+5 @ 57, possible 911?!

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Caitlin M

Caitlin M

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Hi, as many of you know, I've been giving Pita 2 units- skinny in am, fat in pm. I just got home, did a +5 and he's at 57. I'm staying calm, but should i just give him some of his normal wet food or give him some with the gravy? Please help ASAP!
 
From the spreadsheet, it looks like he may have one more hour to drop. Do you have high carb food/karo around just in case?
 
Djamila said:
From the spreadsheet, it looks like he may have one more hour to drop. Do you have high carb food/karo around just in case?
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I do. He's eating his normal FF Classic but I have both gravy flavors and Karo. Should I retest in about 10 minutes or wait a little longer?
 
I think you usually test at 20 minute intervals. Although if he just ate, you might give him a few extra minutes so the food has time to register. Is his behavior normal?
 
Djamila said:
I think you usually test at 20 minute intervals. Although if he just ate, you might give him a few extra minutes so the food has time to register. Is his behavior normal?
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Ok, I'll give it a bit til he's done eating. Yes, so far acting normally.
 
Isn't this whole thing just crazy? Last night Pita was pretty flat, tonight there's a big dive.
 
Right?!?! When Sam went into remission last time, he went from getting shots to OTJ in a week. If I hadn't been testing I could have killed him. I keep telling my vet he needs to be reading this site. He's a great guy, this just isn't his area of expertise.
 
HI Caitlin - word of advice, feed small amts of food if you need to steer the bg up. You don't want kitty to eat so much at once that they are no longer hungry, if you need to continue to feed to get that BG up!
 
MiCo said:
HI Caitlin - word of advice, feed small amts of food if you need to steer the bg up. You don't want kitty to eat so much at once that they are no longer hungry, if you need to continue to feed to get that BG up!
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Djamila said:
Right?!?! When Sam went into remission last time, he went from getting shots to OTJ in a week. If I hadn't been testing I could have killed him. I keep telling my vet he needs to be reading this site. He's a great guy, this just isn't his area of expertise.
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Ok, so I just tested and used 3 different strips. First was 54, second was 62, third was 56. Doesn't give me much faith when I only use one strip! Should I wait another 10 minutes and retest to see if I should feed again?
 
How far apart were his snack and that test? I think I read that it takes about 20 minutes for the food to hit them. How's this for the blind leading the blind tonight!?
 
Djamila said:
How far apart were his snack and that test? I think I read that it takes about 20 minutes for the food to hit them. How's this for the blind leading the blind tonight!?
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Lol well I appreciate it regardless! It was like 5 minutes after he finished. I'll wait another 15 to retest. How frustrating is that though with the strips?!
 
PS It seems like a good sign that he didn't dropping anymore between the +5 and the tests you just did.
 
Djamila said:
They're all pretty close numbers, so at least you know your meter is consistent!
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Agreed. These are all close #s. And if you are using a human meter, you don't need to be really concerned unless you get readings below 50. You are doing good. Test again in a few and report back. As long as #s continue to rise, that's good.
 
MiCo said:
Agreed. These are all close #s. And if you are using a human meter, you don't need to be really concerned unless you get readings below 50. You are doing good. Test again in a few and report back. As long as #s continue to rise, that's good.
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Thank you!
 
I will try to stay near, but probably will only be online for next hour. If you need back up, post to main forums. Also, I'm going to tag a few people who are online now-to keep an eye out on this thread... @Wendy&Neko
 
MiCo said:
'm going to tag a few people who are online now-to keep an eye out on this thread... @Wendy&Neko
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Sorry, I don't know Prozinc, so not much help. With Lantus and Levemir, we would feed a little wet food ( a couple tsp), and test again in 30 minutes with numbers in the 50's. It can take 20-30 minutes for the carbs to go from the plate to the blood stream.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Sorry, I don't know Prozinc, so not much help. With Lantus and Levemir, we would feed a little wet food ( a couple tsp), and test again in 30 minutes with numbers in the 50's. It can take 20-30 minutes for the carbs to go from the plate to the blood stream.
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That's ok, thank you! @JanetNJ do you know PZI very well? Don't remember what you use.
 
Are you at +6 now? If you can, I might get one more test just to be sure he's really rising since the +5 and +6 are so close.
 
Right? And then you get to brace yourself for what may possibly be a higher-than-normal AMPS from that steep drop.

Happy bouncing!

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Ok. I'm logging off soon. Here's the link from when my Cliff went low. Please note, I was using AlphaTRAK meter at the time, so #s/readings are a bit higher. There is good guidance in this thread. Of note: the food you gave might have artificially raised BG. You want to test in 30min and maybe an HR, and then again to make sure kitty is rising without food. Does that make sense?

Here you go! http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/cliff-low-bg-at-6.170145/#post-1850937

And pls post to main forum if kitty dips low again tonight and you need help. Take care!!
 
Caitlin M said:
That's ok, thank you! @JanetNJ do you know PZI very well? Don't remember what you use.
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Hi there. I never used pzi , only vetsulin, but there are some similarities. Looks like he hit his nadir fine and is surfing along with just that minor steering. Good job everyone.
 
JanetNJ said:
Hi there. I never used price, only vetsulin, but there are some similarities. Looks like he hit his nadir fine and is surfing along with just that minor steering. Good job everyone.
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Thank you. I'll be testing again for a +6.5 then a +7. If #'s are all good, I'll go to bed.
Djamila said:
Right? And then you get to brace yourself for what may possibly be a higher-than-normal AMPS from that steep drop.

Happy bouncing!
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Lol Djamila, I know! I'm already dreading a bounce. I'm wondering if tomorrow may not be the best day to do a curve, even though I'll be snowed in. Also already wondering about his am shot dose. Perhaps the skinny 2 again? It seems that his skinny 2's aren't going as low (I also don't have those #'s) but his fat 2's seem to give the greens. Hmm, dosing, dosing.....?
 
Sam only does mini-bounces (knock on wood), so I don't know a ton about them, but he's usually just high and flat after a low. I was told after his last green to do a slightly skinny regular dose if the PS is a normal to high number, reduce the dose if he's still low. By morning there should be more people around here to give better advice than I can though!

I can't wait to hear how much snow you get! Around here they forecast snow, but it almost never happens. I'll live vicariously though all of you!
 
Djamila said:
Sam only does mini-bounces (knock on wood), so I don't know a ton about them, but he's usually just high and flat after a low. I was told after his last green to do a slightly skinny regular dose if the PS is a normal to high number, reduce the dose if he's still low. By morning there should be more people around here to give better advice than I can though!

I can't wait to hear how much snow you get! Around here they forecast snow, but it almost never happens. I'll live vicariously though all of you!
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They already called all the schools by me off, so I'll be home shoveling tomorrow.
 
Just catching the excitement now. There'll probably be bouncing tomorrow so you can't base your dose on a likely inflated AMPS. The 57 you got is close to being too low on a human meter (50 is the "danger zone ahead" number) so that tells you that 2 u is near his best dose at this point in time. For comfort's sake you could drop to 1.8 u because he'll be more insulin sensitive from dropping low. Wait to see what he gives you tomorrow AM.
 
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Djamila said:
Sam only does mini-bounces (knock on wood), so I don't know a ton about them, but he's usually just high and flat after a low. I was told after his last green to do a slightly skinny regular dose if the PS is a normal to high number, reduce the dose if he's still low. By morning there should be more people around here to give better advice than I can though!

I can't wait to hear how much snow you get! Around here they forecast snow, but it almost never happens. I'll live vicariously though all of you!
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My only problem is that I get up at 4am to do his test and shot, so not a lot of people are up then either! I'm actually not usually awake right now. I go to bed around his +5, so it just so happened that I decided to test since I have no work! Oy.
 
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