Have you dealt with bouncing?

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Tanya and Ducia

Tanya and Ducia

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Hello everyone,

I wanted to ask whoever dealt or still is dealing with bouncing to high BG numbers about their methods/approaches to the problem.

My kitty Ducia bounces every time

1) she stays in lower numbers; and
2) when she experienced drops by large numbers.:confused::mad:

How do you beat it?

I can do slowing of dives but what do you do with the "panici liver" reaction except being patient?

Thank you for your time!
 
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My understanding from Kris's previous posts, that it is a complex highway of reactions in kitties system to say to the liver you need to dump glucose back into the system and it can be on a perceived low by kitty's body - regardless of what the meter says. Jones still bounces every now and again.
 
@StephG also has a kitty who's addicted to the trampoline :p. Sorry Lisa, didn't get the alert o_O, just stopped her while checking through. Without really studying Ducia's SS, she doesn't bounce around nearly as "bad" as Chuck or Teasel ;). I am not too familiar with Lantus/Levemir depot insulins, so my initial question is if her diet is consistent? No chance of getting any contraband? One of our cat daddy's observed sun bathing, empty food bowl, and something else influenced their kitty's BG :smuggrin:.
 
Hi Tanya,
Yes, Teasel is a champion bouncer. My personal opinion is that there isn't a lot you can do to control it effectively. Some people have a little success with giving snacks at key times and I've experimented with that a bit. It didn't really help very much. Teasel bounces easily, goes high and his bounces last a long time, sometimes more than 6 cycles. He's better when the insulin dose is high enough to get him into low blues and/or dark green but then he dives into lime green easily. If I back off that dose even a little bit for safety and my peace of mind he starts the big bounces again and his SS fills up with pink. I've gone through this pattern many, many times over the months he's been on Lantus and not much has changed. I don't let it get me down because it would be too stressful to live that way. It's just the way he is.
 
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Hello Ducia

Yes Babu is a serious diver which means he is also a siruous bouncer, and he reimained like that util he went OTJ, I did used food, MC, to stir up the cycle and mainly try and avoid him going too low so that I could hold the dose, some times It worked , some times not since it is really hard to know exactly when to give it to him and how sensible to carbs is the kitty and may change from one time to another. So I guess is mainly a matter of a lot of patience and trial and error to try and stablish when to give LC and when MC .

I know there are people here that have been succesful in controlling the bouncing that way so I think is worth the try
 
Yong said:
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Really?! How interesting.We started to get sun on our balcony about 4 weeks ago in the afternoons - Ducia spends at least one hour sunbathing and seems to enjoy it enormously. The sun is there only from April thru October I think..
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question is if her diet is consistent
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4 weeks the same - 2 2.8oz can Tiki x 2 24 h. Fed in small portions throughout the day - this feeding scheme slows down the early drops/make drops not as steep .
 
Kris & Teasel said:
I don't let it get me down because it would be too stressful to live that way.
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I agree and I am not really stressed - rather reluctant to accept (yet) that there is nothing to be done. I sort of cannot accept/believe that the silly panici Mr. Liver can fool the entire community of wisest and most dedicated feline CGs in the world.:):mad:
On the other hand if Mr. Liver = Mother Nature than it casts different light here.
 
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Veronica & Babu-chiri said:
Hello Ducia

Yes Babu is a serious diver which means he is also a siruous bouncer, and he reimained like that util he went OTJ, I did used food, MC, to stir up the cycle and mainly try and avoid him going too low so that I could hold the dose, some times It worked , some times not since it is really hard to know exactly when to give it to him and how sensible to carbs is the kitty and may change from one time to another. So I guess is mainly a matter of a lot of patience and trial and error to try and stablish when to give LC and when MC .

I know there are people here that have been succesful in controlling the bouncing that way so I think is worth the try
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That's about sums up what I was doing lately - steering to avoid lows. I achieved some degree of success with the onset dives but then Ducia decided that it was no time for me to rest on my laurels and moved lowering - sometimes steep lowering to the later hours of the cycle.

I looked at Babu's SS and I have a couple of questions. But 1st - congratulation on the OTJ!:D:bighug: Well done both of you!
Question No 1: beginning early April Babu's BGs began to stabilize in the lower ranges - were there any changes made to his diet or maybe extra playing/exercises done at the same time? Anything new at all - sleeping patterns, appy change, cancelled medications, anything? and Q No 2: in the Remarks - often says "had a/d" - what is a/d? And Q No3 - by MC do you mean Nature Variety Instinct? I thought all of them were below 7% so I took it to be LC.

TY Veronica!:bighug:
 
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Question No 1: beginning early April Babu's BGs began to stabilize in the lower ranges - were there any changes made to his diet or maybe extra playing/exercises done at the same time? Anything new at all - sleeping patterns, appy change, cancelled medications, anything? and Q No 2: in the Remarks - often says "had a/d" - what is a/d? And Q No3 - by MC do you mean Nature Variety Instinct? I thought all of them were below 7% so I took it to be LC.
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By mid march he had an UTI infection and didn't wanted to eat so vet asked me to start feeding him Hill's a/d (when I noted a/d in the remarks I'm referring to this food) first days he was only eating this but after a week of the episode he was having only half of his food (Nature Variety Instinct ) and the other half of a/d, later on and since down here we do not have many options for food, what I did is used a/d when ever I needed MC food (By MC I mean above 10% actually Hill's a/d is 12%) .

Also the vet started him on 1 pill of Azodil at night, that he has been having that since then

And Yes you are right Nature Variety Instinct is LC, since we started de OTJ trial that's what he has been having no more MC
 
Smokey was a pro at bouncing and shark diving. He would go from high 300's to 34 in 2 1/2 hrs. He had to fed every 3 hours around the clock for other reason. He was a long term diabetic and his insulin was interrupted for many months before I got him. He was on 3 different insulin. His bounce would last for 3 days and at one point they started lasting 1 day so it got better. He would also bounce if he hit a blue number. We tried different food strategy and times. Heck even different foods. His last couple of months I was homemaking his food. He just bounced.

I think it was Ivanna who bounced all the way to remission. The phrase is they bounce until they don't.
 
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:eek: I never heard that it was possible to be in OTJ on Hills.. something new to learn everyday.
TY for the explanation and best of luck to you and Babu - his numbers are gorgeous!:cool:
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I guess the fact that in particular a/d is 12% I think is one of the lowest carbs food they have has to do something about it and also that I only used it to stir the cycle a little not as his main food and stopped giving it to him as soon as he stopped getting insulin
 
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