Question on Spreadsheet....for human meters or feline meters?

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Toro & Ovi

Toro & Ovi

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About all the numbers there....are they for human meters or for feline meters? Because if they are for human meters, then the numbers entered for feline meters have to be 30-40% smaller - if I'm not wrong. So, for example, PMPS of 400 from Toronto's SS (measured with AlphaTrack2) should probably be entered in SS as 400 x 0.77= 308 (308x1.3=400) - as is not equal with a PMPS of 400 from somebody using a human meter - am I wrong? This way they can be compared.....a 400 measured with a feline meter is not the same as a 400 measured with a human meter.
This is big difference especially for small numbers and can be dangerous...can somebody tell me how this works - am I right ?
Same for the protocols...they are all done for human meters...I suppose people which use feline meters should use the same percentage when they start their protocol based on protocol numbers....anybody can clarify this ?
 
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There is a spreadsheet designed for alphatrak users. To my knowledge though since the protocol is written for human meters the only difference when using an alphatrak meter is the reduction point when using TR. it is 68 instead of 50.
 
There is no conversion from AT to human meters. Use the spreadsheet for the AT if that is what meter you are using. It incorporates the colour change to light green at 68, instead of 50 in the human meter version of the SS.

And yes, the dosing methods were written for human meters, but we just use the same numbers to make dose changes, no matter which meter you are using, with the exception of the "too low, take action" number of 50/68. It is true that 400 on the AT is not the same as 400 on a human meter, but as far as we are concerned, 400 is too high a blood sugar, regardless of meter. The meters get closer as you get to lower numbers where it counts. And any two meters can be 20% apart by law, so the numbers could be even close when you take that meter variance into consideration.
 
Thank you, 30% represents 20-35 (60-150 mg/dl) where really matters, indeed. Even less on the danger zone. As long as everybody is aware of it, everything is good.
 
The difference in numbers between human and pet meters is not a straight 30 to 40%. Generally the higher the reading the bigger the difference. So at higher numbers the difference might be more than 40% and at lower numbers the readings could be almost identical. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to associate the pet meter to human meter numbers. Know your low warning number for your meter (68 US/3.8 mmol)and if it makes you more comfortable, you can always give yourself a little more cushion for dose reductions if using SLGS. When I was using a pet meter with SLGS, I initially used 115 (6.4 mmol) to 120 (6.7 mmol) for reductions and then worked back to 90 (5 mmol) as I got to know my cat.
 
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The difference in numbers between human and pet meters is not a straight 30 to 40%. Generally the higher the reading the bigger the difference. So at higher numbers the difference might be more than 40% and at lower numbers the readings could be almost identical. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to associate the pet meter to human meter numbers. Know your low warning number for your meter (68 US/3.8 mmol)and if it makes you more comfortable, you can always give yourself a little more cushion for dose reductions if using SLGS. When I was using a pet meter with SLGS, I initially used 115 (6.4 mmol) to 120 (6.7 mmol) for reductions and then worked back to 90 (5 mmol) as I got to know my cat.
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Driving me crazy? I'm already there since the start of this, now I have to get out of there. I haven't crunch so many numbers in such a short period of time since school.
You are right, in human meters vs. pet meters, knowing the dangerous low for both is very important - but the guessing in numbers between them will make a pretty grey zone on where to increase/keep/decrease the dose. Know your cat, guess the insulin dose - I hope will eventually work.
 
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Toronto & Ovi said:
Thank you. I now understand that besides the dangerous low numbers (which are king of well defined) everything else is a speculation between human and feline meters. That, for me, is really interesting - and strange in the same time.
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You’re very welcome. The calibration methods used between human and pet meters are different as the size of the red blood cell is different. So it makes sense that the numbers will be different.
 
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