Hyperthyroidism advice/information needed

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Vicki

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Greetings!
I was on this awesome board two years ago with my cat, Elizabeth (now age 17), who at that time was diagnosed with diabetes. Because of the excellent guidance and advice I found here, Elizabeth went into quick remission (3 months time), and has remained OTJ with normal glucose levels.
Because I suspected she was hyperthyroid, (weight loss, restlessness, some hair loss) I had lab work done yesterday and her lab came back with 8, so yes she is. All her other labs were normal, and she is in otherwise excellent health.
I will be speaking further to my vet and doing research, however would greatly appreciate any information or advice anyone here might have. Thank you!!! Vicki and Liz
 
Hi Vicki!
I'm the opposite as far as the site & diagnosis goes. My oldest kitty came down with hyperthyroidism several years ago. She was skittish anyway, and older (set in her ways). When discussing treatment options with one of the vets at my regular vet office she said, "You can go with the cure which is really expensive, or you can go with a daily pill to manage the condition" the first words out of my mouth were, "She's very skittish, I'm not sure I can pill her consistently." The vet stared me down and said, "if you don't get these pills in her she will die, you will kill your cat a slow, painful death."
So we tried the pills, but I made sure I was never scheduled with that doc again. We upped the pills and she was on 2 doses daily. I was able to pill her consistently, despite my initial concerns. Finally, I had a second encounter of rudeness with the office new staff they had hired. I found one of the techs we loved and found out she had moved to another vet, so we changed all our animal's care over. Thank goodness we did! When I brought my thyroid kitty in for follow up testing to see if the 2x a day dosing got her levels under control my new vet began spouting common sense... She said, "why are you pilling this cat instead of choosing the cure?" I replied, "I was told it's really expensive, and my kitty is really old." (She was 17 at the time.) The vet looked me dead in the eye and said, "the cure costs the same amount as you would pay in one year just for the pills." She went on to say, "She's sent kitties older than 17 for the cure, because if they live one year, the procedure has paid for itself, plus you don't have to pill or pay for blood work monitoring all the time." So we said, "we've already paid for a years worth of pills and she's not any better, we're just poorer. What do we need to do to get the cure?" (The cure is radioactive iodine flushed through which kills the thyroid from my limited understanding.)
My new wonderful vet forwarded my kitty's file to the Cat Thyroid Center in Florida. They accepted her and we scheduled an appointment for this procedure that was the same amount we had paid for her in the last year without results.
This place was the luxury spot, and I was getting my money's worth, lol. There were cat chaise lounges, she got her own private menu with the only restriction of lizards mice or insects - anything else they would feed her. The recuperating cages were set up across from a bird cage (real live bird in there) and a giant fish tank. I was afraid my kitty was never going to want to come home. The doc took photos of her (and of her and the staff holding her) during her stay, printed them and mailed them to me.
She had to stay overnight, but her radioactive levels were low enough the next day I could bring her home - and she was cured.
Funny enough I brought home a different cat... This one was less skittish, began gaining weight, and behaving like a real cat.
She's 21 this year and doing great. We tease that she's immortal from her gamma rays she's received. Last year she came downstairs into the common areas while we had a male guest in the house. She has never before been so brave. If there was a male voice, she wasn't even visible in her normal spots, she was hiding.
My only regret was not getting her the cure sooner... She could have been happier and healthier for more of her life. Instead we wasted that year playing with pill doses, listening to a harsh and cruel and terribly misinformed vet.

If you have other questions I can answer, please ask! I love talking about my cured, healthy, old, immortal cat! (Her name is Runswith.)

I'm new to the diabetic forum though. A different cat (Fabalous, my 2nd oldest at 14) was just diagnosed with diabetes yesterday.
 
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Lovely story but I think it needs some correction as somebody reading it might get confused! But of course correct me if I'm wrong.
I think your kitty got diagnosed with hyperthyroidism not hypothyroidism (hypothyroidism is very rare in cats) so the same as Vicki's cat Elizabeth. Radioactive iodine treatment is used to shut the thyroid gland and that stops throwing up excess thyroid hormones which are very damaging for the heart. In people receiving this treatment one can become hypothyroid (under active) and will need to receive thyroxine which is thyroid hormone. I'm not sure if that's a concern with cats so it is a good idea to discuss that with your vet but I suspect that they will monitor your kitty for thyroxine levels and give her meds if needed. So as much as we want to believe vets that there is a cure it is not that simple. But they can manage disease very well with treatments and make the kitty well and happy.
Sorry to hear about Fabalous' diabetes diagnosis.
Wishing you good luck with the treatment plan.
Sending hugs
Marlena and Rocky (the cat):bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Hi Marlena
Thanks for catching that!
Yes. Runswith was hyperthyroid.
Then blasted with radioactive iodine, now cured.
(I'll go back and edit above as well! Thanks again!)
 
Thank y'all so much for the information and the wonderfully successful story about Runswith. I have discussed the situation a bit more with my vet and found two places in Louisiana -a two hour drive from me that do the radioidodine therapy - one a private vet and the other the LSU Veterinary School. I don't know if they will have live birds and a fish tank like your Florida clinic - that is cat paradise! :cat:
I am filled with the same apprehension I experienced when Elizabeth was diagnosed with diabetes. :nailbiting:
This board is a Godsend for diabetes, so AlphaCat, I assure you that Fabalous is in the best of hands. I'll be back with updates and probably more questions.
 
I look forward to the updates! Good luck to both you and Elizabeth! I hope the outcome is as great as my Runswith!
 
I will be speaking further to my vet and doing research, however would greatly appreciate any information or advice anyone here might have. Thank you!!! Vicki and Liz

I had started looking into radioiodine treatment when my cat was diagnosed, until he was diagnosed with acromegaly a week or two later. Since then, he's been on 2.5 mg methimazole twice a day (half of a 5 mg pill). It's supposed to bring the thyroid hormone levels to normal ranges in 2-3 weeks. Chino's not an easy cat to pill, but I get the capsule-sized grain-free duck and pea Pill Pockets and 1 piece is enough to cover 12 half-pills. 3 months later, he still hasn't figured out that there's a pill inside :)
 
Hi Vicki!
I'm the opposite as far as the site & diagnosis goes. My oldest kitty came down with hyperthyroidism several years ago. She was skittish anyway, and older (set in her ways). When discussing treatment options with one of the vets at my regular vet office she said, "You can go with the cure which is really expensive, or you can go with a daily pill to manage the condition" the first words out of my mouth were, "She's very skittish, I'm not sure I can pill her consistently." The vet stared me down and said, "if you don't get these pills in her she will die, you will kill your cat a slow, painful death."
So we tried the pills, but I made sure I was never scheduled with that doc again. We upped the pills and she was on 2 doses daily. I was able to pill her consistently, despite my initial concerns. Finally, I had a second encounter of rudeness with the office new staff they had hired. I found one of the techs we loved and found out she had moved to another vet, so we changed all our animal's care over. Thank goodness we did! When I brought my thyroid kitty in for follow up testing to see if the 2x a day dosing got her levels under control my new vet began spouting common sense... She said, "why are you pilling this cat instead of choosing the cure?" I replied, "I was told it's really expensive, and my kitty is really old." (She was 17 at the time.) The vet looked me dead in the eye and said, "the cure costs the same amount as you would pay in one year just for the pills." She went on to say, "She's sent kitties older than 17 for the cure, because if they live one year, the procedure has paid for itself, plus you don't have to pill or pay for blood work monitoring all the time." So we said, "we've already paid for a years worth of pills and she's not any better, we're just poorer. What do we need to do to get the cure?" (The cure is radioactive iodine flushed through which kills the thyroid from my limited understanding.)
My new wonderful vet forwarded my kitty's file to the Cat Thyroid Center in Florida. They accepted her and we scheduled an appointment for this procedure that was the same amount we had paid for her in the last year without results.
This place was the luxury spot, and I was getting my money's worth, lol. There were cat chaise lounges, she got her own private menu with the only restriction of lizards mice or insects - anything else they would feed her. The recuperating cages were set up across from a bird cage (real live bird in there) and a giant fish tank. I was afraid my kitty was never going to want to come home. The doc took photos of her (and of her and the staff holding her) during her stay, printed them and mailed them to me.
She had to stay overnight, but her radioactive levels were low enough the next day I could bring her home - and she was cured.
Funny enough I brought home a different cat... This one was less skittish, began gaining weight, and behaving like a real cat.
She's 21 this year and doing great. We tease that she's immortal from her gamma rays she's received. Last year she came downstairs into the common areas while we had a male guest in the house. She has never before been so brave. If there was a male voice, she wasn't even visible in her normal spots, she was hiding.
My only regret was not getting her the cure sooner... She could have been happier and healthier for more of her life. Instead we wasted that year playing with pill doses, listening to a harsh and cruel and terribly misinformed vet.

If you have other questions I can answer, please ask! I love talking about my cured, healthy, old, immortal cat! (Her name is Runswith.)

I'm new to the diabetic forum though. A different cat (Fabalous, my 2nd oldest at 14) was just diagnosed with diabetes yesterday.

I'm so happy for your furbaby! My civvie, Sweetie was dx'd w hyperthyroidism this year when my boy was re-dx'd with diabetes. I had inquired throughout her initial testing if she was a candidate for that procedure, but they told me it was off the table for her. She's 15 years old and taking 5 mg 2x /day of the meds without any issues. I was told it was because she IS older by 2 vets. Hmmmm. In any case, she is doing much better now.

gina
 
I'm so happy for your furbaby! My civvie, Sweetie was dx'd w hyperthyroidism this year when my boy was re-dx'd with diabetes. I had inquired throughout her initial testing if she was a candidate for that procedure, but they told me it was off the table for her. She's 15 years old and taking 5 mg 2x /day of the meds without any issues. I was told it was because she IS older by 2 vets. Hmmmm. In any case, she is doing much better now.

gina

I see you're in GA... perhaps it might be worth an 8 hour drive and a couple days in Florida?
Mine was on the same dose, without stabilizing. (But my FL vet would have sent me even if she was stabile, just for the cost/aggravation factors alone.) The place I went to is called The Cat Thyroid center in Ruskin FL if you care to Google their info. They have a regular vet office in the same building (but separated due to the iodine use). The vet there could likely review your records and refer quickly if you explain you're coming out of town for this... If they can't, I know my vet will and I can message you her details. She's about an hours drive away from the Thyroid center, but she's the best vet I've ever been to. We've since moved up to VA, and when our vet up here couldn't help our dog with a nasal problem, I drove down the 14 hours to see her. Crazy... but when you find the good ones, it's hard to give them up.
Maybe before you make travel plans (potentially) call any of the thyroid centers in your area. See if they have a vet office attached or the thyroid vet also practices as a regular vet. Then get an appointment with him/her. (Or if they don't have a regular vet practice, see who their main referring vet's are, then make an appt with that vet.)

My old cat is living the best years of her life because of the radioactive iodine treatment. Seriously, the first 15 years she was a completely different cat. Scared, skittish, nervous, and now there's no stopping her. She has claimed a spot on a couch, she eats her dinner above all the others on her own chair, she comes out in common areas just to cuddle, and even comes to visit guests. It really is night and day and I am so thankful I didn't take no for an answer with the first mean vet I had.

Do let me know if you want my Florida vet info.

Oh my goodness... I'm not used to the lingo yet... GA doesn't mean Georgia, I'm so sorry for my mistake!
 
Oh my goodness @geenaroses - you're in Tampa!!! I can totally hook you up with the best vet that ever lived if you're willing to drive to Zephyrhills!
And she will give you the referral (provided there's not health reason preventing it... age does not matter to her!)
 
It's ok AlphaCat, I think most of us first thing Georgia or General Advice when we see GA lol. It means Guardian Angel or Gone Ahead for kitties that have crossed the Rainbow bridge :)
 
Hiya! I just happened to see this. I have a 17 year old civvie with hypothyroidism. He had hyperthyroidism. He was taking pills for a year (or was it two?) plus amlodipine because the hyper-t caused high blood pressure. I decided to do the i131 and Tanner did become hypOt, but at least the tumor is gone and he no longer needs the amlodipine. He has been taking Armour pills for the last 2-3 years. It has flown by so I can't remember the timeline. I highly recommend i131 to anyone who can afford it. I've heard of 19 year old cats having the procedure done. :) If anyone want to join a group for this, I can give you the link!
 
Hiya! I just happened to see this. I have a 17 year old civvie with hypothyroidism. He had hyperthyroidism. He was taking pills for a year (or was it two?) plus amlodipine because the hyper-t caused high blood pressure. I decided to do the i131 and Tanner did become hypOt, but at least the tumor is gone and he no longer needs the amlodipine. He has been taking Armour pills for the last 2-3 years. It has flown by so I can't remember the timeline. I highly recommend i131 to anyone who can afford it. I've heard of 19 year old cats having the procedure done. :) If anyone want to join a group for this, I can give you the link!

Is it the yahoo group?

gina
 
My soul kitty had hyperthyroidism. Her "pills" were compounded into a gel to apply to her ear daily. Is this the same meds I wonder?
 
My soul kitty had hyperthyroidism. Her "pills" were compounded into a gel to apply to her ear daily. Is this the same meds I wonder?
Yes, you can either give orally with pills or transdermally, i.e. gel onto the ear. The medicine is called methimazole.
 
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