Angel TR: PMPS 206; 68 at +2 1/2; 90 at +3. Advice, please?

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After waiting 10 cycles for Angel’s bounce to clear (and giving his ears a bit of a break with a little less testing), I went back up to .75 tonight. I’m having a lot of trouble accurately measuring lower doses such as .5 and .75 – in the beginning I thought I’d mastered the air bubble problem, but not really. At this point I THINK I gave Angel .75 (or less) three hours ago, but given how fast he’s fallen from 206 to 68 in +2.5 hrs am wondering if it was in fact a little over .75. However, just checked at +3 and he’s 90, thank goodness (wonder if that’s the tiny bit extra HC treat I gave him after the reading of 68). Any advice would be appreciated, esp. as to whether I should continue with the .75 tomorrow morning. Thank you. I'm now off to sleep, but will check L and L land in the morning.
 
I would have kept testing through the evening cycle to see where his numbers were going. With a fast drop like that at 2, this could be a very active cycle. That was smart of you to give him a little HC to slow the drop. Hopefully, you left some food out for him to eat while you sleep. I am guessing you have the syringes with the 1/2 unit marks on them. I started wearing reading glasses to measure the doses because they were so teeny. Lots of people use magnifiers and extra bright lights too. I eventually started using calipers to measure teeny doses as you get a more consistent dose using them than trying to use the marks on the syringe which vary a lot from one syringe to the next. Depending upon his AMPS test number (post if you're not sure), I would keep the 0.75 dose and try to get some mid cycle tests in today, and tonight if you can.
 
Hi Shefali, that drop at +2 could indicate an active cycle and the HC treat could have bumped him up and hopefully you did leave some food down because onset was just starting when you went to bed. I would have stayed up to see him through nadir to make sure he was safe.
 
I never went to bed until Max was steady without food and not dropping or coming up. I was too scared of a hypo. Maybe set an alarm and nap now the sofa next time so you can make sure he's safe.
 
Hi all! Thanks for the responses. As you will see from the notes, I did stay up till 2:30 AM to get a second reading and only slept after I saw it was 90 -- also the notes indicate that I did leave food out for free feeding as Angel is a grazer; the bedroom door was open as he often sleeps with me. I could not stay up beyond 2:30 as need to go to work this morning. I did wait till Angel was at 90 before sleeping, and his past cycles indicate he continues to climb after that (with food left out). I was not endangering him -- you'll notice his nadirs tend to be very early, at +3 or even earlier.

Re the syringe: maybe I need to get calipers (and learn to use them). I do use both specs and a good magnifier with a light, but that does not seem to help.
 
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I have found test syringed vary and sometimes by a lot depending on where the starting line is. Calipers help to avoid test issue. I was not good at eliminating bubbles so sometimes that made a difference until I got used to adjusting for that. Also meter variance from one test to the next can vary as high as 20% no matter which meter you use. So if one test is high and the other low it can be a pretty big difference especially if lantus has onset. Add to that some cats drop quickly and you can see even if your dosing is perfect there can be issues.
 
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I agree, hold the dose at 0.75 units. He's a long term diabetic and 0.5 units wasn't doing it for him.

I really like using calipers on the smaller doses.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
I think because he showed you the 68 last night, you should hold this dose.
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Hi Bobbie and Bubba, sadly I saw this only after I'd left yesterday (and another post above that was later edited to say I should keep the .75). I was a little freaked out as it sounded like folks were getting worried about Angel and didn't know what to do, so gave him .5 at night as returned really late. I was having trouble logging into FDMB as had tried to get rid of an older defunct profile which was causing confusion.

Wendy&Neko said:
I agree, hold the dose at 0.75 units. He's a long term diabetic and 0.5 units wasn't doing it for him.

I really like using calipers on the smaller doses.
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Thank you, Wendy&Neko. As you see, I did give him .5 both yesterday and today as I didn't know what to do.

@Bobbie And Bubba and @Wendy&Neko: Do you think I could go back to .75 this evening? It's the weekend so I can test more. Sorry if I've messed up by making changes :(. Is that a big problem, that I gave .5 last night and this morning? Also, I'm going to get calipers and learn to use them. I'm not feeling like I'm doing the tiny doses well. Saw Marje's very useful videos on calipers today.
 
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Wendy&Neko said:
Pretend it was a partial furshot at .5 units and go back to .75 units.
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OMG what a relief! Thank you, thank you! BTW, I notice Angel tends to peak at +3 -- is that unusually early? I'm going to do a +6 soon to test this theory. Also will check some other SS's.
 
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