Beenie's dose

[Kris & Teasel]

Re LL versus ProZinc: many acros are high dosers so the cost of ProZinc would be prohibitive and the volume you'd have to inject would be large. I think, too, that the huge L depot can keep BG under better control over 24 hours then the in/out ProZinc.

 

[Beenie (GA)]

Re LL versus ProZinc: many acros are high dosers so the cost of ProZinc would be prohibitive and the volume you'd have to inject woulds be large. I think, too, that the huge L depot can keep BG under better control over 24 hours then the in/out ProZinc.

Now I'm a little more confused . I thought a unit was a unit and when I read how dosing works with Lantus if we are at 9 U on Prozinc wouldn't that mean we would continue with 9 U on Lantus (or Levimer)? Oh wait its because of the syringes?!? You only use U100 for L/L, correct? Then that would make sense. Right now I'm using the U-100 for fine tuning although right now if I had U40 with half unit markers that would be fine but I don't so no need to order more syringes. Anyway converting we are at 23.5 U on the U-100 syringe. If we were say to switch tomorrow and we would only draw 9.4 U using a U100 syringe if we were on Levemir? If this is correct I sooooo get it now and thank you for clarifying. This make so much more sense on switching, sheer volume of the injection.

 

[Djamila]

Yes, that's correct. The insulins are different concentrations so you need less volume of an L insulin to do the same job.

 

[Beenie (GA)]

Yes, that's correct. The insulins are different concentrations so you need less volume of an L insulin to do the same job.

Now I really wish I didn't have the new bottle of ProZinc. I can't believe I didn't get that until now! I guess better late than never.

 

[Djamila]

How long do you think it will last you? Maybe by the time you get to the vet, do the tests, get the result, order the L/L (whichever you choose), maybe by then it will be mostly gone?

 

[Beenie (GA)]

How long do you think it will last you? Maybe by the time you get to the vet, do the tests, get the result, order the L/L (whichever you choose), maybe by then it will be mostly gone?

I forgot how to calculate how many days you have on a vial based on units per day used. I saw it somewhere on the forum but forgot where. I did the calculation last week when we were on a lower dose and a vial would last us 27 days. So it won't take long to use and I think you're right by the time I get results back and everything I should be done or almost done with the new vial.
Then the big decision will be Lantus or Levemir . I would've just done with Lantus but since a few have had the stinging issues at higher dose I wonder. Some do not, ECID. We'll see.

 

[Beenie (GA)]

You can certainly stick to the 0.2 u increases but I wouldn't hold a dose longer than 3 cycles if it's not doing the job. You're right about ProZinc's flexibility, though - scheduling, dose changing, etc. Big plus.

Hi Kris
@Kris & Teasel
I know you posted this a while ago but its been on my mind since I said that I liked the "flexibility" of ProZinc. I've been scouring the LL stickies and we are so suited for TR on Lantus/Levemir. I already test easily 5 times a day if not more. Never late/early with injections. Based on all the scenarios of people that work full time, even out of the house, it can still be done! I feel so much better because I was so worried that this new insulin would be a very strict/difficult protocol to follow. I've been following that protocol for some time now so it wouldn't be unfamiliar territory, am I wrong? I'll just need to view Beenie's SS a little different because of the depot. It makes more sense to me now that I've been studying up
I just like being prepared, if you couldn't already tell

 

[Kris & Teasel]

Hi Kris
@Kris & Teasel
I know you posted this a while ago but its been on my mind since I said that I liked the "flexibility" of ProZinc. I've been scouring the LL stickies and we are so suited for TR on Lantus/Levemir. I already test easily 5 times a day if not more. Never late/early with injections. Based on all the scenarios of people that work full time, even out of the house, it can still be done! I feel so much better because I was so worried that this new insulin would be a very strict/difficult protocol to follow. I've been following that protocol for some time now so it wouldn't be unfamiliar territory, am I wrong? I'll just need to view Beenie's SS a little different because of the depot. It makes more sense to me now that I've been studying up
I just like being prepared, if you couldn't already tell

If all the Lantus/Lev requirements re timing, testing, etc. are ticked off on your checklist then you'll be fine with it. It's the way to go with a high dose kitty.

 

[Beenie (GA)]

Just checking in. Nothing new to report. We're going to 12 U tomorrow morning so we're flying through this vial. Uuugh!
Mailings from MSU haven't come in yet so still a wait until we get testing done and results back. We'll be ordering Levemir in a few days. I know not every kitty has the stinging issue on high doses of Lantus but some do so I just want to circumvent that and go to Levemir.