was a couple of fur grabs but now I’m seeing it’s the insulin spiking. I am going to call vet as soon as coffee migrates to my brain and see if he will prescribe Prozinc
 
Call some local pharmacies and ask if they will sell you a pack of 10 insulin syringes for use with novolin. Take in an old syringe to compare.
 
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