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Shana Martin

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I'm trying so hard to read all the information but I just don't think I have enough data yet between shots. Abby keeps getting low shot numbers and then spikes. I will only be here 3.5 hours more so I won't be able to test her all day to see what happens if I do give her a shot.

I just don't want to shoot and then she gets wayyy too low
 
I would not shoot if I knew I was not going to be there, but it is my opinion only.
I'm trying so hard to read all the information but I just don't think I have enough data yet between shots.
It also makes it harder to interpret if the dose is changed as frequently as you do.
 
I know.. the vet told me if she's between 100-200, give 1u. If she's between 200-300, give 1.5-2u.

This is too overwhelming
 
I know.. the vet told me if she's between 100-200, give 1u. If she's between 200-300, give 1.5-2u.
It is better to stick with one dose and see what it does for a kitty. Lantus dose is best based on how low it makes a cat go, not on preshot number which might be influenced by number of factors day to day. Your vet maybe not very familiar with Lantus or s/he would not give such recommendation, IMHO.
This is too overwhelming
It will get better once you have enough data collected in the SS and figured out the optimal dose for Abby.
 
I just don't know how to get more data with my crazy schedule. I'm trying :(

I just tested her after she ate at almost an hour ago, she is now 182. I gave 1.5. I'm going to try to keep it at 1.5 for a few more cycles then just see how that goes. I'll try my best to get a few tests mid day tomorrow.
 
If you can't be there I wouldn't shoot on these greens. Do your best to get extra tests whenever you can. That will help to build the picture over time.

Yes, Lantus works best when a dose is held constant. Changing the dose frequently alters the size of the depot and can lead to some wonky responses.
 
Well i shot 1.5u an hour after she ate because she went up to 182. I just checked her now and she is at 50!!!
 
Hi there,
are you 2 or 3 hours after you shot?
What did you shoot last night? there's nothing in the ss.

I think you need to give some HC food now, a couple of teaspoons of Gravy and please check again in 30 minutes.
It's early in the cycle and he could still drop lower.
 
Please get another test now, it's 30min since you posted the 50..
This could be very serious for Abby.
Even if she seems to be behaving normally she could be dangerously low, you need to keep on top of this to keep her safe.
 
I gave her gravy lovers right after I tested her. I just tested her it says 137 right now .

Last night I have her 1.5 and she tested at 393 last night
That's good, how many hours past shot time are you now?

ETABy my reckoning it's +2.5 as you shot an hour late, best I can make out anyways.
 
Do you think that is just a food spike and she is going to drop again? I only have 2 test strips left. My other box is here tomorrow
 
Do you think that is just a food spike and she is going to drop again?

Even though she's come up with the gravy lovers, they can drop when the carb wears of.

I only have 2 test strips left. My other box is here tomorrow
Have you got a pharmacy nearby, 2 strips isn't going to cut it, you could grab a human meter and strips at any pharmacy.
A lot of folk use Walmart and the relion.
But honestly at this stage any human meter is better than nothing.
 
Do you think she is going to be okay? I literally can't leave her side right now I'm freaking out she's purring so loud
 
Right now 3 hours past shot time
And when did you give the gravy lovers.

Because the carbs can wear off you need to grab a test in 45min or so, we don't know if she is out of the woods yet.

Do you think she is going to be okay? I literally can't leave her side right now I'm freaking out she's purring so loud
Breath......
She's OK for now, with the number you just got, chances are she is going to bounce of this but we don't know for sure. If you have a pharmaccy nearby and you can get back in 45min, you should be ok.
 
Getting some strips is important, if she does dip again you are going to need more than 2, and you will need some for tonight anyway.

On the human monitor, what are the difference in numbers to be read vs the alpha
The reduction point for AT is 68, for the human meter 50.

Don't worry about that now, just go get one, honestly it's worth having one as a back up, my george threw his meter in his water fountain and I had to make a mad drive to get a spare, it's best to be prepared.
 
If you are going to dash out and get one, give Abby a teaspoon of LC as you head out the door, it can help her keep her numbers flat.
1 hour 15 mins ago I gave her the gravy food
If she is still holding her own 2 hours after the HC, we consider that she is safe. But I have seen kitties drop again when the carb wears off, if that happens you are going to need more than 2 strips.

On the plus side the human strips/meter are much cheaper than the AT. Using a human meter can amount to quite a cost saving, and they can be just as useful a tool for managing bg as the AT.
 
If you are going to dash out and get one, give Abby a teaspoon of LC as you head out the door, it can help her keep her numbers flat.

If she is still holding her own 2 hours after the HC, we consider that she is safe. But I have seen kitties drop again when the carb wears off, if that happens you are going to need more than 2 strips.

On the plus side the human strips/meter are much cheaper than the AT. Using a human meter can amount to quite a cost saving, and they can be just as useful a tool for managing bg as the AT.

Okay so I will test her again in 35 mins and see where she is holding. I have a Walmart 10 mins from me. I'm going to run up there. What is LC?
 
Don't worry about that now, just go get one, honestly it's worth having one as a back up, my george threw his meter in his water fountain and I had to make a mad drive to get a spare, it's best to be prepared.
The same happened with mine...Samba knocked his off the dresser and right into his water bowl. It completely stopped working. You won't regret having a backup. The Relion Confirm meter at Walmart is only $15, and the test strips are much cheaper than the alphatrak's. Btw, you are doing a great job!!!
 
Awesome!!! That will be one of my projects for the day :) I will report back to you in a month! :pLol
Haha.
The same happened with mine...Samba knocked his off the dresser and right into his water bowl. It completely stopped working. You won't regret having a backup. The Relion Confirm meter at Walmart is only $15, and the test strips are much cheaper than the alphatrak's. Btw, you are doing a great job!!!
thank you!! I just got the relion meter and strips
 
Yay on the 152, that's great, and as you are two hours from the HC looks like she's in the clear.
Are you heading out?

If you have to leave, leave some regular LC food for her to snack on, the excitement is over.
If you are not leaving, you could check again in a couple of hours, a little extra data gathering is always useful.

Make sure you mark on your ss when you are using the human meter. When the AT strips arrive you can either save them for a back up or for when the vet wants a curve ( I know a lot of vets prefer the AT, as they are more familiar with the ranges for that) or swap back to using them. Most of us use human meters, as the guidelines we follow are based on human readings, and they are so much more economical, and as you found today in an emergency much easier to get replacement strips.


he's up walking around. I gave her a toy and she was just playing with it!
I'm glad she's feeling perky.

Well done on handling the numbers today.

For future reference, shooting a number that's food influenced can be tricky, what happened today was, she was in the 90's, you with held shot, fed, and tested an hour later, the 182 you got an hour after food was a food spike, when the carb wore off and the insulin onset at around +2 after shot, she dived.

On a house keeping front, can you put the 182 in the amps box, as that is what you shot, and note that you delayed shot by one hour ie you shot at +13 not +12. And make sure the other numbers you got are in the correct boxes, ie, I think you said the 50 was 2 hours after shot so then that needs to go in the +2.

Tonight your shot will be 12 hours from when you shot, so if you usually shoot at 7am, but today it was 8am, then tonight you should shoot at 8pm. To get back on schedule, tomorrow morning you can shoot at 7.30 and day after tomorrow at 7am. Does that make sense?
 
Gill, I seriously cannot thank you enough for helping me today. I'm so glad Abby is okay now!! I definitely learned now not to give my cat a shot with a food induced number... How scary that was!!! I will update my SS tonight and move forward with the relion meter for daily. I kept getting error messages on my alpha and went through so many more than expected.

Once again, THANK YOU! I'm so glad she is okay :)
 
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