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If I give my cat his injection after he has eaten but has not eaten all of the food can I leave it out for him to eat later? Or do I need to not give any food for a while? He eats like this where he eats half and then eats the other half later. He was requiring so much food before the insulin but now not so much so I haven't really adjusted his amount yet.
 
Smoky does that all the time. He eats some food before his shot and the rest later on. A fast acting insulin like vetsulin requires food be given before the shot.
 
I feed Smoky every four hours and use an automatic timed feeder, the Petsafe one. Are you able to test your cats blood sugar at home? There is a welcome forum for newbies where you can post an intro about yourself and your kitty. What is the name of your kitty? Check out the FAQ section and the info on using different types of insulin. There are different forums for each insulin. We are here to help out where we can and to let you know you are not alone in this.
 
Thank you, yes I did post a newbie thread. I will check the prozinc forum link. My kitty is Leo and was just recently diagnosed and started on insulin. He also has IBD so the food thing is a little more complicated to get right. Not yet testing at home as he just today came home from the hospital but will start as soon as he will let me touch his ear. Right now he is little po'd over all the fuss at the hospital. There seems to be differing opinions from the vets as how to feed when on insulin. Some of them say only feed twice a day but others say it's ok with few feedings a day. It's a little confusing.
 
Smoky has IBD too along with pancreatitis so I know how you feel. I have found with kitties with IBD it is better to give several smaller meals a day.
 
Most kitties do better on several smaller meals a day, rather than two large ones. It's a lot easier on their tummies, especially important if you have an IBD baby (I do, too).
 
There are two forums that explain feeding schedules: the TR, Tight Regulation and SLGS, Start Low, Go Slow. I don't know if you had a chance to read thru them yet
 
I haven't read through them yet but I will, and already know that my IBD Leo and now my IBD Diabetic Leo does much better on smaller more frequent meals. He will throw everything up if he eats too much at one time and does not do well at all if he has an empty stomach for too many hours. I was told that twice a day feedings will get a better regulation of glucose but it seems people here do a pretty good job of regulating their kitties on more feedings than twice a day. Any help with food that is ok for diabetic kitties who also have IBD would be appreciated. Medications used for diabetic kitties who also have IBD is tough too, especially when an anti inflammatory is needed but not recommended.
 
Lillie said:
I haven't read through them yet but I will, and already know that my IBD Leo and now my IBD Diabetic Leo does much better on smaller more frequent meals. He will throw everything up if he eats too much at one time and does not do well at all if he has an empty stomach for too many hours. I was told that twice a day feedings will get a better regulation of glucose but it seems people here do a pretty good job of regulating their kitties on more feedings than twice a day. Any help with food that is ok for diabetic kitties who also have IBD would be appreciated. Medications used for diabetic kitties who also have IBD is tough too, especially when an anti inflammatory is needed but not recommended.
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I don't know why some people believe that twice-a-day feedings bring about better regulation - it's just not true!
 
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There are two forums that explain feeding schedules: the TR, Tight Regulation and SLGS, Start Low, Go Slow. I don't know if you had a chance to read thru them yet
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if she's using ProZinc, the Lantus forums would probably just confuse her more

Most of us do feed multiple times a day @Lillie ....it helps to keep their glucose more stable

Most vets can't agree on how to treat any diabetic cat, so it's not unusual for them to disagree on feeding schedules.....One of the strengths of this message board is that the people here have tried everything and have real life experience in what works and what doesn't

A vet might see a handful of sugarcats in their career....the people here deal with them day in and day out, 24/7/365
 
Yes forums like this with people who have a lot of experience taking care of these cats and who have done this a very long time do have a better grasp on treating. I think the theory about twice a day feeding was that food will increase the glucose levels so it will fluctuate more if fed more often when giving insulin.?? I was going to feed smaller meals more frequently anyway because it made more sense to me with Leo's IBD.
 
Smoky needs a lot of smaller meals with his IBD as well. I may have to find a pet sitter to come to the house when I go on vacation this year. The regular place I take him to can't feed him every 4 hours plus he has meds to take for the IBD.
 
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I use prozinc with Smoky and follow the SLGS protocols. I didn't know that was for lantus users only?o_O
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It's a good basic approach that works with any insulin - ie., starting at a low dose and raising it slowly in small fraction increments. The Lantus version goes further in specifying how many days to stay at a dose, when to do a curve, and what number on a human meter is a sign that a reduction is in order. More formalized, that's all ...
 
I'm getting ready to give smoky his shot, thinking 1.5 units is good for tonight.
I'm doing a curve on Monday so will see where he is at then with mid day numbers
 
Lisa- Can I ask what meds you give Smokey for his IBD? Leo's specialist does not want to give him any steroids at all due now to his diabetes and also due to him being on a blood thinner. There isn't much left for IBD except acute meds for vomiting, diarrhea etc. Right now I have to get by with pepcid and diet. Sometimes flagyl.
 
My vet recommended giving Smoky chlorambucil which is a drug used for chemotherapy. I opted not to do that as it can suppress bone marrow and would require monthly blood work.
 
The cat specialist I took Smoky too suggested budesonide which I think is a newer steroid instead of prednisone.
I do have to work with a sliding scale type of dosing since the budesonide does raise his blood sugar somewhat. Have you checked out the website Ibdkitties.net?
 
Yes, I have gone through all the info on IBD mainly because my last kitty ended up with intestinal lymphoma after having IBD. She was on the chlorambucil for several months until she developed an intolerance to it and then came out of remission and, well she had to go to the Rainbow Bridge. I've had two cats in a row now with IBD and now diabetes. I wonder if I will ever get a break with all this. It's hard taking care of cats with a chronic illness. I worry so much about them.
 
I worry about lymphoma with Smoky too.
I understand what you mean about chronic illnesses. Smoky has urinary issues and had to have major surgery for a blockage which almost killed him. He also has indoor/ outdoor allergies as well as food allergies which really affects his IBD. On top of that he has triaditis which I think is a combination of pancreatitis and IBD.
 
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