Aurora AMBG 98 PMBG +2 98

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Nicole Z

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Eliminating the dry has made a significant difference in her numbers! I will continue to check her BG in the AM and PM for another week - provided the numbers are steady - how often would I spot check her?
 
Remarkable! I would continue the AM and PM and I would get +3's so that you know that after she eats her pancreas is working to keep her under 120.

How long has she been off the dry food?

I just read yesterday's thread and if it were me, I would do my own curves because at the vet she is super stressed and the numbers are inflated. And you are using a human meter and they are using a pet meter and the values will be different. As long as you she isn't been giving any insulin, I wouldn't worry about doing a curve.
 
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Remarkable! I would continue the AM and PM and I would get +3's so that you know that after she eats her pancreas is working to keep her under 120.

How long has she been off the dry food?

I just read yesterday's thread and if it were me, I would do my own curves because at the vet she is super stressed and the numbers are inflated. And you are using a human meter and they are using a pet meter and the values will be different. As long as you she isn't been giving any insulin, I wouldn't worry about doing a curve.
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She's been off the dry food since Tuesday of this week 5/2/17
 
It's nice to see that you got her off all that kitty crack (dry food). It is amazing how many kitties don't need insulin once they are off that stuff. I agree with Bobbie no insulin =no curve! Oh how I wish this would happen to all our FD babies:)
 
I want to back up a bit and make sure that you're taking your time and not jumping to conclusions. Taking a cat off of dry food can get your kitty into remission quickly. However, this isn't always the case. Up until the PM shot on 5/2 and this morning, Aurora's numbers have not been in a normal BG range (50 - 120 on a human meter). You may be seeing the last of the dry food leaving Aurora's system but you don't know that yet.

I would encourage you to do the following:
  • test at your usual AM and PM shot times
  • get at least one test each cycle in addition to the "pre-shot" times. You need to know where the numbers are somewhere around nadir time
  • feed a "snack" at around +8 or +9. If Aurora's pancreas is waking up, food will cause the pancreas to produce it's own insulin and, as a result, help to lower the numbers.
  • along the same lines, giving Aurora several small meals throughout the day will help to stabilize BG.
Right now, Aurora's spreadsheet does not look like a cat that's in remission. (I know you don't want to hear that.) A spreadsheet for a cat that's nearing remission is largely green. I'd rather you take your time and give Aurora's pancreas some support with a little bit of insulin so she has a strong remission when warranted.
 
I agree with Sienne. We want any remission to be a strong one. Giving even a tiny dose to give the pancreas some support as it heals can benefit in the long term. Shawna posted today on Davidson's three year OTJ anniversary. It you look at his spreadsheet, he went green and pretty much stayed there as she went down the dosing scale. His looks like a strong remission that I hope will hold.
 
I agree with Sienne, she makes some very good suggestions.

George has been in remission for just over a year if you take a look at his ss looking at the 2016 tab, you'll see how his numbers went all green and how I gradually reduced the dose continuing with minute amounts of insulin just to give his healing pancreas the best chance I could of making a strong recovery.

Coming off the dry has clearly made a big difference, but her numbers are for the most not falling in the normal 50-120 range (human meter)
 
Yep, I agree, the numbers for a cat in remission need to be under 120 and mostly in green numbers. It can take up to 72 hours for the carbs to completely exit the system which is now. ( last dry was 5.2.) So, if she isn't in numbers under 120 from this time forward, I would think about putting her on a micro dose. Get all AMBG and PMBG some +3's and nadir to see what is what. Today is looking promising.
 
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I have to jump on the bandwagon of giving her a little more time on a low dose of insulin. We find a lot of kitties come back from remission so giving a little more support to help those new and fragile beta cells is a good idea.
 
As of today it's been 3 days since Aurora had kibble so the carbs should be out of her system. Anxious to see what she does tomorrow! Will you be home to monitor if the consensus is to give her a tiny bit of insulin?
 
I'll be home Saturday and Sunday and also home Monday and Tuesday. Can we just wait and see what numbers she's going to pull tomorrow and Sunday before we decide about a micro dose? Also, how much is a micro dose? I can't imaging measuring even a 1/2 unit let alone anything smaller, seems like it would be just a tiny drop?
 
Nicole Z said:
I'll be home Saturday and Sunday and also home Monday and Tuesday. Can we just wait and see what numbers she's going to pull tomorrow and Sunday before we decide about a micro dose? Also, how much is a micro dose? I can't imaging measuring even a 1/2 unit let alone anything smaller, seems like it would be just a tiny drop?
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Wonderful that you'll be home for a few days. I would be inclined to give it through tomorrow night with numbers under 120. Others might feel differently but that's what I would do, especially since the dry just stopped 3 days ago and with numbers like today.

I'm not sure what the micro dose would be if you need to start. Some of the veteran members can help you with that.

ETA: when was her last dose of insulin and how many units did you give?
 
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