Pita's Dosing Party: 4

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Caitlin M

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Hi all! Pita has been doing very well recently and absolutely loving our nice weather. I did a curve last weekend and it also went very well. I've stayed at 1 unit this week and think it's okay, but wanted to get thoughts on maybe going up to 1.2 again. He seems pretty stable so I don't want to make him all bouncy but figured I'd see other points of view. Thanks :)
 
Hi all! Pita has been doing very well recently and absolutely loving our nice weather. I did a curve last weekend and it also went very well. I've stayed at 1 unit this week and think it's okay, but wanted to get thoughts on maybe going up to 1.2 again. He seems pretty stable so I don't want to make him all bouncy but figured I'd see other points of view. Thanks :)
Nice numbers! You could try to nudge him down a hair with 1.2 u. Not sure if that'll send off into a mad bounce or not.
 
PMPS was just 166. I was going to do the 1 unit as planned....I can test again at a +3 (or later). Thoughts on dose?!
 
Stuck with the 1u. I'll make sure I test later and can always give a snack! I'm sure he won't protest :p
 
Whoops sorry we missed you Caitlin! I think 1 unit was a good choice...sticking with a dose when they get lower numbers is scary but I think it pays off.
 
Whoops sorry we missed you Caitlin! I think 1 unit was a good choice...sticking with a dose when they get lower numbers is scary but I think it pays off.
Thanks Rachel! I was a little late with everything tonight so I didn't want to wait any longer.
 
Were you at +13? I think it was a good call, but do get that +3 later if you can.

I was going to say that I agree that you could probably go to 1.2, but if that was a +13 test, I'm having second thoughts...
 
Hey all! PMPS was just at 140. In going to retest in 20 to see what I get. I doubt it'll even rise another 10 points, but regardless, I'm thinking I should try .8? I'm going to a friend's tonight and may not end up coming home (gonna enjoy a summer drink!). I know I gave 1 unit on a 142 AMPS the other day, but it was also during the 13 hour time frame. Help!
 
Hey all! PMPS was just at 140. In going to retest in 20 to see what I get. I doubt it'll even rise another 10 points, but regardless, I'm thinking I should try .8? I'm going to a friend's tonight and may not end up coming home (gonna enjoy a summer drink!). I know I gave 1 unit on a 142 AMPS the other day, but it was also during the 13 hour time frame. Help!
I'd be careful at this low PS, especially because you might not be home tonight. You don't have enough mid cycle data when shooting low PSs to predict his most likely response. I wouldn't give more than half a unit max. (0.4 u with a U100) but it might be better to skip all together. Safety first.
 
I'd be careful at this low PS, especially because you might not be home tonight. You don't have enough mid cycle data when shooting low PSs to predict his most likely response. I wouldn't give more than half a unit max. (0.4 u with a U100) but it might be better to skip all together. Safety first.
Hmm, I hadn't even thought about skipping. I may just do the .4 and make sure I come home. Thanks Kris! Why do I feel like this only happens when I'm not going to be able to test?!! :rolleyes:
 
Hey all! So I may have made a mistake. AMPS was 103 today and because I'm home all this week I decided to just give .2 units. I've been testing all day and he's doing well but his +7.5 was just 111 and I'm afraid of him bouncing because I gave him insulin. Soooo I'll post his PMPS later to ask for help with dosing. :oops:
 
+10 was just 108. Lower than his +7.5 and I doubt he'll get up to 150. So I'm wondering if I should do another .2 units if PMPS is at 101 or above and no shoot if it's at or below 100? Give me thoughts please!
 
Ok, gonna just give .2 again. Just wasn't expecting it to be so high all of a sudden! Not that 177 is high...but you know. Anywho, I'll do the .2 and see what tomorrow brings
 
So. He ate and immediately jumped back outside (catio) before I could give him his shot. He usually lingers and knows he needs it. I spent almost ten minutes trying to get him back in, but to no avail. I had to go outside, open the gate and pick him up, just to bring him back inside for his shot! I feel like he's definitely up to something. He's never done that before, so I'm now VERY interested to see his AMPS. Oy.
 
I'm trying to figure out where to go from here. He didn't get his shot and ate dinner. Can he still go hypo even without Insulin? I'll test him before bed but I'm just curious. As far as tomorrow am goes, should I continue with the >101 gets .2 or <100 is NS? Thanks everyone! I just know since I do it so early I want to feel prepared.
 
I'm trying to figure out where to go from here. He didn't get his shot and ate dinner. Can he still go hypo even without Insulin? I'll test him before bed but I'm just curious. As far as tomorrow am goes, should I continue with the >101 gets .2 or <100 is NS? Thanks everyone! I just know since I do it so early I want to feel prepared.
No, he shouldn't go hypo because ProZinc is out of his system after 12 hours or so.
 
Are you around to monitor tomorrow?
Here's what my gut thinks: if he's over 100, and you'll be around, I think you could go with the 0.2, but if you are not going to be around, I think I would pull up a 0.2, and then let out a drop or two. So something like a 0.1

If you are not going to be around to monitor, err on the side of caution. It's better to skip than to overdose if you aren't going to be home. Remember that 50-120 is considered normal BG, and this is his first diagnosis, so you don't have to be as aggressive as I have to be with Sam. It's great if you can be there to keep an eye on him, but if you can't be careful. Okay, I've said that like five times now. I think you get the point. ;)

This is his first NS in a very long time, and the first one that is part of a larger pattern of declining numbers, so it will be really interesting to see what he does in the morning!

PS Sam was a 79 tonight -- soooo close to matching again!
 
Are you around to monitor tomorrow?
Here's what my gut thinks: if he's over 100, and you'll be around, I think you could go with the 0.2

I will be around so I'll stick with my plan I think. Thanks Djamila! Glad to hear about Sam as well :)
 
So this is me not really talking about what's happening and more curious as to how to proceed. What are the numbers I should continue at with a NS? 150 had previously been my no shoot number, but I obviously gave .2 on numbers much lower than that earlier this week. I don't want to give insulin just because he goes over 100 again, but I know he will. I also don't want to not give insulin and have him start rising too much. I know I just said things that I have no control over and won't know until I try! I saw on someone else's SS, numbers in the high 100's that still weren't given insulin and were fine, so I'm trying to gauge where to go from here. I hope that all made sense because my head is a bit of a jungle right now
 
lol I think I made sense of it! Yes you'll have to do your own experiments but your best SS to look at right now, might be Sam's (Djamila). :cat:
 
lol I think I made sense of it! Yes you'll have to do your own experiments but your best SS to look at right now, might be Sam's (Djamila). :cat:
I just looked and that's awesome! I'm curious to know about that also, if she hadn't dosed the first day he was above 100 again, what would've happened! Ugh, I greatly dislike experiments. But I guess I'll just have to roll the dice!
 
Experiments suck...but they're part of the deal! I'd say pick a number you won't dose under for days when you aren't home (maybe like 130ish?). If you are home to monitor, then be more daring...and get data so you can decide if you can lower your NS number for when you aren't home!
 
What I was told last time I was here (1st diagnosis and 2nd diagnosis cats follow slightly different "rules") was that under 120 you don't shoot because it's a healthy number. Right now my NS number is around 90. I don't think you should shoot Pita that low though. Sam's on his second rodeo so I'm told you have to be more aggressive with following them all the way down the dosing scale. I think if you're home to monitor, it's going to be a little bit of going with your gut on when to shoot below 120 and when to skip. You could still give a 0.1 or a Drop of insulin if you start to get a more dramatic response to shooting the lower 100's.

I agree with Rachel that if you aren't going to be around to monitor, I would raise the NS number a bit for the sake of safety.

It gets a little tricky, the farther into the NS zone you get. In the first few days, I would say that you shoot as soon as a shootable number pops up. But if you are on like Day 8 of NS numbers and get a 122 or something, I would wait for a second number before resuming shots. Those are just example numbers/days. There isn't a "rule" about Day 8 or 122 or anything. It's kind of a gut thing.

Basically I'd say just keep posting a lot and keep eyes on it and we'll all figure it out together! This part of the journey has been a little tricky and uncertain for us too. It's a lot of guess and pray.

Oh, and you asked what would have happened if I hadn't shot on that first blue. Who knows? My gut is telling me that he's not ready to go off of insulin yet. His numbers are in the healthy ranges, but he's still getting some insulin that's holding him there. Tonight is an example of that. I dropped his morning dose a bit, and he's back up in blues this evening. So he still needs the insulin. Maybe he would have gone back down if I hadn't shot that cycle, but more likely he would have started rising again.
 
What I was told last time I was here (1st diagnosis and 2nd diagnosis cats follow slightly different "rules") was that under 120 you don't shoot because it's a healthy number. Right now my NS number is around 90. I don't think you should shoot Pita that low though. Sam's on his second rodeo so I'm told you have to be more aggressive with following them all the way down the dosing scale. I think if you're home to monitor, it's going to be a little bit of going with your gut on when to shoot below 120 and when to skip. You could still give a 0.1 or a Drop of insulin if you start to get a more dramatic response to shooting the lower 100's.

I agree with Rachel that if you aren't going to be around to monitor, I would raise the NS number a bit for the sake of safety.

It gets a little tricky, the farther into the NS zone you get. In the first few days, I would say that you shoot as soon as a shootable number pops up. But if you are on like Day 8 of NS numbers and get a 122 or something, I would wait for a second number before resuming shots. Those are just example numbers/days. There isn't a "rule" about Day 8 or 122 or anything. It's kind of a gut thing.

Basically I'd say just keep posting a lot and keep eyes on it and we'll all figure it out together! This part of the journey has been a little tricky and uncertain for us too. It's a lot of guess and pray.

Oh, and you asked what would have happened if I hadn't shot on that first blue. Who knows? My gut is telling me that he's not ready to go off of insulin yet. His numbers are in the healthy ranges, but he's still getting some insulin that's holding him there. Tonight is an example of that. I dropped his morning dose a bit, and he's back up in blues this evening. So he still needs the insulin. Maybe he would have gone back down if I hadn't shot that cycle, but more likely he would have started rising again.
Thank you SO much for all of this. Very helpful and I appreciate it!
 
Good morning all (although I'm going back to bed!). Pita is still doing well and my new experiment for PS is to shoot on a blue, NS on a green. So far so good. Maybe in a couple days I'll switch it up and try to NS on a lower blue as well. But for now I think this is good!
 
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