17/10 Meme pmps 63, still not eating

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rawia

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This is suck and i feel miserable, barely had some sleep yesterday.

She is acting will, just like her old days without insulin but since she used to eat after her diagnoses, not eating now is odd to me.

She ate some pieces of dry food and less than little boiled fish.

When i called the vet this morning she said that she only had an ubset stomach and i have to give her sometimes, her stool still soft this morning but no more vomiting.

I really do not know what to do and i do not want to stop insulin right now, i want a strong remission.

What should i do, vet told me if i am still worried by tomorrow then she will find me an appointment as her scheduke is very busy.

Should i go any way. I want to feel relief that nothing is going wrong :(
 
I am no expert at all in this but in looking at her spreadsheet, her numbers do not look bad in the last two weeks or so. Is it possible that she is in remission? Plus her insulin dose looks pretty low so is there a reason why you think she may not be in remission? How long has it been that she isn't eating well? Cats are so resilient, maybe she's just having a few off days where she isn't feeling well and will start feeling better. Wishing lots of luck your way and that she starts feeling better.
 
And what upset me more is when i called the clinic asking for my vet the lady that answered told me that she is very busy at surgery and following with busy days and she will not transfer the call to her, i told her it is an emergency and she insist that i can not have her today even if i came!!!! She is my cat doctor why i can not talk to her.

After alot of argument she tranfered the call, my vet is very kind and helpful but that lady made my day worse
 
Take a few deep breaths. How is she acting overall? Is she lethargic? Is she drinking water? Is she using the bathroom? Have you tried enticing her with some tuna fish?
 
I am no expert at all in this but in looking at her spreadsheet, her numbers do not look bad in the last two weeks or so. Is it possible that she is in remission? Plus her insulin dose looks pretty low so is there a reason why you think she may not be in remission? How long has it been that she isn't eating well? Cats are so resilient, maybe she's just having a few off days where she isn't feeling well and will start feeling better. Wishing lots of luck your way and that she starts feeling better.
Yes she might be in remisdion but everyone suggested that i have to continue as long as her body acting will with the dose just to have a strong remission.

At least i want her to eat one meel so i will have some relief
 
Take a few deep breaths. How is she acting overall? Is she lethargic? Is she drinking water? Is she using the bathroom? Have you tried enticing her with some tuna fish?
She is acting very will, play with me this morning, she is going to bathroon but still had soft stool, not drinking water since i switched her to canned food, i am afraid of dehydration but so far she is doing will but not intreasted of food. I tried every fish and tuna cane she liked.

If this is continue i should go to the clinic tomorrow morning.
 
I'm glad Meme is eating a little bit – but I wouldn't let it go much longer. She would be at risk is hepatic lipidosis which is serious.
Try to find Purina Fortiflora in Bahrain. If not at a pet store, a vet clinic may have some. It is a probiotic and is sprinkled on top of food. For some cats, it is like kitty crack.
Grated parmesan on top of food works for some cats.
Raising the food bowl 4-6 inches.
Warming the food (gives it a stronger smell).
Freeze dried treats in which the only ingredients are meats. (Orijen is one brand.)
A novel meat that she hasn't had before.
Bonito flakes sprinkled on top.
Feeding her in a different place (cats think it is a novelty).

All of the above suggestions are low carb.
 
not drinking water since i switched her to canned food, i am afraid of dehydration.
I don't have much in the way of advice, but I can tell you that cats don't have a high thirst drive, this is especially true if they are eating wet food, so it wouldn't be that odd if she stopped drinking water after you switched to canned. They can get all the water they need from wet food, generally. Obviously, diabetes changes this a little bit, but it's pretty easy to tell if your cat is dehydrated: pull up their scruff (back of neck/shoulder blades area) it should bounce right back if they are well hydrated, it will slowly rebound if they are dehydrated. Also, since you are used to giving her shots, you should notice the skin you pull to do that would be less easy to pull if she were dehydrated (if that makes sense).

I hope you and your vet can figure out what is going on with Meme and she feels better soon!
 
I don't have much in the way of advice, but I can tell you that cats don't have a high thirst drive, this is especially true if they are eating wet food, so it wouldn't be that odd if she stopped drinking water after you switched to canned. They can get all the water they need from wet food, generally. Obviously, diabetes changes this a little bit, but it's pretty easy to tell if your cat is dehydrated: pull up their scruff (back of neck/shoulder blades area) it should bounce right back if they are well hydrated, it will slowly rebound if they are dehydrated. Also, since you are used to giving her shots, you should notice the skin you pull to do that would be less easy to pull if she were dehydrated (if that makes sense).

I hope you and your vet can figure out what is going on with Meme and she feels better soon!
Till now she is not dehydrated but even if it is only a stomach upset i would not feel ok until take her to the clinic and run some blood test.
 
I just tried young again zero carb mature and she did not touch it, just smell it and went a way.
 
Happy to hear she's playful and feeling well.

I had a cat who wasn't eating because of kidney disease and she liked me to hold her bowl up to her. I thought she just wanted it elevated, so I then tried using something as a platform for the bowl, but she didn't like that--she wanted me holding the dish up to her and then she would eat a little.

Another trick I learned from a kidney disease website was to wake them up from a deep sleep and put their dish in front of them. That seemed to work, too, like they just start eating as a reflex. Waking someone from a deep sleep seems kind of mean and I wouldn't want to do it on a regular basis, but maybe that's a way to get a few bites into her so you feel you can give her insulin.
 
I realize it is midnight in Bahrain. Is there a pharmacy or health food store open 24 hours? You might try slippery elm bark. It comes in capsules and in a powder. Make sure that slippery elm bark is the only ingredient.

From here (I'm not implying that Meme has kidney disease - this is just the best source for information about slippery elm bark): http://www.felinecrf.org/holistic_treatments.htm
What Is Slippery Elm Bark? The natural remedy most commonly used for CKD cats is slippery elm bark powder (ulmus rubra or ulmus fulva). Slippery elm bark is a herbal remedy used for most kinds of digestive or intestinal problems - it can be used for nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea or constipation. As a side effect it can also improve coat dryness and dandruff.

Slippery elm bark is a demulcent, which means it soothes the stomach lining and intestinal walls and reduces irritation. This can be particularly useful in combating the nausea and excess stomach acid which many CKD cats experience. You will usually see an improvement within a day or two of starting slippery elm bark. A potential nutritional prophylactic for the reduction of feline hairball symptoms (2004) Dann JR, Adler MA, Duffy KL and Giffard CJ The Journal of Nutrition 134(8) pp2124S-2125S found that it also appears to help with hairballs.
Slippery Elm Bark Formulations
Unfortunately it is difficult to find capsules that don't contain magnesium stearate because it is a glidant used in the manufacturing process (it helps the powder flow when the capsules are being filled). Magnesium stearate is safe for cats but may affect the thickening of the syrup, though some people have been able to make it successfully from such capsules. There is one US supplier below selling capsules containing slippery elm bark only.

gelcaps separately for this purpose.

Some people have found their cat will eat slippery elm bark if it is mixed in a little baby food (make sure the baby food does not contain any onion).

Syrup Recipe
You can also make slippery elm bark into a syrup that is used for digestive problems or for mouth sores or ulcers. It has the same soothing and healing effects in the mouth - try dabbing in your cat's mouth ulcers if required. The syrup is weaker than the straight powder, so you can give a little more of it. Some people have told me they find it hard to place the syrup on their cat's mouth ulcers if they are in hard-to-reach areas of the mouth. In such cases, you may wish to use a syringe to aim the syrup at the ulcers.

If you are using slippery elm bark decanted from capsules, you need pure slippery elm bark with no fillers, otherwise the syrup will usually not thicken properly.
Stovetop Method

  • Take a stainless steel or heat-proof glass pan (not an aluminium or non-stick one). Put one cup of cold water in the pan. Sprinkle 1 to 1.5 tsp of slippery elm bark powder on to the water. Let it sit until the powder is damp (this should not take too long), then bring to the boil stirring constantly. Reduce the heat and simmer, still stirring constantly, until it thickens, about 3 minutes or so. It will be the consistency of watery egg whites. Allow to cool and give ¼ - ½ (0.25 to 0.5) teaspoon up to 4 times a day. This will keep at room temperature for a day or in the fridge for up to five days.

    Microwave Method
For the non-cooks among us, one of my support group members came up with this method but it may not work with powdered slippery elm bark. Take a glass container which holds two cups. Put one cup of water in the cup. Add 1 to 1.5 tsp of slippery elm bark powder. Heat in the microwave on high for about 1.5 minutes. Remove from the microwave and stir, then put it back in for about another 30 seconds. Keep an eye on it because you do not want it to boil over. Remove from the microwave and stir again. Allow to cool and give ¼ - ½ (0.25 to 0.5) teaspoon up to 4 times a day. This will keep at room temperature for a day or in the fridge for up to five days.
 
Other members told me about that, i am not sure if we have it her. I will try to find it in pharmacy or nutrition drug store, otherwise i can order it online but it will take sometimes.
 
I just tried young again zero carb mature and she did not touch it, just smell it and went a way.
That sounds like classic symptom of nausea... Cerenia or any other anti nausea med can help.

Some cats lost their appetite when weather is too hot or when their environment become noisy - a construction work, house guests (kids especially), etc.

Good thing is that Meme's numbers are good for two days of NS and her behavior and acting are all right.

I'd watch her and try to entice eating every hour or so but if she doesn't eat for 48 hours than it's risking hepatic lipidosis and she has to be seen by a vet. I'd say after 24-36 hours of not eating it is an emergency and I'd take her to be seen by any vet available immediately, if possible.

Sending healing vines to Meme, I hope she'll regain her appy soon.
 
That sounds like classic symptom of nausea... Cerenia or any other anti nausea med can help.

Some cats lost their appetite when weather is too hot or when their environment become noisy - a construction work, house guests (kids especially), etc.

Good thing is that Meme's numbers are good for two days of NS and her behavior and acting are all right.

I'd watch her and try to entice eating every hour or so but if she doesn't eat for 48 hours than it's risking hepatic lipidosis and she has to be seen by a vet. I'd say after 24-36 hours of not eating it is an emergency and I'd take her to be seen by any vet available immediately, if possible.

Sending healing vines to Meme, I hope she'll regain her appy soon.
That is what i told my vet, 24 hours was this afternoon and all she ate few pices of dry food and two very small pices of raw chicken, she grap the chicken but fall or can not chew it well, i thought of nausea but she is acting well, i think somethink with her stomach because sometimes she is sleeping in sitting position not laying on her side. I do not want to guess and think i will call them tomorrow and take her weather she was ok or no. I know my cat she would eat even little if she was ok and will never say no for dry food but she did not ate that much.
 
Just called the vet this morning, and will go after 2 hours.

I was not sure of it is nausea but today she wants to eat but can not just smell and walk away.

Her BG bumped up to 119, this is bad with no food right!!!
 
not necessarily. the minimally higher number could be from the lack of food. the liver does a dump - just like a bounce. vines for a constructive vet visit.
 
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