? Help! PM dosage advice needed

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She is def eating better due to cerenia I’m sure. I guess tomorrow will tell if she’s vomits or doesn’t eat since today is her last dose. I will try the reduction today. She isn’t showing signs of pain but of course who can tell in cats. Shes not doing anything alarmingly like
hiding and she is jumping up and down sofas and beds so...I think it’s managed.
I heard pancreatitis can last any range of days or months. Yikes.

Ok so I will move to a fat 1 this week get evening numbers and curve Saturday. If my evening nadir numbers are high I’ll post for advice. Do you know any experiences ProZinc users?
 
@Djamila is very experienced as is @Rachel. I’ve used ProZinc too. We’ve all offered feedback, Djamila just this morning. As frustrating as it is, there’s no “set and forget” for insulin dosing. What worked even a week ago might not work today. As we say, this is a dance : kitty sets the steps and you follow. The BG testing routine we recommend and keep coming back to is the best way we know to see what kitty’s steps are and we follow by assessing insulin dose and adjusting as needed.
 
Oh gosh, Jena, I'm so sorry! I didn't in any way mean to make you feel like you aren't doing a good job. You are doing a good job - this is just complicated, and there are so many "if this....then that....except when it's this other thing....." that it really takes a lot of minds to figure out some of the more complicated steps of this dance.

If I remember right, you're dealing with hyperthyroid, pancreatitis, diabetes, and arthritis at least - and I might be forgetting something...?

Because of the inflammation in the arthritis and the pancreatitis, your numbers are probably not going to be all pretty blues and greens. Inflammation impacts BG, and it can be unpredictable and variable at times. Which means you may need to lower the dose for a few days here, raise it for a few days there....this isn't going to be a super easy case to manage.

So yes, if you get a lime green, you lower the dose. But it might just be for a few cycles and then you may need to raise it again. Or you might not need to lower after a lime green - but it will take a few times of seeing one, collecting data on what she does in the hour or two after that, and what she does during the cycle or two after that - and then that data helps figure out how to respond the next time.

Okay, so that's the ideal way to manage it. However, please know that we all understand how crazy-making this can all be. The constant stress of trying to manage all of these health issues can sometimes be more than we can handle, and if that's the case, it's okay to say that and we can help you manage it with your current level of testing - our approach is to make sure you have all of the information about how to manage FD in a very hands-on way. But we also respect and understand that it isn't always possible - both from a schedule standpoint and from an anxiety/stress one. We care about the people here as much as we care about the kitties.

Here is what I would suggest at this point - As I mentioned, we aren't sure exactly what's going on right now, so I wouldn't lower the dose tonight. These high numbers could be bouncing or pancreatitis - and I would lean toward the latter. That lime green was a few days ago, so I wouldn't use that as the decision maker today. Do you have numbers from today that you can share? My gut is that she is rising from being sick, but I'd love to confirm that before tomorrow morning if we can.

If you lower it while she's sick and needs more, it can lead to ketones and as you know from first hand experience, that's to be avoided. So when you get a chance, put your numbers from today into the spreadsheet and then we can try to make a better decision about dosing as you head into the week.

It looks like you opened a second thread asking for input, so after this, I'll post on your new thread instead, and if you have questions from this, maybe post over there so we can just move the discussion onto the new thread. And again, I'm so so sorry if I made you feel bad with the earlier post. You are managing a lot here and we want to support you as you move through this journey! :bighug:
 
Posting here in the Prozinc forum as you've been doing will get you experienced Prozinc users. I spend almost all my available time here instead of Main because I only have so much time...and I know I can be helpful to Prozinc users far more than to other insulin users.

This is definitely not easy...having a kitty with lots of health issues is hard on you as well as them. And having some emotional moments is fine (sometime let me tell you about the complete breakdowns I have had...trust me we ALL do it). Just remember that unfortunately with diabetes, there is no way to just set an insulin dose and go with it. The needs change over time...that's why we advocate testing so much. Because you'll need to change dosages as the numbers change. The good news is that you can really help control how she is doing! And while that's stressful as heck, it's also nice because it means you can adjust things as needed due to other illnesses or any factors that affect things. That really helps me because it means I can control SOMETHING...and hopefully help her feel better.

I'm with Djamila on this. I'd not lower the dose just yet...get mid cycle tests in WHEN YOU CAN...we totally get that you can't do that while at work. And as Djamila said above, you do have to regulate what you're doing for kitty with what you have to do for YOURSELF. Sometimes you need a break...we've had plenty of folks who focus on helping their kitty feel good without worrying too much about trying to hit remission. The goal is to help both of you deal with this...and that doesn't have to mean going crazy with testing and trying to walk that fine line of getting green numbers that aren't too low. It just means doing the best you can and letting us know what factors are in play so we can help you figure out how to both help your kitty without completely driving you insane. :bighug:
 
Ah-ha! Those pinks are today! Got it. And yes, it's tricky on the phones since you can only see such a small section at a time.

How many hours from PM shot time until bed?
 
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