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Hi FDMB, thank you for all your support so far. I'm Christin, one of two humans for Archie, 11 years (and Loretta, 3 years) - both adopted tabby cats. Archie is medium-haired orange cat that until recently had two giant fangs (after some dental work in October 2017 only one left - he looks like a vampire version of Garfield - but slim).
We adopted Archie in 2014 from the Humane Society, after he had been there for almost 2 years and was adopted and then returned for the reason that 'he didn't do much'. So terrible. The shelter started treating him with anti-depressants afterwards - omg! The first night we brought him home we put him to sleep next to us and he did not move. Till this day his protection mechanism is to just flop and freeze. Once we left the house the next day he hid under couch and was not seen eat / drink / poop for almost two weeks - unless we would force him out. With lots of love and patience, he's become the sweetest lap cat and even started playing (very gently) with the kitten Loretta that we adopted a couple of moths after bringing him home. They are best friends. He's never had any urgent issues despite already having not great teeth (that we monitored) and a couple of hernias that the doctor said wouldn't be worth to do surgery on. In addition, he was always weak on his hind legs - we had some x-rays done last year - but nothing.
Our first visit to the vet was on 12/27 because he had started drinking / urinating a lot for the past 2.5 weeks, but we're working / traveling a lot - so we didn't notice really until the holidays. He also seemed to get weaker on his hind legs so that I bought him a little step to climb the bed (I thought he was just getting old and since he had never been a cat known for running around, it didn't seem odd). Our vet tested the urine and blood and called us the next morning on 12/28 and said ketones were found in the urine and he needed to go to the hospital immediately to check for ketones in blood and might need fast-acting insulin. Luckily they didn't find any. So the hospital sent us home on 12/28 saying we should give 1Unit of Lantus every 12 hours and check back in 14 days. That's it.
Our normal vet (Dr.C) called afterwards on 12/28 and we explained the situation. She recommended Dr. Pierson's site (catinfo.org to check for food options - our cats' previous diet was Purina One kibble (they seemed to really help with Archie's occasional hair ball) free feed, and in the evenings a can of Beyond Grain-free Salmon Pate. More recently we had begun to feed Stella&Chewy freeze-dried chicken and mix it with the Salmon Pate. Upon discovering that the pate was only moderate in protein, higher in fat and still with 20% carbs, I started looking for low carb alternative and found TikiCat Chicken. We mostly fed our cats fish varieties (my husband is pescetarian) - however, upon opening one can of the TikiCat chicken both cats freaked out and gobbled it all up within seconds. So we decided to go with this, since they usually only eat a couple of bites of wet food once it is out and we wanted to make sure Archie eats enough food before the insulin.
By the time Dr.C called on 12/28, I had already ordered an Alphatrak2 and she recommended we start home monitoring. It arrived on 12/30 and we were overjoyed to see blue numbers in the spreadsheet the first couple of tests. However, they dropped to 116 AMPS +9 and we got a bit nervous. We called the hospital that prescribed 1Unit (they're open 24/7) and asked if we should still give him the 1Unit. All they said is that the doctor who prescribed wasn't there and that the discharge did not say that we should be home testing. Therefore all they could say is to continue as prescribed.
Ever since, his numbers are off the charts - so frustrating! After some reading in this forum and advice from you, we suspect that Archie is bouncing because his body is not used to lower levels. However, I'm still not clear how the bounce clears - how is his body getting used to lower levels if he spends so much time in extremely high values? I fear that the next time he drops low, he's just going to spend another 3 days >400 levels until it starts all over again. Also - is the depot not building up over time and making it less likely for his body to not freak out? Very confusing. *sigh* Maybe someone can explain that to me?
Another issue - we've been testing vigorously over the weekend to get a curve. But Archie is a pretty gentle soul and I think it's starting to weigh on him that he's being poked every time he comes out from his little spot behind the couch. Treats are fine, but I feel like I'm losing his trust if we keep testing at this rate. I've been testing on the ears, but find the paws easier to get enough blood. Does it hurt him more on the paw? He definitely jolts more on the paw.
So many questions! Sorry for the long intro - this diagnosis has thrown us off a bunch. Obviously we're so glad that he is not ketoacidotic and will likely survive in the short-term (compared to what we feared on 12/27), but the fact that his numbers are so high makes me feel so helpless.
The whole home testing is fine, but the fact that he starts to not come when I call him is terrible. We're already cancelling a bunch of our plans in the short term, but we're avid travelers (both work and pleasure) and have a pretty busy schedule otherwise too.
I've read that the chances for remission are higher the less time passes since diagnosis, so we're trying to be rigorous right away - but really it breaks my heart to bother him so much. My husband thinks that his levels might be just high from us testing Archie so much that he's stressed out about it and his blood sugar is shooting up. Is that a possibility? At the hospital his blood sugar was only 374. Argh.
Ok, I think I've covered most of what's been going around in my head.
We adopted Archie in 2014 from the Humane Society, after he had been there for almost 2 years and was adopted and then returned for the reason that 'he didn't do much'. So terrible. The shelter started treating him with anti-depressants afterwards - omg! The first night we brought him home we put him to sleep next to us and he did not move. Till this day his protection mechanism is to just flop and freeze. Once we left the house the next day he hid under couch and was not seen eat / drink / poop for almost two weeks - unless we would force him out. With lots of love and patience, he's become the sweetest lap cat and even started playing (very gently) with the kitten Loretta that we adopted a couple of moths after bringing him home. They are best friends. He's never had any urgent issues despite already having not great teeth (that we monitored) and a couple of hernias that the doctor said wouldn't be worth to do surgery on. In addition, he was always weak on his hind legs - we had some x-rays done last year - but nothing.
Our first visit to the vet was on 12/27 because he had started drinking / urinating a lot for the past 2.5 weeks, but we're working / traveling a lot - so we didn't notice really until the holidays. He also seemed to get weaker on his hind legs so that I bought him a little step to climb the bed (I thought he was just getting old and since he had never been a cat known for running around, it didn't seem odd). Our vet tested the urine and blood and called us the next morning on 12/28 and said ketones were found in the urine and he needed to go to the hospital immediately to check for ketones in blood and might need fast-acting insulin. Luckily they didn't find any. So the hospital sent us home on 12/28 saying we should give 1Unit of Lantus every 12 hours and check back in 14 days. That's it.
Our normal vet (Dr.C) called afterwards on 12/28 and we explained the situation. She recommended Dr. Pierson's site (catinfo.org to check for food options - our cats' previous diet was Purina One kibble (they seemed to really help with Archie's occasional hair ball) free feed, and in the evenings a can of Beyond Grain-free Salmon Pate. More recently we had begun to feed Stella&Chewy freeze-dried chicken and mix it with the Salmon Pate. Upon discovering that the pate was only moderate in protein, higher in fat and still with 20% carbs, I started looking for low carb alternative and found TikiCat Chicken. We mostly fed our cats fish varieties (my husband is pescetarian) - however, upon opening one can of the TikiCat chicken both cats freaked out and gobbled it all up within seconds. So we decided to go with this, since they usually only eat a couple of bites of wet food once it is out and we wanted to make sure Archie eats enough food before the insulin.
By the time Dr.C called on 12/28, I had already ordered an Alphatrak2 and she recommended we start home monitoring. It arrived on 12/30 and we were overjoyed to see blue numbers in the spreadsheet the first couple of tests. However, they dropped to 116 AMPS +9 and we got a bit nervous. We called the hospital that prescribed 1Unit (they're open 24/7) and asked if we should still give him the 1Unit. All they said is that the doctor who prescribed wasn't there and that the discharge did not say that we should be home testing. Therefore all they could say is to continue as prescribed.
Ever since, his numbers are off the charts - so frustrating! After some reading in this forum and advice from you, we suspect that Archie is bouncing because his body is not used to lower levels. However, I'm still not clear how the bounce clears - how is his body getting used to lower levels if he spends so much time in extremely high values? I fear that the next time he drops low, he's just going to spend another 3 days >400 levels until it starts all over again. Also - is the depot not building up over time and making it less likely for his body to not freak out? Very confusing. *sigh* Maybe someone can explain that to me?
Another issue - we've been testing vigorously over the weekend to get a curve. But Archie is a pretty gentle soul and I think it's starting to weigh on him that he's being poked every time he comes out from his little spot behind the couch. Treats are fine, but I feel like I'm losing his trust if we keep testing at this rate. I've been testing on the ears, but find the paws easier to get enough blood. Does it hurt him more on the paw? He definitely jolts more on the paw.
So many questions! Sorry for the long intro - this diagnosis has thrown us off a bunch. Obviously we're so glad that he is not ketoacidotic and will likely survive in the short-term (compared to what we feared on 12/27), but the fact that his numbers are so high makes me feel so helpless.
The whole home testing is fine, but the fact that he starts to not come when I call him is terrible. We're already cancelling a bunch of our plans in the short term, but we're avid travelers (both work and pleasure) and have a pretty busy schedule otherwise too.
I've read that the chances for remission are higher the less time passes since diagnosis, so we're trying to be rigorous right away - but really it breaks my heart to bother him so much. My husband thinks that his levels might be just high from us testing Archie so much that he's stressed out about it and his blood sugar is shooting up. Is that a possibility? At the hospital his blood sugar was only 374. Argh.
Ok, I think I've covered most of what's been going around in my head.
