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I have my fingers, toes and paws crossed for you! I haven't made it a full month with Pita's remission and he's already showing higher numbers again. I can sympathize a bit on the feeling. Sending good thoughts!! :bighug:
 
:( Really hope you get the news you want Janet, saying prayers and sending hugs!
 
Oh no, Janet, that's awful! I hope it'll turn out to be something easily treatable and that both of you will be feeling better soon!
 
I was just thinking of you and CC, so I wanted to check in. I'm sorry you haven't had any good news yet, but I'm sending some positive energy your way. You said they were sending out a urinalysis. Were they just sending out a urine culture or the whole UA? The UA as a test is super quick and easy and completed within minutes (they use a dipstick like you would use for ketones). I'd be surprised if they didn't perform that in-house. Do they run blood tests there? Regardless I hope you find something out soon! :bighug:
 
Amanda and a Loudogg said:
I was just thinking of you and CC, so I wanted to check in. I'm sorry you haven't had any good news yet, but I'm sending some positive energy your way. You said they were sending out a urinalysis. Were they just sending out a urine culture or the whole UA? The UA as a test is super quick and easy and completed within minutes (they use a dipstick like you would use for ketones). I'd be surprised if they didn't perform that in-house. Do they run blood tests there? Regardless I hope you find something out soon! :bighug:
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Culture too I think. What they tested in house didn't show anything.
 
Okay, that makes sense. It's unlikely there's an infection with a negative UA, but it's not impossible. I'm not sure how far they're sending the culture for processing, but the actual culture will take 24-48 hours, as they grow out any bacteria. Did the vet say anything about CC's teeth?
 
Amanda and a Loudogg said:
Okay, that makes sense. It's unlikely there's an infection with a negative UA, but it's not impossible. I'm not sure how far they're sending the culture for processing, but the actual culture will take 24-48 hours, as they grow out any bacteria. Did the vet say anything about CC's teeth?
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Everything looks fine, they are baffled.

The only thing I mentioned as a possibility other than the teath or UTI is thrusday we caught her biting an iris leaf... they are toxic. I pulled it out of her mouth and it didn't look like she ate any of it. The vet asked if afterwards she had thrown up or anything and I didn't see any throw up ... but who knows, sometimes they throw up under a bed or something. She didn't think that was it though. I have since pulled the iris' OUT as pretty as they are. Not taking any chances.

PRAISE GOD, her number is down a bit now from a high this afternoon of 428 down to 208.... that's a much less scary number. Her body is fighting SOMETHING. I hope the dramatic drop means she hit the peak of whatever this is causing her numbers to soar and she's coming back down. I don't know. Just keep praying. she was less energetic today then yesterday, but just now (3am) when I came down to see her she was one her feet and meowing hello at me.

I've had music for healing cats playing all night.... Closed her window so she can't get stressed from other cats outside... moved a feliway diffuser down by her... I even blessed her with holy water.. I'm not Catholic... just thought it was worth a shot. (had some from my son's baptisim 5 years ago! haha) I'm doing whatever I can do.
 
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JanetNJ said:
Everything looks fine, they are baffled.

The only thing I mentioned as a possibility other than the teath or UTI is thrusday we caught her biting an iris leaf... they are toxic. I pulled it out of her mouth and it didn't look like she ate any of it. The vet asked if afterwards she had thrown up or anything and I didn't see any throw up ... but who knows, sometimes they throw up under a bed or something. She didn't think that was it though. I have since pulled the iris' OUT as pretty as they are. Not taking any chances.

PRAISE GOD, her number is down a bit now from a high this afternoon of 428 down to 208.... that's a much less scary number. Her body is fighting SOMETHING. I hope the dramatic drop means she hit the peak of whatever this is causing her numbers to soar and she's coming back down. I don't know. Just keep praying. she was less energetic today then yesterday, but just now (3am) when I came down to see her she was one her feet and meowing hello at me.

I've had music for healing cats playing all night.... Closed her window so she can't get stressed from other cats outside... I even blessed her with holy water... AND I'M NOT EVEN CATHOLIC... just thought it was worth a shot. (had some from my son's baptisim 5 years ago! haha) I'm doing whatever I can do.
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It has got to be the eclipse then!
 
Question: someone told me their cat's #s got higher for two or three days when allergies strike. I thought that was you. I was bummed when my cats #s went up and I was sure you have me that example and told me to wait it out a day or two.

If that was you, could this be one of thoae moments?

Sending vines
 
JanetNJ said:
ty... I'm quite nervous about it all. I mean it is what it is... but with school starting in two weeks I hate that I won't be able to monitor like I did last year if she has to go back on insulin... plus most people find it's harder to get them back into remission a second time. Just worried. Plus wondering WTH happened to cause her to go off the rails.
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Radar is always stressed when I start going to my classroom after being home all summer to feed and pet and nap with him. In Radar, the stress usually shows up as a reluctance to eat. It's possible that your CC is having a similar reaction to the impending school year. Although I agree those icky 300s are indicators of something else at work. These are for you :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: When Radar had to go back on insulin, it was devastating but we knew he needed insulin again before our vet visit. Hang in there. Second remissions do happen. And sometimes even a third. :woot:
 
apple said:
Question: someone told me their cat's #s got higher for two or three days when allergies strike. I thought that was you. I was bummed when my cats #s went up and I was sure you have me that example and told me to wait it out a day or two.

If that was you, could this be one of thoae moments?

Sending vines
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she does have ever a little bit of allergies I think.... But I don't think it would cause a 300 point increase.
 
Jan Radar said:
Radar is always stressed when I start going to my classroom after being home all summer to feed and pet and nap with him. In Radar, the stress usually shows up as a reluctance to eat. It's possible that your CC is having a similar reaction to the impending school year. Although I agree those icky 300s are indicators of something else at work. These are for you :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: When Radar had to go back on insulin, it was devastating but we knew he needed insulin again before our vet visit. Hang in there. Second remissions do happen. And sometimes even a third. :woot:
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I don't think so my school hasn't started yet... I've only gone to set up twice.
 
Sorry to hear this, Janet, I'm right there with you with Plum. Do you think it could be the YA food? I took Plum off it (per vet's advice) and it does seem to affect his bg....I know that should not be the case, but every time I let him have a little it spikes him up. C'mon, CC & Plum, get on back to the Falls!
 
PlumsMom said:
Sorry to hear this, Janet, I'm right there with you with Plum. Do you think it could be the YA food? I took Plum off it (per vet's advice) and it does seem to affect his bg....I know that should not be the case, but every time I let him have a little it spikes him up. C'mon, CC & Plum, get on back to the Falls!
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Ya food doesn't spike cc. If anything I credit it with helping get her into remission.
 
PlumsMom said:
Sorry to hear this, Janet, I'm right there with you with Plum. Do you think it could be the YA food? I took Plum off it (per vet's advice) and it does seem to affect his bg....I know that should not be the case, but every time I let him have a little it spikes him up. C'mon, CC & Plum, get on back to the Falls!
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Any idea what caused plum to go up again?
 
((((Janet))))... Can't think of any suggestions - you seem to be looking at everything possible...(apart from asking if you recently bought new food; just wondering if the formulation has changed somehow...).... ....Grasping at straws here....

Oh, and I wonder if it's possible that something arose from that recent dental... But that seems unlikely, because you say CC looks well.....
 
Vet called.... all the tests came back fine. No infections of any kind. They did a fructosamine and that is coming back as non diabetic as well. Well that tells me it's only been high starting sat/sunday if the average is still in normal range. This is so frustrating!
 
JanetNJ said:
Vet called.... all the tests came back fine. No infections of any kind. They did a fructosamine and that is coming back as non diabetic as well. Well that tells me it's only been high starting sat/sunday if the average is still in normal range. This is so frustrating!
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Have you checked your meter? Could there be a problem with your strips? Bad batch or low battery?
 
TempestsMum said:
Have you checked your meter? Could there be a problem with your strips? Bad batch or low battery?
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Good suggestions.

The AT2 battery is supposed to be good for 1000 tests. I always change mine long before I ever get the low battery alert. With the amount of testing you were doing prior to OTJ and the length of time since OTJ...if you haven't changed the battery...that would be a good thing to rule out. Also with the strips it would be good if you could do a control solution test...just to be sure. It is always good to rule out all the basics.

Hope you are able to find a simple answer to this sudden change in readings. :bighug::bighug:
 
TempestsMum said:
Have you checked your meter? Could there be a problem with your strips? Bad batch or low battery?
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Well the control solution showed it was OK... Although that is a year old. I have new strips arriving in a day or two... I can try a strip from there. I suppose I could try changing the battery but I think it's OK.
 
JanetNJ said:
Well the control solution showed it was OK... Although that is a year old. I have new strips arriving in a day or two... I can try a strip from there. I suppose I could try changing the battery but I think it's OK.
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I hope it's just something simple like the strips or the battery, I guess you could test yourself and see? ;)
 
JanetNJ said:
We are in the same boat then. How long did you wait before starting insulin again?
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Well, I am currently in a bit of an argument with the vet, who does not want me to give him insulin. Honestly it seems like they just want to keep racking up tests & fees. I have a pretty old vial that I've been using, and it does seem to still be effective but I'm worried that it's not what I should be doing. (It's the original one from May 2016; has been stored in the refrigerator the whole time and is not cloudy or discolored.)

Vet has yet to re-prescribe anything, even though I took him in on July 20. So I put him back on the (old) juice two days after I noticed high bg readings. If you take a look at his spreadsheet you can see that I've got him at 1.5 units right now.
 
Oh and I wanted to add, he's playful, active & happy just as normal. He was drinking & peeing more, but since I took him completely off the YA dry that has decreased. He still thinks he's starving, though. :cat:
 
PlumsMom said:
Well, I am currently in a bit of an argument with the vet, who does not want me to give him insulin. Honestly it seems like they just want to keep racking up tests & fees. I have a pretty old vial that I've been using, and it does seem to still be effective but I'm worried that it's not what I should be doing. (It's the original one from May 2016; has been stored in the refrigerator the whole time and is not cloudy or discolored.)

Vet has yet to re-prescribe anything, even though I took him in on July 20. So I put him back on the (old) juice two days after I noticed high bg readings. If you take a look at his spreadsheet you can see that I've got him at 1.5 units right now.
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I still have my old vial too but haven't tried using it.
 
PlumsMom said:
Well, I am currently in a bit of an argument with the vet, who does not want me to give him insulin. Honestly it seems like they just want to keep racking up tests & fees. I have a pretty old vial that I've been using, and it does seem to still be effective but I'm worried that it's not what I should be doing. (It's the original one from May 2016; has been stored in the refrigerator the whole time and is not cloudy or discolored.)

Vet has yet to re-prescribe anything, even though I took him in on July 20. So I put him back on the (old) juice two days after I noticed high bg readings. If you take a look at his spreadsheet you can see that I've got him at 1.5 units right now.
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I don't understand what they feel the benefit of waiting. I'm going to give it a week and if I don't start seeing a significant decrease I'll start being a squeaky wheel.
 
My Alphatrak2 was new 2 years ago. The battery lasted 1.9 years. The tests were all good until the battery died.

Frustrating that there is no definite prognosis for CC. Even if it is not diabetes, could you give some insulin to pull down the BG?
 
sending prayers... I have concerns about my Rico coming out of remission as I have had to start the budesonide again :(
After a year it seems it would be smooth sailing but these kittys keep us on our toes!
Hoping it is just something that will pass but at least you know what to do if you do need to give a little insulin. Maybe CC just need s a little boost :)
Beautiful kitty:cat:
 
JeffJ said:
My Alphatrak2 was new 2 years ago. The battery lasted 1.9 years. The tests were all good until the battery died.

Frustrating that there is no definite prognosis for CC. Even if it is not diabetes, could you give some insulin to pull down the BG?
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I would but the vets are still saying wait and see.... I'm about ready to lose it. Tomorrow will be a week.
 
JanetNJ said:
Just to cover all bases I got new strips and a new battery today.... Still 284.... It was worth a try.
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Dang it. Was so hoping it was that. :( I'm still thinking so maybe something will come up to try. :bighug:
 
Elizabeth and Bertie said:
Janet, I really wish I could reach through the screen and give you a huge reassuring hug.... ...Please consider yourself (((HUGGED)))!!! :bighug::bighug::bighug:
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The vets are hopeful (I think overly optimistic) that the high numbers are temporary and will come down. I think the sooner we start insulin the better our chances of second remission. I am feeling very frustrated.
 
That sounds SUPER frustrating--I'm so sorry you're having to wait, on top of just dealing with the stress and disappointment and mystery :(
 
They can go out of remission out of the blue.
Is CC suddenly drinking and eating a lot more?
 
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