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Hi All,

My cat Cocoa was just diagnosed as diabetic on Wednesday 1/18/18. He has been on Glargine since that day 1 unit twice a day. I was able to take some time off from work to help him get some what stable and in a routine. Tomorrow is my first day back he will be alone for 9 hours. Is there anything special I should do?

Also I just took his BP and it was 488 I had to poke him a few time to get blood so I am wondering if that is a bad reading since the flight or fight had kicked in. He was not having it and rather mad.

Any advice for me or words of encouragement?
 
Cocoa12 said:
Hi All,

My cat Cocoa was just diagnosed as diabetic on Wednesday 1/18/18. He has been on Glargine since that day 1 unit twice a day. I was able to take some time off from work to help him get some what stable and in a routine. Tomorrow is my first day back he will be alone for 9 hours. Is there anything special I should do?

Also I just took his BP and it was 488 I had to poke him a few time to get blood so I am wondering if that is a bad reading since the flight or fight had kicked in. He was not having it and rather mad.

Any advice for me or words of encouragement?
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Welcome to FDMB. :)There's tons of people here who know scads more than I, and I am going to call them out here. But meanwhile, yes, I think the stress may have caused some elevation. To really help you though, we do need you to start recording Cocoa's blood glucose (BG) readings. To do this you need to set up a chart. @Marje and Gracie can help you with this. I see that @Gill & George are on now, so I'm calling on her now. @tiffmaxee is extremely knowledgeable as well.

You and Cocoa will do very well here. We're good caring people with lots of experience, and we will help you. Right now it would help us help you, if you can tell us all the blood glucose (BG) readings Cocoa has had so far.
Here is are 2 links to documents specifically meant for newcomers:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/updated-tips-for-new-members.173572/#post-2116145
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...the-basics-new-to-the-group-start-here.18139/

You're not alone in this.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Kathy and TiTi said:
Welcome to FDMB. :)There's tons of people here who know scads more than I, and I am going to call them out here. But meanwhile, yes, I think the stress may have caused some elevation. To really help you though, we do need you to start recording Cocoa's blood glucose (BG) readings. To do this you need to set up a chart. @Marje and Gracie can help you with this. I see that @Gill & George are on now, so I'm calling on her now. @tiffmaxee is extremely knowledgeable as well.

You and Cocoa will do very well here. We're good caring people with lots of experience, and we will help you. Right now it would help us help you, if you can tell us all the blood glucose (BG) readings Cocoa has had so far.
Here is are 2 links to documents specifically meant for newcomers:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/updated-tips-for-new-members.173572/#post-2116145
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...the-basics-new-to-the-group-start-here.18139/

You're not alone in this.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
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I read this just before going to bed, so I can't respond any more tonight. I hope @Gill & George will be able to. For the long 9 hour period tomorrow, I think you should leave down food for Cocoa, so that her BG (blood glucose) doesn't go down too far.
 
Hi there and welcome,
I'm sorry about the diagnosis, I still remember how distraught I was when I found out George was diabetic. It took a while to see some better numbers, I followed Tight Regulations (TR) with the help of the folk here on the board, we eventually got George regulated and he went into remission, we had a reasonably smooth ride, others find it harder to regulate their cat. I'm glad you found your way to the board, there's a wealth of experience here just at your fingertips.

In principal what Kathy suggested is good advice, leave food out for him to nibble on while you are out.

Without a little more info it's impossible to give you more Cocoa specific advice. Try not to panic about a seeing a high number, even if it were a bit inflated because you had to poke him a couple of times, I wouldn't worry about that. If I am honest with home testing we don't really see stress induced numbers in the same way you would at a vet's surgery. The testing will get easier, hang in there.

Some important advice (vets don't always tell you)

Always get a BG test just before you shoot, and to ensure that test is not influenced by food, take up all food 2 hours before shot time.
Try to be consistent with shot times, you need to try and shoot 12 hours apart, this works best with Lantus.
Because Lantus dosing is based on how low the dose is taking Cocoa, it's also important to get at least one other test in in every cycle. It doesn't matter where that is anywhere between +1 and +11, whatever is going to fit in with your schedule.
If you are usually away for 9 hours, you might want to arrange your shot times so you are able to get a couple of tests before you leave in the morning, but after you have shot.

It would be really helpful to us, and to you, if you could start using the spread sheet. Most of us track our dosing and BG using these and are very used to seeing data and patterns in this format, allowing us to quickly and easily assess and help you help Cocoa.
Here is a link to the instructions on how to set it up
Spreadsheet Instructions, do shout if you have difficulty with it, we can help you with it if need be.

To help you more effectively, when you get time can you tell us a little more about Cocoa?
What are you feeding him? and when? have you changed foods since diagnosis?
What type of meter are you using? (most of us use human meters, the strips are much more economical and you can save your money for other expenses)
Does he have any other health issues?
How did you find out about the diabetes?
 
Hi and welcome to you and Cocoa, you've no doubt been thru a bit of a roller coaster ride coming to terms with FD but this place will be a wealth of knowledge and support. Like @Kathy and TiTi suggested it's going really help you get the best advice by getting yourself set up with a spreadsheet and add it to your signature. That way those in the know can gain perspective of Cocoa's journey to date and if the 488 is 'unusual'. Just bear in mind our fur babies can flip around quite a bit at the start whilst they're trying to find their level. Not easy for momma to cope with but possibly not something to be alarmed at. Has your vet spoken to you about testing for ketones in her pee? Possibly a good thing to do whilst the numbers are kicking high. Hopefully there will be others on soon to help out with their wisdom.
 
Hi Cocoa and Dad. Welcome to Lantus & Levemir Land, the nicest place you never wanted to be.

You've been given some great tips so far. I'll just add a couple more:

It is WONDERFUL that you are home testing. That is the best way to keep Cocoa safe and help to figure out what is going on with his FD. Here is a post that will give you some tips to help make testing easier for you both. My favorite two suggestions are:

1) Always give a diabetic-friendly treat when you test, even if you don't get any blood. You want Cocoa to associate testing with something good. Diabetic-friendly treats include bite-sized pieces of plain cooked chicken or freeze-dried meats. Most pet stores carry these - the ones labeled for dogs are actually cheaper and work just as well, as long as they contain nothing but the chicken,turkey, salmon,etc.

2) Always warm the ear first. Many of us use a sock with some uncooked rice in it. Warm it in the microwave - test it on your wrist like you would a baby's bottle to make sure it's not too hot. You hold it against the ear for several seconds to warm it and get the blood flowing. I would then put it behind the ear to help hold it firm with poking.

Read all the stickies at the top of the Lantus & Levemir page. Knowledge is power. There is a LOT to absorb, and it's overwhelming at first, but don't worry. We've all been there and understand. Ask lots of questions. We love to help.

Kathy already gave you a link to my favorite post for new members: - it's kind of like an FAQ. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/updated-tips-for-new-members.173572/

Cocoa12 said:
Also I just took his BP and it was 488
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It's actually BG - Blood Glucose. If you say BP people will think you took his blood pressure. ;)
 
Kathy and TiTi said:
Welcome to FDMB. :)There's tons of people here who know scads more than I, and I am going to call them out here. But meanwhile, yes, I think the stress may have caused some elevation. To really help you though, we do need you to start recording Cocoa's blood glucose (BG) readings. To do this you need to set up a chart. @Marje and Gracie can help you with this. I see that @Gill & George are on now, so I'm calling on her now. @tiffmaxee is extremely knowledgeable as well.

You and Cocoa will do very well here. We're good caring people with lots of experience, and we will help you. Right now it would help us help you, if you can tell us all the blood glucose (BG) readings Cocoa has had so far.
Here is are 2 links to documents specifically meant for newcomers:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/updated-tips-for-new-members.173572/#post-2116145
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...the-basics-new-to-the-group-start-here.18139/

You're not alone in this.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
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Thank you for all the info I will check out each link you provided. It is good to know I am not alone :)

Jeremiah
 
Kathy and TiTi said:
I read this just before going to bed, so I can't respond any more tonight. I hope @Gill & George will be able to. For the long 9 hour period tomorrow, I think you should leave down food for Cocoa, so that her BG (blood glucose) doesn't go down too far.
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That is an awesome spreadsheet. I am an engineer so I love excel LOL! I will start using this and post it. I left food out for Cocoa today so he should be fine.
 
Gill & George said:
Hi there and welcome,
I'm sorry about the diagnosis, I still remember how distraught I was when I found out George was diabetic. It took a while to see some better numbers, I followed Tight Regulations (TR) with the help of the folk here on the board, we eventually got George regulated and he went into remission, we had a reasonably smooth ride, others find it harder to regulate their cat. I'm glad you found your way to the board, there's a wealth of experience here just at your fingertips.

In principal what Kathy suggested is good advice, leave food out for him to nibble on while you are out.

Without a little more info it's impossible to give you more Cocoa specific advice. Try not to panic about a seeing a high number, even if it were a bit inflated because you had to poke him a couple of times, I wouldn't worry about that. If I am honest with home testing we don't really see stress induced numbers in the same way you would at a vet's surgery. The testing will get easier, hang in there.

Some important advice (vets don't always tell you)

Always get a BG test just before you shoot, and to ensure that test is not influenced by food, take up all food 2 hours before shot time.
Try to be consistent with shot times, you need to try and shoot 12 hours apart, this works best with Lantus.
Because Lantus dosing is based on how low the dose is taking Cocoa, it's also important to get at least one other test in in every cycle. It doesn't matter where that is anywhere between +1 and +11, whatever is going to fit in with your schedule.
If you are usually away for 9 hours, you might want to arrange your shot times so you are able to get a couple of tests before you leave in the morning, but after you have shot.

It would be really helpful to us, and to you, if you could start using the spread sheet. Most of us track our dosing and BG using these and are very used to seeing data and patterns in this format, allowing us to quickly and easily assess and help you help Cocoa.
Here is a link to the instructions on how to set it up
Spreadsheet Instructions, do shout if you have difficulty with it, we can help you with it if need be.

To help you more effectively, when you get time can you tell us a little more about Cocoa?
What are you feeding him? and when? have you changed foods since diagnosis?
What type of meter are you using? (most of us use human meters, the strips are much more economical and you can save your money for other expenses)
Does he have any other health issues?
How did you find out about the diabetes?
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Hi there Gill and George. Thank you for the reply I guess having my name would help lol it is Jeremiah. Great advice I am going to start testing him before the shoot and after the shoot and track it with the nifty excel doc.

Right now Cocoa is eating the DM from Science Diet as well as canned Fancy Feast flacked or classic. He eats in the morning and in the evening and today he is free eating while I am at work mostly dry food. He typically doesn't touch the wet after it has been left out for more than a half hour. The vet already had him on the DM the only thing I changed was I moved away from the gravy lovers Fancy Feast over to the flacked and classis..
I am using the one touch Ultra Mini.
He has allergies and eat at his skin. This seems to have calmed down some what after the insulin started.
A few months ago I brought him into the vet and they checked it I can not recall why. The vet had me change his food in hopes of stopping it from become full diabetes. Last Wednesday he threw up and pee'd in my shoes. This is very abnormal for him so I took him to the vet. His blood sugar was very high and he tested positive for pancreatitis.
 
Fiona & Ruby said:
Hi and welcome to you and Cocoa, you've no doubt been thru a bit of a roller coaster ride coming to terms with FD but this place will be a wealth of knowledge and support. Like @Kathy and TiTi suggested it's going really help you get the best advice by getting yourself set up with a spreadsheet and add it to your signature. That way those in the know can gain perspective of Cocoa's journey to date and if the 488 is 'unusual'. Just bear in mind our fur babies can flip around quite a bit at the start whilst they're trying to find their level. Not easy for momma to cope with but possibly not something to be alarmed at. Has your vet spoken to you about testing for ketones in her pee? Possibly a good thing to do whilst the numbers are kicking high. Hopefully there will be others on soon to help out with their wisdom.
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Hi Fiona and Ruby. Thank you for the info. The vet actually told me to wait 7-10 days before I start testing on order to let his body regulate to the insulin. I did not agree with that based on everything I have been reading. So I decided to start testing after giving him the insulin. I am now going to start testing before and after. The 488 reading was after I poked him a few times and spent around 15 min trying to get him to give me a drop of blood. So I would imagine the flight or fight response kicked in pumping glucose stores into his blood in preparation. That's just my guess.
 
Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey said:
Hi Cocoa and Dad. Welcome to Lantus & Levemir Land, the nicest place you never wanted to be.

You've been given some great tips so far. I'll just add a couple more:

It is WONDERFUL that you are home testing. That is the best way to keep Cocoa safe and help to figure out what is going on with his FD. Here is a post that will give you some tips to help make testing easier for you both. My favorite two suggestions are:

1) Always give a diabetic-friendly treat when you test, even if you don't get any blood. You want Cocoa to associate testing with something good. Diabetic-friendly treats include bite-sized pieces of plain cooked chicken or freeze-dried meats. Most pet stores carry these - the ones labeled for dogs are actually cheaper and work just as well, as long as they contain nothing but the chicken,turkey, salmon,etc.

2) Always warm the ear first. Many of us use a sock with some uncooked rice in it. Warm it in the microwave - test it on your wrist like you would a baby's bottle to make sure it's not too hot. You hold it against the ear for several seconds to warm it and get the blood flowing. I would then put it behind the ear to help hold it firm with poking.

Read all the stickies at the top of the Lantus & Levemir page. Knowledge is power. There is a LOT to absorb, and it's overwhelming at first, but don't worry. We've all been there and understand. Ask lots of questions. We love to help.

Kathy already gave you a link to my favorite post for new members: - it's kind of like an FAQ. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/updated-tips-for-new-members.173572/


It's actually BG - Blood Glucose. If you say BP people will think you took his blood pressure. ;)
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Thank you for the links I will check them out.

Yeah after I put BP I was like "hmm they are going to think I mean blood pressure".
 
Welcome Jeremiah and Cocoa! I'll leave the advice to the most experienced, but know it gets easier as time goes by. This is the best place you never wanted to be. :cat:
 
Hi and welcome. I’m in Los Angeles as well. You have been given a lot of info and I don’t want to add too much more until you digest it all. The fancy feast classics are lowest in carbs which is what you want. You can look at the food chart here for low carb foods. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dr-pierson-new-food-chart.174147/

You will want some hc food on hand should Cocoa’s BG get too low and also Karo syrup. Ask lots of questions and we will answer.
 
Jeremiah, I'm so happy you've decided to do the pre shots and interim testing. It's the best way to keep Cocoa safe and you'll have greater peace of mind! Welcome again (met on fb)! :bighug::bighug: I hope you have a great day back at work. Looking forward to seeing Cocoa's ss when you get it done. :) if I missed it, apologies, but what dry food are you feeding? This group has lots of good alternatives (better fur diabetic kitties especially and kitties in general not to eat dry); and there are dries that are better than others. :)
 
Cocoa12 said:
track it with the nifty excel doc.
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Just FYI, our spreadsheet isn't in Excel. It's in Google Docs.

Cocoa12 said:
He typically doesn't touch the wet after it has been left out for more than a half hour.
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One way to help with this is to get a timed feeder that has a place under it for an ice pack. A lot of us here use the Petsafe 5 Meal Feeder, available online and at some Petsmarts and/or Petcos. Besides using the icepacks underneath, some people put ice cubes on the later meals, or even freeze the food itself, so when it thaws it will be moist.

Cocoa12 said:
Right now Cocoa is eating the DM from Science Diet
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If you are referring to the canned m/d, it is 13% carbs, which is considered Medium Carb - too high for a diabetic for daily use. If you are referring to the dry version, I don't know the actual carb percentage for this, but on the website they list the dry matter carbs at 18% - I'm guessing it's still too high for a diabetic. As Dr. Lisa explains on her site, dry food isn't good for any cat, but especially not for a diabetic, so getting him off that would certainly help.

So why would a vet recommend it? Good question. I can only guess. My suspicion is that they have been taught to trust the "prescription" foods in vet school. Let's face it, unlike a human doctor, a vet has to learn about many different conditions and illnesses in multiple species. Unless they specialize, they are unlikely to know more than the basics about any one of them. We have found that, unless a vet has treated a lot of diabetics, they generally only have rudimentary knowledge of FD, and it is often out of date. My cats were treated at the University of California at Davis Veterinary Teaching Hospital, the #1 rated vet school in the country. A 3rd year student there told me that they get exactly 5 hours of training on diabetes, and that covers BOTH cats and dogs. So it really isn't surprising most vets don't know more. So I don't mean to criticize your vet, just sharing what we have found.
 
You've gotten lots of good info, so I'm mainly going to say "welcome!" The other tidbit: If you find the strips for the One Touch Ultra getting to pricey, there are other very good meters out there with cheaper strips. I started out with the One Touch as well, but replenishing strips was quickly depleting our bank account! Many folks here use Relions from WalMart; I used a similar meter and strips that I ordered through American Diabetes Wholesale (ADW.

Great job, Jeremiah - you are in great hands here!
 
tiffmaxee said:
Hi and welcome. I’m in Los Angeles as well. You have been given a lot of info and I don’t want to add too much more until you digest it all. The fancy feast classics are lowest in carbs which is what you want. You can look at the food chart here for low carb foods. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dr-pierson-new-food-chart.174147/

You will want some hc food on hand should Cocoa’s BG get too low and also Karo syrup. Ask lots of questions and we will answer.
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Thank you very much for the link. I just picked up Karo syrup yesterday!
 
Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey said:
Just FYI, our spreadsheet isn't in Excel. It's in Google Docs.


One way to help with this is to get a timed feeder that has a place under it for an ice pack. A lot of us here use the Petsafe 5 Meal Feeder, available online and at some Petsmarts and/or Petcos. Besides using the icepacks underneath, some people put ice cubes on the later meals, or even freeze the food itself, so when it thaws it will be moist.


If you are referring to the canned m/d, it is 13% carbs, which is considered Medium Carb - too high for a diabetic for daily use. If you are referring to the dry version, I don't know the actual carb percentage for this, but on the website they list the dry matter carbs at 18% - I'm guessing it's still too high for a diabetic. As Dr. Lisa explains on her site, dry food isn't good for any cat, but especially not for a diabetic, so getting him off that would certainly help.

So why would a vet recommend it? Good question. I can only guess. My suspicion is that they have been taught to trust the "prescription" foods in vet school. Let's face it, unlike a human doctor, a vet has to learn about many different conditions and illnesses in multiple species. Unless they specialize, they are unlikely to know more than the basics about any one of them. We have found that, unless a vet has treated a lot of diabetics, they generally only have rudimentary knowledge of FD, and it is often out of date. My cats were treated at the University of California at Davis Veterinary Teaching Hospital, the #1 rated vet school in the country. A 3rd year student there told me that they get exactly 5 hours of training on diabetes, and that covers BOTH cats and dogs. So it really isn't surprising most vets don't know more. So I don't mean to criticize your vet, just sharing what we have found.
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Yes it is the dry food. I have no clue why the vet recommended it one can only guess. I am trying to get him off the dry food slowly I just don't want to stop it all of the sudden and have an unhappy kitty.

Oh I totally agree I can't imagine they get much training in it. I was actually thinking about finding a specialist and taking him to them.
 
Amy&TrixieCat said:
You've gotten lots of good info, so I'm mainly going to say "welcome!" The other tidbit: If you find the strips for the One Touch Ultra getting to pricey, there are other very good meters out there with cheaper strips. I started out with the One Touch as well, but replenishing strips was quickly depleting our bank account! Many folks here use Relions from WalMart; I used a similar meter and strips that I ordered through American Diabetes Wholesale (ADW.

Great job, Jeremiah - you are in great hands here!
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Thank you I am happy I found this place! OMG yes the one touch ultra stips at CVS $174 for 100. Are they plated in gold I was shocked when I bought them!!
 
Cocoa12 said:
Hi All,

My cat Cocoa was just diagnosed as diabetic on Wednesday 1/18/18. He has been on Glargine since that day 1 unit twice a day. I was able to take some time off from work to help him get some what stable and in a routine. Tomorrow is my first day back he will be alone for 9 hours. Is there anything special I should do?

Also I just took his BP and it was 488 I had to poke him a few time to get blood so I am wondering if that is a bad reading since the flight or fight had kicked in. He was not having it and rather mad.

Any advice for me or words of encouragement?
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Welcome to you both from Terri and Sally!
 
Ok so a question for everyone. I left dry food out and wet out all day for Cocoa I just took his pre-shot level and it was 511. I do not thinking leaving food out for the little guy during the day is a good idea. What are your thoughts?
 
Cocoa12 said:
Ok so a question for everyone. I left dry food out and wet out all day for Cocoa I just took his pre-shot level and it was 511. I do not thinking leaving food out for the little guy during the day is a good idea. What are your thoughts?
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If you get a timed feeder and Cocoa will use it, you can leave smaller portions. But diabetic kitties need access to food if you can't do spot checks/ feedings during the work day. It will probably be key to switch over to lower carb wet and lower carb dry if you're unable to cut the dry out completely.
 
Myagi and Heidi said:
If you get a timed feeder and Cocoa will use it, you can leave smaller portions. But diabetic kitties need access to food if you can't do spot checks/ feedings during the work day. It will probably be key to switch over to lower carb wet and lower carb dry if you're unable to cut the dry out completely.
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I am going to leave out some wet food and boiled chicken for him to snack on tomorrow. I think the DM dry is just too high in carbs.
 
Cocoa12 said:
I sure will! I have been posting in his spreadsheet :)
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Jeremiah, love the note in the cell for scared - very helpful! Your sheet is missing the 20th and 22nd. I know your vet had you only taking mid readings, but it be easier to following if you put all am doses given and all tests taken. If you have data in your meter from when Cocoa started insulin, go ahead and fill that all in. The more history and data the better!;)
And since you're doing such a great job getting in swing of things, you could set up your signature as well. It will save you having to answer same basic questions repeatedly. Cocoa's name, age, gender, date of dx, other health issues, which foods, which insulin and dose, anything else you think pertinent or just want to share. Look at the signatures of the folks in this thread and tailor yours how you like.
Looks like food starting to wear off! :)
 
Cocoa12 said:
Ok so a question for everyone. I left dry food out and wet out all day for Cocoa I just took his pre-shot level and it was 511. I do not thinking leaving food out for the little guy during the day is a good idea. What are your thoughts?
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WEll, it could be a bounce. You can't know how low Cocoa went during the day. If he went lower than was comfortable, he may have begun to bounce, and the 511 reading could be the top of the bounce.
 
Myagi and Heidi said:
Jeremiah, love the note in the cell for scared - very helpful! Your sheet is missing the 20th and 22nd. I know your vet had you only taking mid readings, but it be easier to following if you put all am doses given and all tests taken. If you have data in your meter from when Cocoa started insulin, go ahead and fill that all in. The more history and data the better!;)
And since you're doing such a great job getting in swing of things, you could set up your signature as well. It will save you having to answer same basic questions repeatedly. Cocoa's name, age, gender, date of dx, other health issues, which foods, which insulin and dose, anything else you think pertinent or just want to share. Look at the signatures of the folks in this thread and tailor yours how you like.
Looks like food starting to wear off! :)
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Thanks lol. I am missing data for those dates because I wasn't fully monitoring him like I now.

I will update my signature with that data.
 
Kathy and TiTi said:
WEll, it could be a bounce. You can't know how low Cocoa went during the day. If he went lower than was comfortable, he may have begun to bounce, and the 511 reading could be the top of the bounce.
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Awe yes I read about the bounce. His level has dropped since getting the insulin he is down to 401. I still think living the dry food out might have been part of the cause. Tomorrow I plan on leaving some wet food and boiled chicken out for him.
 
Check eBay for test stripsas well. I used a Relion Micro most of the time but also bought One Touch there pretty cheap.
 
Cocoa12 said:
Thanks lol. I am missing data for those dates because I wasn't fully monitoring him like I now.

I will update my signature with that data.
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Lol. No worries. Anything is better than nothing. ;) see what you can pull from your meter and fill those in and the doses of insulin.
And no kibble tomorrow is good! Lol:smuggrin:
 
Myagi and Heidi said:
Lol. No worries. Anything is better than nothing. ;) see what you can pull from your meter and fill those in and the doses of insulin.
And no kibble tomorrow is good! Lol:smuggrin:
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Well he was down to 355 now he is back up to 381. His high was 446 (spreadsheet has been updated). From what I have seen here in the boards they tend to bounce around at first when trying to get the dose correct etc. I am trying not to worry myself.
 
Cocoa12 said:
Well he was down to 355 now he is back up to 381. His high was 446 (spreadsheet has been updated). From what I have seen here in the boards they tend to bounce around at first when trying to get the dose correct etc. I am trying not to worry myself.
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Definitely don't worry yourself. You have literally just started this sugar dance with Cocoa! Early days! Breathe and take it one day at time. This awesome place is here fur you and you're already doing great! Wet food and home testing is half the battle! And early days (or later ones you'll learn) can have no rhyme nor reason. So just breathe and love up on your kitty :bighug::bighug:
 
Myagi and Heidi said:
Definitely don't worry yourself. You have literally just started this sugar dance with Cocoa! Early days! Breathe and take it one day at time. This awesome place is here fur you and you're already doing great! Wet food and home testing is half the battle! And early days (or later ones you'll learn) can have no rhyme nor reason. So just breathe and love up on your kitty :bighug::bighug:
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I really appreciate the encouraging words :). I do have to say every one here is amazing!!!
 
Cocoa12 said:
I am going to leave out some wet food and boiled chicken for him to snack on tomorrow. I think the DM dry is just too high in carbs.
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A word of warning: If Cocoa is used to snacking on the dry all day, his numbers may drop fairly quickly if it is completely removed all at once. Tapering it might be a better idea if you're gone all day, then remove it totally on a day you are home to monitor (better still if it's two days, like a weekend, as dry takes longer to get out of the system).
 
Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey said:
A word of warning: If Cocoa is used to snacking on the dry all day, his numbers may drop fairly quickly if it is completely removed all at once. Tapering it might be a better idea if you're gone all day, then remove it totally on a day you are home to monitor (better still if it's two days, like a weekend, as dry takes longer to get out of the system).
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I am happy I saw this before I left for work! Now that I think of it I totallly agree with you. I will leave some wet and dry out and tapper him off this weekend when I can monitor him. Thank you so much for the advice.
 
Just wanted to say hello and welcome! Looks like you’re off to a good start, excited to see how numbers look after the food transition. :cat:
 
Stacy & Asia said:
Just wanted to say hello and welcome! Looks like you’re off to a good start, excited to see how numbers look after the food transition. :cat:
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Hi I am Jeremiah nice to meet you. Yes I am hoping for a goo result as he gets away from dry food. I spoke with the vet and shared the numbers with her so far. She wants to continue with the dose he is at and see how he does. She thinks we might need to increase the dose at some point.
 
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