10/10 | Darwin: AMBG=43, +13=53, +16=46, +18=61, +23=63, PMBG=55, +26=48

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Tasha & Darwin

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What are you doing down there, Darwin? He was so much more stable through the night, and then this? :eek:

Thankfully. I'm off for the morning, but I'm not going to stall for too long as he rarely comes up on his own...likely NS this morning...o_O
 
:woot:This with no shot this morning!! I don't know, can you stall for 20 and re-test and see where's he's at? Hopefully more experienced eyes will be on this because it looks to me Darwin wants none of this insulin stuff;)
 
:woot:This with no shot this morning!! I don't know, can you stall for 20 and re-test and see where's he's at? Hopefully more experienced eyes will be on this because it looks to me Darwin wants none of this insulin stuff;)
He always seems to drop further when I stall at night (he was 63 just less than an hour ago :eek:) I think you might be right about that.....:D
 
but wanted someone else to say it too

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SKIP!!!....and take advantage of the night to get some sleep! Looks like he may have plans to keep you up quite a few times in the future!!

Since you didn't shoot this morning and aren't shooting tonight, there shouldn't be any problems with him dropping too low tonight

No insulin = no hypo

I'd grab a quick test before you hit the hay and enjoy counting sheep!!
 
Want another opinion??

SKIP!!!....and take advantage of the night to get some sleep! Looks like he may have plans to keep you up quite a few times in the future!!

Since you didn't shoot this morning and aren't shooting tonight, there shouldn't be any problems with him dropping too low tonight

No insulin = no hypo

I'd grab a quick test before you hit the hay and enjoy counting sheep!!

Haha, thanks Chris! It's hard not to panic at those low numbers, but I know he's fine since he didn't get a insulin. Just mind blowing :D

Looking forward to a full night's sleep! Thank you ALL! :cat:
 
Darwin has been racing down that dosing scale.

With all those low numbers he's been getting it makes me wonder if he's a low rider?? some kitties throw numbers in the 40's when they are OTJ. Time will tell if Darwin is one of those.

I do think that you need to consider shooting some insulin. He earn't a reduction to 0.5u, and has been running low with no insulin, has anything changed recently?? removed dry food perhaps? any meds that he was on have been stopped? How is his General Health?

Just wondering if there may be some reason for the sudden change?
Though with some kitties, they do just flick a switch, for Darwin that seemed to happen on october 2 when you shot your first green.

With him running so low, without insulin (though I think the depot from the 1u and 0.75u is still in play here) you could perhaps drop the dose a little further shooting 0.25u or 0.1u.
In an ideal world we'd like to see him have a week of numbers in the normal range (50-80) before we take a reduction, but obviously Darwin has other plans.
Since it's only 4 days since he was on 1.5u, I do think that to safeguard a strong remission, you should be thinking along the lines of continuing with some insulin support, but the trick is to do this safely. You've take reductions as he has earned them and your data gathering has been very complete, so as long as there is nothing else going on, it doesn't look like you should have got yourself into a situation where Darwin has been taking too much insulin and been overdosed.

The way I see it the following are your options
1) shoot the reduced dose of 0.5u, as per the protocol (you may need to hold on to your hat, and for sure you do want to monitor closely and make sure you have supplies)
2) shoot a further reduced dose (you may still need to hold on to your hat, but it's also possible that this would prove a reduction too much and you may find yourself having to bring him up again)
3) No shot and see how he does(not my favorite option, he's had so many reductions so quickly that I fear you will not achieve a strong remission, and/or you might find yourself having to bring the dose back up higher than the 0.75u)
 
I do think that you need to consider shooting some insulin. He earn't a reduction to 0.5u, and has been running low with no insulin, has anything changed recently?? removed dry food perhaps? any meds that he was on have been stopped? How is his General Health?

Just wondering if there may be some reason for the sudden change?
Though with some kitties, they do just flick a switch, for Darwin that seemed to happen on october 2 when you shot your first green.
I changed to FF canned back in June/July. Otherwise, he's been healthier than he has in ages and is coming down (slowly) to a healthy weight. He is much more active, and happier. Then ONLY change in the last few weeks was my switch from SLGS to TR - hence shooting the lower number. I have only been able to assume that has what has helped jump start Darwin's pancreas?

The way I see it the following are your options
1) shoot the reduced dose of 0.5u, as per the protocol (you may need to hold on to your hat, and for sure you do want to monitor closely and make sure you have supplies)
2) shoot a further reduced dose (you may still need to hold on to your hat, but it's also possible that this would prove a reduction too much and you may find yourself having to bring him up again)
3) No shot and see how he does(not my favorite option, he's had so many reductions so quickly that I fear you will not achieve a strong remission, and/or you might find yourself having to bring the dose back up higher than the 0.75u)

I'm so tied on what to do. I just checked again. and as he ALWAYS seems to do lately, his AMBG is 41. That's LOW to be shooting insulin, right? I mean even a reduced dose of 0.1 makes me a bit nervous. The other thing is, I am leaving for work. My girlfriend, also a vet tech, is home and fully capable of checking Darwin and making sure he's OK, but she's a bit more likely to panic if she gets a low number. We have a busy day at the vet clinic, so I can't be sure I'll be available to check in on here, and get advice if he drops. It just seems like at 41 - he doesn't have anywhere to drop?!

BUT, I don't want to risk taking a step back either. :blackeye::nailbiting: Would it be unwise to NS this morning, and see what he is doing tonight when I am home and can check him through the night? I am also off tomorrow, so it would be better and safer timing for me to continue to monitor should he drop into the 30s.
 
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