1/7 Boomer AMPS 88 +3 106 PMPS 110 +3 95

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Judy and Boomer

Judy and Boomer

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Yesterday: Finally a day of green
Good morning!
AMPS 88 :D:D shooting .25u

Boomer ate all of his foods last night. The treat from the "empty" dish was also gone although he could have eaten it much later.
And of course my internal alarm clock woke me up at 2:00 last night. I noticed Boomer had left the bench where he sleeps for the first 3 hours each night. A few minutes later I heard him crying....not at the bedroom door but out further into the house. Normally if its a hunger issue he will cry at the bedroom door. But since he was lower last night at +3 I got up to check. He had eaten all but one small forkful which I fed to him then went btb. He followed me and slept with me for the next 3 hours until his +9 opened. I was awake most of that time :rolleyes::blackeye:

The newborn session yesterday went really well... despite the baby being 10 days old he slept for mostly all of the session with just the occasional cuddle by mom. It went a lot better than what I thought it would; babies over 8 days old are notorious for being wide awake for 2/3 of the session time.:banghead:

Today on this Bean's agenda: I need to edit the "sneak peek" from yesterday's session. Then, if Boomer gives us permission at his +3 test, a ride (no walk, too darn cold here) to my favourite birding park as a fellow photographer/birder told me where and when to find 4 Bald Eagles that are hanging out there. Then a trip downtown to the boutique that has been selling my art for the last 6 months since I'm pulling my items out of the store. Then home to tidy/wash props from yesterday/edit.....all that kind of fun:rolleyes:
 
Good luck tracking down the Bald Eagles! ...and it is way too cold to be outside here too. And my dogs are starting to bounce off the walls with pent-up energy.
 
Thinking back to this morning, I thought he might be a bit higher due to the 63 at +3 last night. So perhaps the high number didn't show up until +3 today. At any rate, he is back to green now +3 99 :D
No bald eagles to be found. My photographer/birder friend had told me they seemed to be there around 10:00 each morning. It's difficult for us to get there that early because I generally don't go anywhere until Boomer's +3 test at 11:00. But perhaps we'll have to head out early one day when Boomer is giving us his permission at AMPS.
 
I'm wondering whether that +3 was a bit of a food spike. I'd also keep in mind that not every cycle is going to be exactly the same. You might want to consider getting some random tests in. If you always test at the same times, you never know what you're missing.
 
Sienne and Gabby (GA) said:
I'm wondering whether that +3 was a bit of a food spike. I'd also keep in mind that not every cycle is going to be exactly the same. You might want to consider getting some random tests in. If you always test at the same times, you never know what you're missing.
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Yes, absolutely true!
Generally, his food spike is around 2 hours after food and he eats every 3 hours. So:
AMPS/food 8:00
food spike 9:00 to 10:00
food 11:00
food spike 12:00 to 1:00
food 2:00
food spike 3:00 to 4:00
food 5:00
food spike 6:00 to 7:00
PMPS/food 8:00

So I usually only test at food time because testing at any other time tends to give me a higher number due to food. It's true I don't have much data from 2:00 to 8:00; unless he has low numbers earlier in the day I try to give his poor ear a break.
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I think testing at different times through the cycle would be a good idea too. Not sure if you saw this that I posted on your thread yesterday but it made me go hmmmmm See below:
I did see it, took a quick look and meant to go back later in the day and forgot so thanks for the link again!

Hey Judy, check out this thread from Asrael and Trouble from yesterday. Made me go hmmmmm

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...5-otj-trial-day-5-update.170812/#post-1862812
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Bobbie And Bubba said:
I think testing at different times through the cycle would be a good idea too. Not sure if you saw this that I posted on your thread yesterday but it made me go hmmmmm See below:


Hey Judy, check out this thread from Asrael and Trouble from yesterday. Made me go hmmmmm

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...5-otj-trial-day-5-update.170812/#post-1862812
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Hmmmm. Yes Boomer has had some reverse curves although not on a consistent basis. And it seems to happen more at night. I wonder what causes it? I'm going to tag @Marje and Gracie.....Marje would you be able to explain why a reverse curve may happen if kitty is on small amounts of insulin?
 
It's an inverted curve and it can happen if the dose is too high or too low. We don't usually worry too much about an inverted curve if the cat is on more than just a small dose.

If kitty is on a small dose and has an occasional inverted curve, I wouldn't worry too much. But if you see it every cycle, it's time to address it.

If kitty is on a low dose and you are seeing a lot of inverted curves, it's because there is too much insulin and so it can make it look a bit like the cat is bouncing off insulin it doesn't need.

We are traveling and so I'm trying to post from phone. I'll come back tonight when we are out of the car and provide more info.
 
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Come on Boomer... the greens just look so great on you time to get back to them... sorry he is stressing you Judy... this dance is never easy no matter the dose high or low... we just want our kitties to feel better :bighug::bighug:
 
I think when Gussie was at his lowest dose there was a discussion along those lines looking at if he was showing inverted curves or not..and it had to do with whether or not he was ready for the trial despite his penchant for squinty blue preshot numbers and low numbers elsewhere in his cycle..I think we went with the too much insulin mimicking bouncing and started his trial...
Hugs Judy, it's so frustrating!:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
It does look to me like he's had a few inverted curves which can actually be a little on the flat side. You might not see a big jump up. I'd see how he does the next few cycles.
 
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An inverted curve can be too much OR too little insulin. However, when we get down to the small doses like Boomer is on, it's likely too much insulin if the kitty is doing it every single cycle.

If he's showing an inverted curve just every once in a while, I wouldn't worry.

Also, I was just saying that a lot of times, an inverted curve may look fairly flat. You might not see a big change in the BG.
 
At a low dose, by fairly flat, I mean you aren't seeing a big swing. For example using Lantus, you might see an 80 at AMPS, 100 @+3, 78 @+6. You won't generally see 80 at AMPS, 180 at +3, 100 @ +6. It's a flatter curve.

You can read more here.
 
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