I don't think anyone can predict whether .75 is the right dose for now. After the green night followed by a bounce and a skipped shot we need to start the count over again and see what happens.He does need to be getting more than .75 of a unit, but I know he's a master at bouncing. Hopefully somebody with good "dosing advice" will chime in
ok so what is my next step ? do i test today a curve ? what do i do?
I just for
I didn't test at +2 or + 3 I missed and not enough blood so I felt bad and I do have dehydrated chicken he has a treat but I felt bad I did warm ear this time and I got +6 bs it was 90 (5) what now ?! That's on .75 unitGo ahead and test now and let's see where he is. Just post in his subject line and update this thread
I have never fed Fancy Feast so I don't know what the different carb levels are. I believe the classics (pates) are about 3%. Most members use Dr. Lisa's Food Composition Charts for the % carbs.
Had to get kids from daycare and school I am home now
I have at 8 on 5.3 I stalled and feed checking now
No change ??!
You stalled? Or you fed him? Stalling means you held off on his food.
i cant it wont let meUpdate the info in your title
can u tell me what to do and ill follow it ?
like + 1 after he ate and continue testing every few hours and no insulin
i didnt shoot any insulin it was too low and i fed and waited tested didn't go up so i posted and was waiting for instructions
ok testing just to document ? no insulin food away after 5 am and test at 7 am ? if higher then 11.11 give how much?
Start over tomorrow, but you're going to have to back up your times so getting to school, getting the kids away, all that morning stuff doesn't overshadow Jelly's needs too
hes tested at 8 am not 7 and he had insulin 8:15 am and did 6+ and now evening PMPS and didnt shoot he ate tested again at 8:45 and same number
well i dont know how to update the title to get help? do i start new thread for help and i followed marje advice just posted wrong i guesssOkay, no shot tonight. You have to be patient Rochelle. If your title doesn't post a question, or if you've not updated it, nobody is going to be watching the thread.
Marje gave good advice in regards to posting at lower than 150, which you did. But until you change the title, nobody is aware you need dosing advice
So he's an hour "behind". If his number is staying level, don't shoot. But the 12 hours between shots is pretty much written in stone, due to the way the insulin itself works
i didnt shoot at 7 am it was test 8 am insulin 8:15 and then +6 and now at 8 pm low and posted
No, don't start a new thread, but you now know how to edit your title. You can add the blue question mark if you want (but not on every post, or after awhile it is like "crying wolf"well i dont know how to update the title to get help? do i start new thread for help and i followed marje advice just posted wrong i guesss
) You can put DOSING ADVICE PLEASE in caps. But you have to be patient.
yes now it would be an hour behind when i first posted it was due time but i messed up title and thats my bad i am patient i am just trying to follow all instructions
I understand. I read your replies. What we're saying is that you shot at 8:15 am, it is now and hour and 10 minutes past that 12 hour mark. If you feel you'll need advice, then start testing a little earlier, in anticipation that you'll have to be patient waiting for an answer. You seem comfortable shooting in the am, so that's great, but it is his evening number that is always "iffy". So if you are able to BACK UP his am time, then that means his evening time will be earlier.
Well....not exactly on the 12 hours between shots. While it is desirable, it's not written in stone. I've shot early and late with no issues but, for a new member with little data, I would certainly take the more cautious route.
ok i will test earlier an hour before shot is due i was just confused as i thought he needed to be tested at 12 hr mark pre insulin and food taken away 2 hrs prior so now i will test at 7 and then post and have hour before its due
i did fill in sheet and i will test what every 2 hrs till bed ? re test at 7 am and shoot if over 11?You tested at 8 and fed. What do a test soon and fill in the spreadsheet
(Hang in there, you'll get this)
I'm not saying to test an hour before the shot is due in the morning. But in the evening, as his numbers are so wonky, I'd suggest getting a +11 (one hour before his PMPS. This way if he is low, you can post explaining it is the +11 test only, but due to his history, this is what you anticipate.
I missed this post completely and wish I seen it .... I missed the +2 and got a +6 and then the PMPS I am sorry it looks like I am not listening I truly am and trying to understand it all and from what I get it's a 12 hour cycle and he's going to go lower and lower and lower you'll be at the lowest in six hours in and then he should start to go back up now
Lantus cycle, would be about +6.
Rochelle
Let me see if I can provide some info to help but not overload you.
I think you already know that the day is divided into two 12-hour cycles. One begins with the AM preshot or AMPS and the other with the PM preshot or PMPS. If you skip a shot, for purposes of posting a thread here, then the AMPS becomes AMBG and PMPS becomes PMBG even though the SS still says AMPS and PMPS.
Below is a chart to give you an idea of what an active Lantus cycle looks like, eventually. Jelly's SS probably won't look like this for quite some time consistently, but this is the goal.
Three terms that are very important in each cycle and that you should eventually be able to recognize on Jelly's SS:
Onset: the time in the cycle when the insulin actually onsets. For Lantus, this can be +2 or +3, generally, but every cat is different (ECID).
Nadir: the time in the cycle where you see the peak action of the insulin and numbers will reach their lowest. This definitely differs by cat but, in a "perfect"
Duration: How long the insulin lasts. Lantus is a long duration insulin with a typical duration of 12 hours but some cats get longer than that and some get less. Absorption from shot to shot can vary up to 50% so you can see how that might affect duration.
Today, Jelly was clearing a bounce and, often, when this happens, numbers just keep coming down so the lowest point is often at the next preshot...or even after. You should always be prepared for an active cycle when Jelly is clearing a bounce.
One thing that can help is feeding the curve. Not all cats need the caregiver (CG) to feed the curve but I believe if a kitt, like Jelly, clears his bounces like he did today, it might help you.
While detailed feeding the curve instructions are a subject to be dealt with separately, it might help him if you fed a portion of food at AMPS,+1, +2, and +3.
It often helps to feed the majority at AMPS and +1 and the rest at +2 and +3. However, this varies by cat and might need to be adjusted. The goal is just to offset the action of the insulin with low carb food so the numbers don't drastically drop early in the cycle.
Darcy suggested you get a +11 test because that will give you an idea of where he is headed by preshot. You will still need to get a preshot test though because numbers can change quickly in some situations.
It's also good to get a +2 test every cycle that you can because it will give you an idea if it's going to be a busy cycle. If the +2 test is similar or less than the preshot, you should count on it being a busy cycle.
I think that's enough to load you with for one day.