? Bounce 178@+6, 211@+9, 243 PMPS

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Tanya and Ducia said:
If you have any gravy containing MC/HC food then open the can, return the top on to hold the food inside and hold your fingers on the top, turn the opened can with the top on upside down and let the gravy (only gravy) to trickle out in to a spoon or a plate.
Give this to Gizzy.
You can also pour the gravy itself on his reg food.
Keep posting so someone experienced comes along.
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Tanya, you're experienced. ;)
 
29 minutes since that last 46. About time for the next test results?

And Steph, when you have a moment, could you change the subject line to reflect his latest numbers, so we know he's no longer at 40 (I hope). And take off the 911, as you have plenty of eyes on you now.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
29 minutes since that last 46. About time for the next test results?

And Steph, when you have a moment, could you change the subject line to reflect his latest numbers, so we know he's no longer at 40 (I hope). And take off the 911, as you have plenty of eyes on you now.
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Yes, I'll update the the title. Thanks
 
A couple more tsps gravy is a good idea. And test again in 30. If you really want him up, maybe add a drop of karo, honey, or syrup.

Experienced people will shoot a 53, I shot as low as 51. But Neko was on Levemir and shot time was often her nadir so I knew I had a long ways until onset.
 
StephF said:
Yes, I'll update the the title. Thanks
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You forgot to put Gizzy's name in the title!!!

Inch by inch he's getting up there. Keep on truckin', Gizzy! Nadirs are not at a fixed time, so keep vigilant. You are gathering good data today. Be sure to keep notes on what you gave him, when. It will be of help to you if you are in a similar situation in the future.
 
Steph, good work so far - HUGS!! Something to add to your 'I learned today...' - while hard food will raise the bg, it has to begin rehydrating before it raises it. You already know that it then keeps it high for quite some time. Karo and gravy/wet stuff normally begins that process almost immediately....

You got this! ...and lots of good eyes helping you too! I'll back out, sending another hug,
 
If you normally feed him at +6, yes, I think you might give him something, but, as Wendy says, you don't want to fill him up. Maybe just a spoonful of his usual food, with a drop or two of Karo in it. How much food have you been giving today along with the Karo? Or are you giving the Karo "straight"?
 
StephF said:
Can you explain why he shouldn't have actual food as opposed to gravy/karo?
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gravy raises the bg fast without filling him up. if the numbers continue to drop but he's not hungry it will be harder to get him to eat. if it's his normal eating time though, i'd say go ahead and feed him.
 
A quote from Marje who is helping another kitty who is low:
When you are handling low numbers and you see lower numbers early, like this, or numbers below 50, it's good to alternate food with gravy until she's safely up. A lot of the carbs are in gravy and the food will help stabilize numbers. By alternating, she doesn't get too full.
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But don't give him too much regular food that you fill him up. Try to give enough so that in combination with everything else he's gotten today, it equals his normal amount of food.
 
I need to go back through and read all the messages. I've been doing this between working on customers in my salon. I'll go back and make notes of everything I've done so I can see it more clearly. I gave him his 1/4 can of DM at +7.5. We're at 44 @ +8 so I'm giving a little gravy along with a tiny bit of high cal food.
 
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It's been another 1/2 hour. What food are you giving for gravy? I wonder if it's not high carb enough. Some cats aren't very carb sensitive and need a higher carb, such as something 20% or above.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
It's been another 1/2 hour. What food are you giving for gravy? I wonder if it's not high carb enough. Some cats aren't very carb sensitive and need a higher carb, such as something 20% or above.
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I know Uncle isn't. His "HC" is only 21% and when he's in the 40's at the beginning of a cycle I know I have to bump it up right away by adding honey to try to slow his roll. MAYBE Gizzy is the same..?
 
I couldn't test him at the last half hour. He was extremely grumpy. I'm going to test in about ten minutes. I'm using 9 lives because that's what hubby bought. I now have some Friskies to try. Just climbing out of shower. Be back in a few minutes. Cross fingers I don't lose a finger!
 
StephF said:
FYI, I'm using dark Karo, would that work the same as regular?
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I don't see why not. You can also use honey, maple syrup. Hoping he's high enough now that you can do any additional steering with food only, but keep it on hand.

Post the test as soon as you get it--- I'm a little worried about the grumpiness. Could just be irritation at getting poked so often, or he could be feeling out of sorts.
 
Finally!!!! Still not super-high, but my goodness, it's what, +9 now? Or is it +10? I'm a little confused with the timestamps and the spreadsheet-- you posted two hours ago regarding a +8 test of 44, I think.
 
When numbers are climbing up and into the 50's I usually wait an hour before the next test. I'm not sure in this case if that is a good idea for Gizzy.
Maybe someone more "seasoned" can weigh in.
 
Nan & Amber said:
Finally!!!! Still not super-high, but my goodness, it's what, +9 now? Or is it +10? I'm a little confused with the timestamps and the spreadsheet-- you posted two hours ago regarding a +8 test of 44, I think.
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We're at +10. I know it's not a great number but it's better!
 
StephF and Gizzy said:
Guess I'm sleeping on the couch tonight. :cat:
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Oh, maybe, maybe not! Eventually, he's going to come up, and maybe even bounce from this (though looking at his spreadsheet, he doesn't seem like the bounciest kitty in the world).

Tonight, assuming he's high enough to shoot, he's earned a reduction for sure!
 
I don't know about a definite cutoff, but I'd like to see him unambiguously rising. Greens are great, Gizzy, but you can explore around a bit and maybe go a little higher!

Let's see where he is at +11 and beyond.
 
StephF and Gizzy said:
Yay!!! What would you suggest as a cutoff for whether or not to shoot tonight?
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That's a tough one. Given the way this cycle has gone (so far), I would be inclined to skip tonight's shot. Gizzy needs rest and so do you. Consider that the 1.75U dose will still be "in control", even if you reduce tonight to 1.5U.
We don't generally like to skip doses, but sometimes it is necessary to drain the depot.
On the other hand, if Gizzy zooms up into a bounce by PMPS, it is probably safe to shoot the new, reduced 1.5U dose. But you would still have to watch him carefully.
Let's see where he is at +11.5 and if you get any other opinions.
 
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