4/3 Chino|AMPS=381|+4=213|+7=70|+7.5=57|+8=56|+8.5=52|+9=86|PMPS=295

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I'm expecting him to come down from a bounce tonight. If his BG drops throughout the day or if I see a flat pink cycle, I'll wait and see what happens tonight, then increase to 10.5 units tomorrow if we don't see green. But if his BG rises again throughout the day then I'll increase the dose tonight.
 
Looks like the threat of an increase is working :) He went from 381 to 213 in 4 hours. The next check will be at +7, in case he continues to drop at a rate of 168 mg/dL Q4H.
 
Don't I wish cats were that predictable on dropping! But I think there's a forecast of blues skies here soon. :cool:
 
AMPS = 381 (1st meal)
[10 units Lantus]
+4 = 213 (2nd meal)
+7 = 70 (3 heaping tsp LC 5%)

...and on the DAYTIME CYCLE!!! :D

I first got out the 12%, then reminded myself that 70 is still safe (and the real BG is higher - meaning we're actually farther from the danger zone than it looks). Just got on a 2-hr conference call, but I'll be sneaking away to test again in 30 minutes. I left the 12% can on the counter in case it's needed but I'm hoping it won't be!
 
Adrian and Chino said:
I first got out the 12%, then reminded myself that 70 is still safe (and the real BG is higher - meaning we're actually farther from the danger zone than it looks
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As a reminder the TR protocol was written with a human meter and under 50 is the reduction point regardless of what the "real bg" is on an AT meter. So while 70 is a safe number I'd at least give some LC and check again no more than 1 hour.

Since he was coming down quickly for future reference you may want to try feeding that curve a wee bit more but do realize it's difficult when working etc.
 
AMPS = 381 (1st meal)
[10 units Lantus]
+4 = 213 (2nd meal)
+7 = 70 (3 heaping tsp LC 5%)
+7.5 = 57 (3 tsp MC 12%, mostly gravy, and 3 Temptations treats)

In this situation, I probably should've started with 12%. But when I remind myself that 70 isn't really 70, I do it to keep myself from overreacting and bringing out the corn syrup and HC when they're not necessary.

He's not lethargic by any means, but he was quieter, looked almost tired, didn't whine for food while I was preparing it and didn't run as quickly into the kitchen as he normally does when I'm done testing. If his BG is the same or lower at next check, I'm opening the Karo.
 
AMPS = 381 (1st meal)
[10 units Lantus]
+4 = 213 (2nd meal)
+7 = 70 (3 heaping tsp LC 5%)
+7.5 = 57 (3 tsp MC 12%, mostly gravy, and 3 Temptations treats)
+8 = 56 (2 tsp MC 12% w/2 drops of Karo)
 
I think he's pushing for a reduction...

AMPS = 381 (1st meal)
[10 units Lantus]
+4 = 213 (2nd meal)
+7 = 70 (3 heaping tsp LC 5%)
+7.5 = 57 (3 tsp MC 12%, mostly gravy, and 3 Temptations treats)
+8 = 56 (2 tsp MC 12% w/2 drops of Karo)
+8.5 = 52 (3 tsp HC 20%, 3 Temptations treats)

If it's somehow even lower at +9, do I give him straight Karo? This is crazy...

Edited to add that he seems much more alert now, even though his BG is lower.
 
The last hour, he's been mostly the same number, within meter variance. Of course it's taken carbs to do it. If he goes below 50, what you give him depends on what you want him to do next. If you need to get him up higher to give yourself a break, then add a drop or two of karo. Otherwise just HC should be OK. The last test was the first time you brought out the HC.

Glad he's more alert now, maybe cause he's no longer dropping.
 
AMPS = 381 (1st meal)
[10 units Lantus]
+4 = 213 (2nd meal)
+7 = 70 (3 heaping tsp LC 5%)
+7.5 = 57 (3 tsp MC 12%, mostly gravy, and 3 Temptations treats)
+8 = 56 (2 tsp MC 12% w/2 drops of Karo)
+8.5 = 52 (3 tsp HC 20%, 3 Temptations treats)
+9 = 86 (treat: small pc freeze-dried chicken)

Safe to wait an hour for the next test?
 
I guess I brought this on myself by saying I was going to persuade him to break bounces during the day instead e_e.

It's been a long time since I've had to give him HC. What makes things even more complicated is that the "HC 18%" that I gave him on 3/24 when his BG went down to 47 wasn't actually 18%. I had labeled the cans with dry-matter values. When I went back through and relabeled based on calories from carbs, using Dr. Pierson's data, I had to relabel a 17% can as 13%, an 18% can as 13%, and a 23% can as 12%. So I'm not sure what's HC and what's MC anymore. The % of calories from carbs depends on how much fat there is, anyway.

To differentiate one 13% from another, I'm going to go back, calculate the grams of carbohydrate in each can, and relabel: kcal x 0.13 / 4 = X gm CHO. Then I can tell which truly is higher carb, despite the %. Examples:

FF Grilled Turkey Feast in Gravy - 13% kcal from carbs - 2.3 gm CHO/can
FF Sliced Chicken Hearts & Liver in Gravy - 12% kcal from carbs - 2.5 gm CHO/can
FF Sliced Turkey Feast in Gravy - 13% kcal from carbs - 2.6 gm CHO/can
FF Gravy Lovers Whitefish & Tuna - 16% kcal from carbs - 2.6 gm CHO/can
FF Grilled Chicken and Beef in Gravy - 15% kcal from carbs - 2.7 gm CHO/can
FF Sliced Beef Feast in Gravy - 14% kcal from carbs - 2.8 gm CHO/can
 
414 at +2. I was expecting that. I crushed a few freeze-dried treats at the bottom of his bowl and it actually kept him in once place long enough for me to give 1 unit of R.
 
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